The Russia - Ukraine Conflict

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No. That's his job to try to shame us into World War III it's Biden's job to tell him to Chill.


I mean if you're that concerned you can go over there to help out.

This is just like the goofy run up to the Gulf War in 91 and in 03 in both cases the news kept saying Saddam Bad and We need to do something Well we did 3000 dudes dead and 1.8 Trillion later and Iraq is now a Iranian ally. The dude Al Sadr is a player in the country where he directly confronted us.

An escalation is good for me because then the Support our Troops fake love goes into overdrive and service members get raises and bonuses and Retired servicemembers get raises too so that means more days on the beach for me and more inflation and tax debt for you.
Man fukk that shyt you talking about we aint got shyt to speak about.
 

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Doesn't Russia want to replace their entire government? An unprovoked invasion doesn't leave Ukraine with much options. There was peace right before this war. I don't understand what concessions Ukraine could give in a peace deal. Russia already took over Crimea and some other city in the Dunbas region. What else should Ukraine need forced to concede as a sovereign emtity?
Surrender is an option. That's what happens everytime you lose a war.

No one is saying that the Ukranians can "win" the best they can say is that they're not losing .....yet. If Russia took the gloves off and just started pounding them with artillery strikes this is over. Russian warned nikkas when they attacked that Nuke Plant, It's fukked up but they were willing to risk a nuclear meltdown (and blow back to Russia) just to turn off the lights to parts of Urkaine.

Winning to them is like saying that Taliban defeated us. Russia owned the Urkaine for hundreds of years they're just not gonna give up. Besides they can't if they did Ukraine would demand and get US troops on the border of Russia.
 

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fukk all that, how many cacs have died so far? :unimpressed:


Does anyone have a counter or official numbers?
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Surrender is an option. That's what happens everytime you lose a war.

No one is saying that the Ukranians can "win" the best they can say is that they're not losing .....yet. If Russia took the gloves off and just started pounding them with artillery strikes this is over. Russian warned nikkas when they attacked that Nuke Plant, It's fukked up but they were willing to risk a nuclear meltdown (and blow back to Russia) just to turn off the lights to parts of Urkaine.

Winning to them is like saying that Taliban defeated us. Russia owned the Urkaine for hundreds of years they're just not gonna give up. Besides they can't if they did Ukraine would demand and get US troops on the border of Russia.
In that case. What Ukraine is doing is justified. Ukraine is merely fighting for its existence. I would expect nothing less from a sovereign nation that gets invaded

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Doesn't Russia want to replace their entire government? An unprovoked invasion doesn't leave Ukraine with much options. There was peace right before this war. I don't understand what concessions Ukraine could give in a peace deal. Russia already took over Crimea and some other city in the Dunbas region. What else should Ukraine need forced to concede as a sovereign emtity?
The Nazis were shelling the Russians in the east of Ukraine. Doing gypsy purges, as Nazis do and slowly moving Russian friendly ukrainians out of the paint.
 

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The Nazis were shelling the Russians in the east of Ukraine. Doing gypsy purges, as Nazis do and slowly moving Russian friendly ukrainians out of the paint.
This was going on before Russia invaded and annexed those regions or after?
 

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Man fukk that shyt you talking about we aint got shyt to speak about.
nikka you better be a Urkainian. because ofther than that it makes zero sense to be riding so hard for them.

I mean you'd probably be the same dude crying about high ass inflation and gas prices trying to get Trump back in there.


It's crazy how the media can manipulate people there's wars in Africa now ISWAP is cutting people's heads off from Mali to Mozambique but all eyes are on a few thousand people being dead.

This is how interventions start the media drives this shyt.
 

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In that case. What Ukraine is doing is justified. Ukraine is merely fighting for its existence. I would expect nothing less from a sovereign nation that gets invaded

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They weren't a "soveregn nation until 1991!!.

It's crazy I'm and old breh I went to school with a cat from Czechosloviakia (his pop's was an diplomat) He said he was a slovak not Czech. Later the country separated into three. I knew a Bulgarian kid who's father was a mechanic for the Soviet embassy The reason why they needed a Mechanic to fix their cars was because they didn't want the americans bugging them. Why did his father work for the Soviet embassy (which Ukraine was a state) because Bulgaria at that time was allied with the Soviets.

That's like saying had the South "won" the Civil war and the North invaded The "soveriegn" states of the CSA that they would be "justified". I mean they would but that doesn't mean the world would be "justified" to send troops.
 

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This was going on before Russia invaded and annexed those regions or after?
Ukraine was a province of Russia for hundreds of years, In fact the Nazi's supported an Ïndependent State" Of Ukraine (until they didn't) There were tons of Ukrainans in the Nazi army whole divisions of nothing but Ukrainan troops.

A divison is made up of at least 11 thousand people there were three Ukraininan divisons (but only two at one time) Not counting the Concentration Camp guards and police units.
 

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They weren't a "soveregn nation until 1991!!.
So they have been a sovereign functioning and internationally recognized nation for 31 years?

I'm not sure what your anecdotal evidence contributes to this discussion. The Ukrainian people don't seem to agree with Russias invasion. The person they elected doesn't agree.

How many years does a sovereign nation have to be sovereign before they actually count as sovereign?
 

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Ukraine was a province of Russia for hundreds of years, In fact the Nazi's supported an Ïndependent State" Of Ukraine (until they didn't) There were tons of Ukrainans in the Nazi army whole divisions of nothing but Ukrainan troops.

A divison is made up of at least 11 thousand people there were three Ukraininan divisons (but only two at one time) Not counting the Concentration Camp guards and police units.
You didn't answer my question.
 
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