The Rock is about to break a Hollywood record for highest-paid actor

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I don't understand the hype with him, the rock is what Sidney sweetie is to men but for women.

He was cool back in his WWF days but holy shyt his film career's been so underwhelming.

He comes off as a bootleg Vin Diesel, I do think if he was an action movie star in the 80s/90s he would've been Arnold Schwarzenegger levels just because all you had to be was a big muscle man.
 

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Rock knows how to play the game to get paid

Get white women as co stars lovers

Play the tough guy and the goof and the gentle giant in other films

And plays that we all should be one when it comes to politics

His PR team doing a hella of job
Jungle Cruise is a primetime example of this.
 

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I don't understand the hype with him, the rock is what Sidney sweetie is to men but for women.

He was cool back in his WWF days but holy shyt his film career's been so underwhelming.

He comes off as a bootleg Vin Diesel, I do think if he was an action movie star in the 80s/90s he would've been Arnold Schwarzenegger levels just because all you had to be was a big muscle man.
Nah, because those same action movies are still popular today. The rock just doesn't make those type of films. 90s action movies in the 2020s. are films like John Wick, The Raid, the Extraction. Rated R violent full of action, dark themes. Movies like that compare to films like Predator, Terminator, Rambo etc.
The Rock makes fun, humor filled family movies with cartoon violence. There is a difference.
his movies like Central Intelligence and Jumanji are movies Chris Tucker and Robin Williams would make in the 90s. Not Sylvester Stallone and Arnold.
Problem with that is he isn't as funny as Chris Tucker and Robin williams. He trying to get himself a franchise like Rush Hour, but he actually needs a franchise like Rambo. He picked the wrong audience from the very beginning, and that's why his shyt has not generated any classics. But i don't think he cars because he making a lot of money catering to the family audience.
 

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Nah, because those same action movies are still popular today. The rock just doesn't make those type of films. 90s action movies in the 2020s. are films like John Wick, The Raid, the Extraction. Rated R violent full of action, dark themes. Movies like that compare to films like Predator, Terminator, Rambo etc.
The Rock makes fun, humor filled family movies with cartoon violence. There is a difference.
his movies like Central Intelligence and Jumanji are movies Chris Tucker and Robin Williams would make in the 90s. Not Sylvester Stallone and Arnold.
Problem with that is he isn't as funny as Chris Tucker and Robin williams. He trying to get himself a franchise like Rush Hour, but he actually needs a franchise like Rambo. He picked the wrong audience from the very beginning, and that's why his shyt has not generated any classics. But i don't think he cars because he making a lot of money catering to the family audience.
Who is the Stallone or Arnold of today? Nobody. There isn't an actor known for straight up action, Mr. Tough Muscle Man movies ONLY. They both made a pivot to the family lane in the 90s. Rock started there because he had their blueprint to follow. If you tryna make money, you looking for the widest audience. So I am not sure you can say he picked the wrong lane. The lack of classics is more so about the material than the lane. There are classics in every lane. It's also harder to make a classic now because everyone is a Gene Siskel/The Comic Book Guy. Also gotta consider that the stuff that sold those movies (violence, crass language, nudity/sex) are everywhere now. It's not this special thing you have to go to the movies to see. I think the Rock has tried to cast a wide net (straight action, straight family, mix of the two with some comedy thrown in) and that has actually helped him to not get pigeon holed and like you said maximize his earnings.
 

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Who is the Stallone or Arnold of today? Nobody. There isn't an actor known for straight up action, Mr. Tough Muscle Man movies ONLY. They both made a pivot to the family lane in the 90s. Rock started there because he had their blueprint to follow. If you tryna make money, you looking for the widest audience. So I am not sure you can say he picked the wrong lane. The lack of classics is more so about the material than the lane. There are classics in every lane. It's also harder to make a classic now because everyone is a Gene Siskel/The Comic Book Guy. Also gotta consider that the stuff that sold those movies (violence, crass language, nudity/sex) are everywhere now. It's not this special thing you have to go to the movies to see. I think the Rock has tried to cast a wide net (straight action, straight family, mix of the two with some comedy thrown in) and that has actually helped him to not get pigeon holed and like you said maximize his earnings.
Arnold switched to the family lane later in his career, but he didn't make any classics in that lane is my point.
The Rock would be the Arnold of today if he had made more mature movies starting out instead of rushing towards the endgame.
There were plenty of successful action stars after Arnold and Stallone they just weren't running hollywood like they were. Jason Statham, Vin diesel. types
Other bigger stars that were more versatile as actors were able to successfully jump from genre to genre. People like WIll smith & Tom Cruise
 

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Arnold switched to the family lane later in his career, but he didn't make any classics in that lane is my point.
The Rock would be the Arnold of today if he had made more mature movies starting out instead of rushing towards the endgame.
There were plenty of successful action stars after Arnold and Stallone they just weren't running hollywood like they were. Jason Statham, Vin diesel. types
Other bigger stars that were more versatile as actors were able to successfully jump from genre to genre. People like WIll smith & Tom Cruise
That's my point. You can't do what you did in the 80s and think it's gonna hit the same. Arnold didn't switch to family just because. Stallone didn't switch to family and moreso the serious acting type stuff just because. The market for the type of pure action stuff that they put out in the 80s dried up in the 90s. You put those same movies out now, and they get picked apart in a way that they didn't get picked apart back then. Fast and Furious is huge and makes big time money but people view it as a joke, not classics. They dont' take it serious, it's just ridiculous fun. In the 80s that would definitely be considered classic. And you don't see Vin doing anything else. He tried to move around, left the franchise, even tried the family lane but none of it was hitting like that so he came back to where his bread was buttered. Will's whole career was carefully planned and plotted. It's all a long money game now.
 

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To be fair motherfukkers have made more money off of points on the gross on the backend. The Rock just demanded the most up front because this movie looks stupid as fukk and might tank.

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Who is the Stallone or Arnold of today? Nobody. There isn't an actor known for straight up action, Mr. Tough Muscle Man movies ONLY.

While not a "tough, muscle man", I'd still give Jason Statham his props. Transporter 1&2 were blassics :wow:

While he was never smooth enough to play 007 and get that bag, he was/is a great action star.
 

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That's my point. You can't do what you did in the 80s and think it's gonna hit the same. Arnold didn't switch to family just because. Stallone didn't switch to family and moreso the serious acting type stuff just because. The market for the type of pure action stuff that they put out in the 80s dried up in the 90s. You put those same movies out now, and they get picked apart in a way that they didn't get picked apart back then. Fast and Furious is huge and makes big time money but people view it as a joke, not classics. They dont' take it serious, it's just ridiculous fun. In the 80s that would definitely be considered classic. And you don't see Vin doing anything else. He tried to move around, left the franchise, even tried the family lane but none of it was hitting like that so he came back to where his bread was buttered. Will's whole career was carefully planned and plotted. It's all a long money game now.
You're wrong, and i already disproved that point in my first post. One Action films are the number one box office thing in hollywood right, The action films of today are just about superheros more than cops, assassins and commandos like back in the day.
But not just that, even the ones that follow the exact same formula are also well received when done well. Like the John Wick series.
There absolutely is market for pure action as they are the only films making a billion dollars right now. Y
 

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You're wrong, and i already disproved that point in my first post. One Action films are the number one box office thing in hollywood right, The action films of today are just about superheros more than cops, assassins and commandos like back in the day.
But not just that, even the ones that follow the exact same formula are also well received when done well. Like the John Wick series.
There absolutely is market for pure action as they are the only films making a billion dollars right now. Y
So in other words you can't do what you did back then, like I said? Arnold and Sly's movies sold because of them. These movies now are huge because of the material, not the stars. The movies make the stars, not the other way around. Keanu isnt' as big as he was 30 years ago and you don't see him with a bunch of other shoot em up movies. You can't be a star on the level that Arnold and Sly were back then doing big action only and you can see that based on the choices these actors are making. No one is following that path AND on succeeding to the level that they did, because it aint' it no more.
 
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