**The Roc Boys Are In The Building!: The Houston Rockets 2013-14 Season Thread**

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Who still doubts the ROC Boys?!!?!?!?!

 

[who_better_than_me]

Do y'all feel this team is better than the 09 squad with Artest? If the injuries didn't happen I always felt we would've won a ring that year.

 

[Charlie Broadway]

Do y'all feel this team is better than the 09 squad with Artest? If the injuries didn't happen I always felt we would've won a ring that year.

This team is built in a better way I think. I'd rather have Yao to dump the ball down inside to but I like what Dwight brings defensively. I'm thinking his playoff experience will help coming down the stretch too. No question I'd rather have Harden over anyone on that team as the closer. Deeper team as well. A lot will come down to matchups. I want to avoid okc and the clips for as long as possible. I'd love to get the 2 seed and play Phoenix or the warriors in the 1st rd, the spurs in the 2nd rd, and okc/clips in the conference finals.

 

[who_better_than_me]

This team is built in a better way I think. I'd rather have Yao to dump the ball down inside to but I like what Dwight brings defensively. I'm thinking his playoff experience will help coming down the stretch too. No question I'd rather have Harden over anyone on that team as the closer. Deeper team as well. A lot will come down to matchups. I want to avoid okc and the clips for as long as possible. I'd love to get the 2 seed and play Phoenix or the warriors in the 1st rd, the spurs in the 2nd rd, and okc/clips in the conference finals.

The team with Artest as much deeper than this team. Our bench from that year was godly. Our bench this year can't even sustain a lead. Lowry, Landry, Mutumbo, Brent Barry, wafer, Hayes. This is the weakest bench we had in years and potentially our downfall along with turnovers

 

[King Jove]

Do y'all feel this team is better than the 09 squad with Artest? If the injuries didn't happen I always felt we would've won a ring that year.

ionno

brooks
mcgrady
artest
scola
yao

lowry
vonhawk
battier
landry

with adelman as the coach?

that was a SQUAD

 

[who_better_than_me]

ionno

brooks
mcgrady
artest
scola
yao

lowry
vonhawk
battier
landry

with adelman as the coach?

that was a SQUAD

That's why I say these nigguh's don't know about basketball on this site. Whenever i say Houston would've won a ring that year if even yao could've stayed healthy, they think a nigguh trollin. We would've beaten orlando in 5 games top that year in the final. Remember how Yao used to dominated Dwight.

 

[Rich Spirit]

The team with Artest as much deeper than this team. Our bench from that year was godly. Our bench this year can't even sustain a lead. Lowry, Landry, Mutumbo, Brent Barry, wafer, Hayes. This is the weakest bench we had in years and potentially our downfall along with turnovers

I remember this team. Sucked that Mutombo injured his knee. He brought that defensive energy in our bench that year and really played on a high level too. Playing like the old Mutombo

 

[Charlie Broadway]

The team with Artest as much deeper than this team. Our bench from that year was godly. Our bench this year can't even sustain a lead. Lowry, Landry, Mutumbo, Brent Barry, wafer, Hayes. This is the weakest bench we had in years and potentially our downfall along with turnovers

That's why I say these nigguh's don't know about basketball on this site. Whenever i say Houston would've won a ring that year if even yao could've stayed healthy, they think a nigguh trollin. We would've beaten orlando in 5 games top that year in the final. Remember how Yao used to dominated Dwight.

Before we start tossing around who "don't know about basketball" lets make sure we get our facts straight. First of all Tracy was injured that post season. Then you toss around Lowry's name as if he was the same player he is now. Let's look at that squad:

Brooks
Battier
Artest
Scola
Yao

Look I fukks with AB, he went off that post season but dude mostly impacted the offensive end. Beverly will make a huge impact on the defensive end. I don't even need to waste my time explaining why Harden and Parsons are better. I'm honestly not sure if I'd rather have Scola/Yao over Jones/Dwight.

The bench had Landry (gave us about 10 and 5 in the offs), Von (complete dumbass), a young Lowry (was beastly with his 6 and 3 ), Chuck wagon (much respect but come on), and Bones dropping in a few points a game.

That's some real rich revisionist history. If Lin puts up Lowry's playoff numbers that year nikkas here would skewer him. You take Von and I'll take Hamilton's offense, defense, and rebounding. Landry>dmo for sure but as I said a while back dmo don't get any credit on this site. Asik is clearly better than Hayes. Somehow some way I'm sure Garcia, Casspi, or Canaan can equal Barry's slight contribution.

Real godly breh.

 

[who_better_than_me]

Before we start tossing around who "don't know about basketball" lets make sure we get our facts straight. First of all Tracy was injured that post season. Then you toss around Lowry's name as if he was the same player he is now. Let's look at that squad:

Brooks
Battier
Artest
Scola
Yao

Look I fukks with AB, he went off that post season but dude mostly impacted the offensive end. Beverly will make a huge impact on the defensive end. I don't even need to waste my time explaining why Harden and Parsons are better. I'm honestly not sure if I'd rather have Scola/Yao over Jones/Dwight.

The bench had Landry (gave us about 10 and 5 in the offs), Von (complete dumbass), a young Lowry (was beastly with his 6 and 3 ), Chuck wagon (much respect but come on), and Bones dropping in a few points a game.

That's some real rich revisionist history. If Lin puts up Lowry's playoff numbers that year nikkas here would skewer him. You take Von and I'll take Hamilton's offense, defense, and rebounding. Landry>dmo for sure but as I said a while back dmo don't get any credit on this site. Asik is clearly better than Hayes. Somehow some way I'm sure Garcia, Casspi, or Canaan can equal Barry's slight contribution.

Real godly breh.

What are u talkin about. Whose comparing Lowry to Lowry now. He was apart of bench mob then. I hope u not lookin at numbers. If u watched the rockets that year, u know the bench was a huge strength.

And pls tell me, u not tryin to say that Paros. Is anywhere near Artest level. Paros. Is a glorified role player. Artest help carried that team especially when tmac bailed. If the second beat I than current squad goes down, our playoffs aspirations are all gone. Parsons can not step in and give us what Artest brought.

I really have no words or logic for u if u think parsons is better than Artest. Prime Artest at that.

 

[Charlie Broadway]

What are u talkin about. Whose comparing Lowry to Lowry now. He was apart of bench mob then. I hope u not lookin at numbers. If u watched the rockets that year, u know the bench was a huge strength.

And pls tell me, u not tryin to say that Paros. Is anywhere near Artest level. Paros. Is a glorified role player. Artest help carried that team especially when tmac bailed. If the second beat I than current squad goes down, our playoffs aspirations are all gone. Parsons can not step in and give us what Artest brought.

I really have no words or logic for u if u think parsons is better than Artest. Prime Artest at that.

@ this whole post...

Nikka I'm comparing Lowry then to Lin now. He was a bulldog defensively and helped get the opposing team in foul trouble. He was nowhere near what he is today though. If, and I mean IF, 09 Lowry had more of an impact than Lin when he has his mind right it is a very slight edge. Lin was a 6th man candidate at one point this year and has shown the ability to shoulder the offensive load if needed unlike Lowry back in 09. That shyt won't be valuable in the playoffs?

2nd I was saying a wing duo of Parsons and Harden is better than Battier and Artest. Only an idiot would argue against that. 3rd that wasn't no cotdamn prime Ron Artest tf is wrong with you nikka do YOU watch basketball?Yeah I'd put that Artest over Parsons now but it sure as hell seems your memory has fuzzied the talent difference there too. 09 Ron had slipped defensively and offensively he was pretty damn similar in many ways. Granted Ron had more of a post game but Aaron Brooks was carrying that team offensively along with Yao. Fukk outta here with if I watched them that year. I saw clearly from my Toyota Center seats for EVERY home playoff game just like I plan on doing again this year. The audacity... nikka probably forgot Von went awol tossing that water bottle.

 

[who_better_than_me]

@ this whole post...

Nikka I'm comparing Lowry then to Lin now. He was a bulldog defensively and helped get the opposing team in foul trouble. He was nowhere near what he is today though. If, and I mean IF, 09 Lowry had more of an impact than Lin when he has his mind right it is a very slight edge. Lin was a 6th man candidate at one point this year and has shown the ability to shoulder the offensive load if needed unlike Lowry back in 09. That shyt won't be valuable in the playoffs?

2nd I was saying a wing duo of Parsons and Harden is better than Battier and Artest. Only an idiot would argue against that. 3rd that wasn't no cotdamn prime Ron Artest tf is wrong with you nikka do YOU watch basketball?Yeah I'd put that Artest over Parsons now but it sure as hell seems your memory has fuzzied the talent difference there too. 09 Ron had slipped defensively and offensively he was pretty damn similar in many ways. Granted Ron had more of a post game but Aaron Brooks was carrying that team offensively along with Yao. Fukk outta here with if I watched them that year. I saw clearly from my Toyota Center seats for EVERY home playoff game just like I plan on doing again this year. The audacity... nikka probably forgot Von went awol tossing that water bottle.

Pardon the typos, typing from a phone. Hopefully my post are still interpretable.

It's pointless comparing Lin to Lowry. I just don't see the point. Lin gets shytted on because of the value placed on him by this franchise, which basically dictated the expectations put on him. The numbers he was puttin up in November would've been fine for someone make 4-5 mill a year. Not for a bench player with his salary and as inconsistent as he is. For the role there playing, I would take Lowry. Mchale wants Lin to push the pace when howard and harden are out toget some easier buckets and lin fails miserably at that. U can't point out individual stats with that squad. Lowry had a much bigger impact than his stats suggest. Lowry ran the second unit the way he was suppose to. He pushed the tempo and facilitated the ball.

U brought up defensive liability but the team were built different. Aaron height makes automatically a liability on defense but how many teams really took advantage of that. That 09 team was better on team defense and knew how to accomodate him for his shortcomings.

And Brooks wasn't carrying the team offensively. It was a balance team. Yao did his thing, as did Scola, Artest, and the bench mob. That was the thing with that squad, u couldn't just focus on one player u had to to focus on all of them because the team was a good passing team(besides Von) and would hit the open man.

You comparing parts of the whole as opposed to whole of the parts. These two team are vast opposites. The offensive system are completely different. Clearly harden is better that Battier. But Battier brought a lot to the table for that squad. He brought balance and leadership to that starting lineup.

Calm the fukk down, I wasn't insinuating u aint watch game. And what the ruck Von having a me frown moment have to do with anything. He played a huge role in that team. Why bring up that one moment of frustration when he had so many good moments for that team. Von was baller.

 

[Charlie Broadway]

Pardon the typos, typing from a phone. Hopefully my post are still interpretable.

It's pointless comparing Lin to Lowry. I just don't see the point. Lin gets shytted on because of the value placed on him by this franchise, which basically dictated the expectations put on him. The numbers he was puttin up in November would've been fine for someone make 4-5 mill a year. Not for a bench player with his salary and as inconsistent as he is. For the role there playing, I would take Lowry. Mchale wants Lin to push the pace when howard and harden are out toget some easier buckets and lin fails miserably at that. U can't point out individual stats with that squad. Lowry had a much bigger impact than his stats suggest. Lowry ran the second unit the way he was suppose to. He pushed the tempo and facilitated the ball.

U brought up defensive liability but the team were built different. Aaron height makes automatically a liability on defense but how many teams really took advantage of that. That 09 team was better on team defense and knew how to accomodate him for his shortcomings.

And Brooks wasn't carrying the team offensively. It was a balance team. Yao did his thing, as did Scola, Artest, and the bench mob. That was the thing with that squad, u couldn't just focus on one player u had to to focus on all of them because the team was a good passing team(besides Von) and would hit the open man.

You comparing parts of the whole as opposed to whole of the parts. These two team are vast opposites. The offensive system are completely different. Clearly harden is better that Battier. But Battier brought a lot to the table for that squad. He brought balance and leadership to that starting lineup.

Calm the fukk down, I wasn't insinuating u aint watch game. And what the ruck Von having a me frown moment have to do with anything. He played a huge role in that team. Why bring up that one moment of frustration when he had so many good moments for that team. Von was baller.

I compared Lin and Lowry because both run backup pg, no more no less. As someone that got looked at crazy countless times for suggesting Lowry should start over Brooks at the time I agree with you on what he did for the second unit.

I brought up Brooks dominating on one side to compare with Beverly dominating on one side. I'd still take that Brooks though. As far as masking his limitations on defense a lot of has to do with having Yao and Dikembe inside. Losing Dikembe, and later Yao hurt. Similarly if Harden gets hurt it would affect Pat (more than say Lin) because Harden shoulders much of the playmaking burden.

I'm comparing parts to parts because that team wasn't whole. That's the damn point. No Tracy and Dikembe altered everybody's role for that specific time frame.

Von could give you some instant offense (and by offense I mean purely scoring) but that was it. I've always thought dude was an underachiever and was slightly overrated by some fans.

It's all good, agree to disagree on this one. I don't like arguing with the HTown brehs. Enjoy the weekend boss

 

[Rich Spirit]

Harden for MVP

 

[Primetime]

these past 4 games.. wow

 

[who_better_than_me]

Harden should be in discussion for MVP. Not necessarily favored to win