The Russia - Ukraine Conflict
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Grand Conde
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Russia is doing ALOT worse than I anticipated as someone who has family members that fought alongside Soviets in Angola and Ethiopia who told me they were savages, but I feel like the talk of them being done done is a bit over exaggerated. Ukraine has had 8 years to prepare for this fight, and theyre getting state of the art anti air and anti tank weapons from the US and UK, and theyre still getting washed in the South and East, all of their sea ports taken so now only a land corridor from Poland could get their weapons in. Russia is stumbling but I feel like this is the Mayweather/Mosley fight... Ukraine almost knocked them the fukk out unexpectedly but unless NATO gets involved directly the Putin regime is gonna fall back and run up the points. And again, these Turkish drones are making ALL the difference them shyts are LETHAL but if the Russians get supplied by the Chinese under the table with some of their drones
They havent brought that airpower to bear for two reasons 1) to not provoke NATO too much and 2) trying to limit Ukraine casualties to win the people but number 2 is out the window already cause they went straight war crimes mode last week
Expect Chinese drones to not fall apart in 5 seconds brehs.
Grand Conde
Superstar
"Neutral" "objective" and yet his tweets are all him running Putinist interference.
sportscribe
Superstar
That'a not the full picture.
Russian objective is to asborb parts of Ukraine up to the port of Odesa thereby rendering Ukraine landlocked. They would take over Kyiv and likely install a pro-Russian government there. The neo-Nazi paramilitary wing of the Ukrainian military to be wiped out and the country of Ukraine demilitarized.
And the USA sent soldiers across the world. Russia can't even invade their neighbors
telegraph.co.uk
We cannot go on like this. The West must end its dependence on Vladimir Putin
Boris Johnson 14 March 2022 • 9:53pm
6-8 minutes
When Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine the first time round, in 2014, the West made a terrible mistake. The Russian leader had committed an act of violent aggression and taken a huge chunk out of a sovereign country – and we let him get away with it.
We decided we could somehow go back to normality. Economic relations did not just resume – they intensified, with the West taking more Russian gas than ever before, becoming more dependent on the goodwill of Putin and more exposed to the vagaries of the global gas and oil price.
And so when he finally came to launch his vicious war in Ukraine, he knew the world would find it very hard to punish him. He knew that he had created an addiction.
That is why he feels able to bomb maternity hospitals. That is why he is emboldened enough to launch indiscriminate assaults on fleeing families. And as his bombs fall, the cost of oil and gas rises still further, meaning less money in your pocket and more in Putin’s.
We cannot go on like this. The world cannot be subject to this continuous blackmail. As long as the West is economically dependent on Putin, he will do all he can to exploit that dependence. And that is why that dependence must – and will – now end.
Putin’s strength – his vast resource of hydrocarbons – is also his weakness. He has virtually nothing else. Putin’s Russia makes little that the rest of the world wants to buy. If the world can end its dependence on Russian oil and gas, we can starve him of cash, destroy his strategy and cut him down to size.
The United States has already announced a ban on imports of Russian oil. The UK will be doing the same. The EU has agreed to rid itself of Russian hydrocarbons as soon as possible. And we will do all we can to work with them, and indeed all friends of freedom looking at making similar moves, to help ease that transition for us all.
Because this strategy will not truly work unless everyone does it. The only way to force Putin to cease his aggression, and to respect international law, is for the world to stop mainlining Russian hydrocarbons – and we have to accept that such a move will be painful.
The Government is doing all we can to help – spending billions of pounds to ease the cost of living and cut hundreds off your household bills. But none of us can afford to carry on like this for long.
Green energy at heart of our strategy
We need permanently to reduce the cost of energy at source - and that will only happen if our supply is more secure, more sustainable and less vulnerable to manipulation by others.
We need to take back control. Later this month, I will set out a British Energy Security Strategy - how the UK will become more self-sufficient and no longer at the mercy of bullies like Putin.
At the heart of the strategy is green energy of all kinds.
Green electricity isn’t just better for the environment, it’s better for your bank balance. A kilowatt from a North Sea wind turbine costs less than one produced by a power station running on gas shipped to the UK from overseas. And if a quarter of our power wasn’t already coming from renewables, your bills today would be even higher than they already are.
Renewables are the quickest and cheapest route to greater energy independence. They are invulnerable to Putin’s manipulations. He may have his hand on the taps for oil and gas. But there is nothing he can do to stop the North Sea wind.
That’s why our ambition to go for net zero is not the problem. Renewable power – which is getting more efficient the whole time - is a crucial part of the solution. We are going to double down on new wind power and greatly accelerate the rollout of new offshore farms.
We will do more to exploit the potential of solar power. Even in this country, solar power is remarkably cheap and effective. We will modernise our grid and our distribution networks.
Time for big new bets on nuclear
We will exploit the potential of all renewable energy technologies in this country, from tidal power to hydro to geothermal. But we also need baseload energy – power that can be relied upon even when the sun isn’t shining or the wind isn’t blowing.
So now is the time to make a series of big new bets on nuclear power. The 1997, the Labour manifesto said there was “no economic case” for more nuclear – even though nuclear is in fact safe, clean and reliable.
It is time to reverse that historic mistake, with a strategy that includes small modular reactors as well as the larger power stations. It was the UK that first split the atom. It was the UK that had the world’s first civilian nuclear power plant. It is time we recovered our lead.
In the years ahead, green technology will enable us to continue our extraordinary progress in reducing carbon emissions. We have switched away from coal-fired power stations and we are switching to electric vehicles.
In fact, the UK has already cut CO2 emissions further and faster than any other G7 country. We will continue to do so – but at the same time, we will of course continue to use oil and gas as we make the transition.
It is crazy that we are importing oil and gas from Putin’s Russia when we have our own resources in the North Sea. It is time to give investors more confidence in British hydrocarbons. That way, we will have more domestic energy resilience as we make the transition to a zero carbon future.
And we will need hydrocarbons to make hydrogen – the low carbon fuel that has perhaps the greatest potential of all.
I don’t doubt that there will be tough times ahead. The process of weaning the world off Russian oil and gas, and hydrocarbons in general, will be difficult.
But it can be done.
We can further boost the use of low carbon energy, continuing to lead the world in the race to net zero.
We can cut the crippling bills being inflicted on homes and businesses across the country.
And we end the bullying from the Kremlin.
From the destruction of Aleppo, to the deadly use of Novichok on the streets of Salisbury, to the barbarism we are currently witnessing in Ukraine, Putin has been able to get away with too much for too long because he has encouraged and exploited a Western addiction to his oil and gas.
That addiction must now end – and the winners will be British consumers, the natural environment and the cause of freedom itself.
Also Remember when some poster on here said russians would have the city by day 3
Probably the same dude who said Kyiv was surrounded a week and a half ago and hasn’t been online since
Aintnobodystupid
All Star
Lol stupid ass good ol boy thought he was gonna waltz in and clap up some ruskis, be treated like a hero in ukraine and come home to america unscathed.
Instead his whole unit got obliterated, and when he rightfully reneged being sent as canon fodder to the capital without guns or any type support, the "good guys" threatened to kill his ass and were about to take his passport and rip it up and send him right back to the frontlines
This! What the fukk did he expect? Airconditioned, Xbox equipped FOBs like in Iraq? Taking potshots at underequipped goatherders?
Ukraine can barely arm their own people, much less a bunch of foreign yahoos.
Also, desert then cry about being treated like a deserter, crehs.