The Republican Party Post-Trump - What Will It Look Like...?

[Payday23]

thats a bold prediction, breh

biden is gonna be a fukkin mummy by 2024. he served his purpose perfectly in 2020, but tell me you dont see joe biden running a good, nationwide, active campaign over 3 years from now

meanwhile Captain Covid is gonna be running on florida's economy making it through without shutting down, and people are gonna eat that shyt up. complete with a trump endorsement

 

[the next guy]

but kamala wouldn't.

You don’t think she can bring out the dem base like Biden did?

I mean I don’t think she could but she may be able to get more than deklantis. He’s like a swagless trump

i don't think it was biden bringing the base out, i think they were really repulsed by trump. white people are never afraid of people like dekkklantis until they get in office and show their ass. they'll be all *shrug* he's not a mortal danger let's give him a chance.

She could not make it to Iowa, what makes you think she could win a general? She will face a challenge even if Biden steps down and that's not guaranteed she would win. She's a bad politician above all else.

thats a bold prediction, breh

biden is gonna be a fukkin mummy by 2024. he served his purpose perfectly in 2020, but tell me you dont see joe biden running a good, nationwide, active campaign over 3 years from now

meanwhile Captain Covid is gonna be running on florida's economy making it through without shutting down, and people are gonna eat that shyt up. complete with a trump endorsement

Biden vs DeSantis in 2024 would be interesting. I would take Biden, but I see DeSantis making up the trump losses at least. It would be close.

 

[the cac mamba]

Biden started off his presidency with a lot of energy so him handling the pandemic and letting people out for the summer/ getting checks out will have him a step ahead. If dems are able to pass the VRA I think they’ll keep the house and senate.

She could not make it to Iowa, what makes you think she could win a general? She will face a challenge even if Biden steps down and that's not guaranteed she would win. She's a bad politician above all else.
Biden vs DeSantis in 2024 would be interesting. I would take Biden, but I see DeSantis making up the trump losses at least. It would be close.

She could not make it to Iowa, what makes you think she could win a general? She will face a challenge even if Biden steps down and that's not guaranteed she would win. She's a bad politician above all else.
Biden vs DeSantis in 2024 would be interesting. I would take Biden, but I see DeSantis making up the trump losses at least. It would be close.

but the problem is that its not just about getting thru '24. biden will be running to hold the job through '28, at 86 years old i dont see america going for it. from an objective standpoint, its an irresponsible, bad faith effort from biden

you know what im actually hoping for? biden steps down in 23, and kamala runs with a year+ of experience. it would make a world of difference as opposed to her just being the nominee in 24

 

[the next guy]

but the problem is that its not just about getting thru '24. biden will be running to hold the job through '28, at 86 years old i dont see america going for it. from an objective standpoint, its an irresponsible, bad faith effort from biden

you know what im actually hoping for? biden steps down in 23, and kamala runs with a year+ of experience. it would make a world of difference as opposed to her just being the nominee in 24

Yes, but you would be surprised. The Italian president that was just in office when Obama was in was 83 or something like that. The Queen and Prince Phillip are almost 100 years old. It can happen. Besides I think Biden already said he's going again.

 

[Reality Check]

Biden will be running to hold the job through '28, at 86 years old i dont see america going for it.

You're living under a rock if you truly believe that people would choose a Trumpanzee disciple over Biden solely because of age. The Republican Party is moving further and further away from what most Americans believe in; they're becoming the party of Q Snowflakes and that's not a tenable national position. The 1/6 riot cemented that.

 

[the cac mamba]

You're living under a rock if you truly believe that people would choose a Trumpanzee disciple over Biden solely because of age. The Republican Party is moving further and further away from what most Americans believe in; they're becoming the party of Q Snowflakes and that's not a tenable national position. The 1/6 riot cemented that.

nah, you guys are fulla shyt. biden would get completely dragged by the media, on the debate stage, have his age betray him on the campaign trail, for the idea of running to be in office til 86 years old. he served his purpose in 20, lets move on in 24.

covid is gone in 24; he cant campaign from the basement again. he wont be running against the most hated president ever, and just have people checking off biden by default

and i feel like you guys dont actually watch his appearances he's admirably reading off the teleprompter, but gimme a break. you think this guy should still be the president SIX YEARS from now?

i was literally one of the first biden supporters in HL, and i hope to christ they dont run him again. its a mistake

 

[the cac mamba]

You're living under a rock if you truly believe that people would choose a Trumpanzee disciple over Biden solely because of age. The Republican Party is moving further and further away from what most Americans believe in; they're becoming the party of Q Snowflakes and that's not a tenable national position. The 1/6 riot cemented that.

and the republicans arent the party of Qanon in a presidential election, unless they actually run one

what the fukk does desantis have to do with Qanon use your head. that wouldnt stick at all

 

[Wild self]

but the problem is that its not just about getting thru '24. biden will be running to hold the job through '28, at 86 years old i dont see america going for it. from an objective standpoint, its an irresponsible, bad faith effort from biden

you know what im actually hoping for? biden steps down in 23, and kamala runs with a year+ of experience. it would make a world of difference as opposed to her just being the nominee in 24

I can see Biden running, and winning in 2024, and stepping down in 2025.

 

[the cac mamba]

I can see Biden running, and winning in 2024, and stepping down in 2025.

which is exactly why he'll lose

who would vote for that? a half ass candidate whos liable to step down whenever? you think his stutter is gonna be better or worse at 82?

im just calling it like i see it. its an awful nomination

 

[Wild self]

which is exactly why he'll lose

who would vote for that? a half ass candidate whos liable to step down whenever? you think his stutter is gonna be better or worse at 82?

im just calling it like i see it. its an awful nomination

any GOP lackey that supported Trump and the 1/6 insurrection that gets the 2024 nomination, gonna get bodied with the video footage and them supporting that. No one is going to forget the horrors of the COVID19 era

 

[DrBanneker]

I see Trumpism (MAGA+) winning out in the short and medium term fight for the GOP's soul. I think you need to understand from history that these movements are usually only stopped by a complete and total catastrophe (war or economic usually) that exposes their leaders as incompetent or outright evil.

We have not really seen that. People keep bigging up the 1/6 riot but a lot of the MAGA types are engaged in whataboutism regarding the riots in cities from George Floyd protest agitators. They really see themselves as unfairly singled out and persecuted and the social media bans isn't helping this narrative.

Stop playing Polyanna----if there had been no COVID, Trump would still be president. He didn't do too bad in the election even with his crazy incompetent handling of COVID. The problem is the GOP is backed into a corner. They have whittled their base down to Whites, particularly the majority of lower economic standing and educational attainment, so they have to do what it takes to cater to that demographic. Without a wider base, they can only recover if their base changes its views. Their base hasn't changed its views and honestly the social/economic/political dynamite that animates those views is still there. It will probably just get worse under Biden since these first incrementalist policies I am seeing isn't going to solve shyt but rub salt on the immigration and culture war problems.

 

[DrBanneker]

any GOP lackey that supported Trump and the 1/6 insurrection that gets the 2024 nomination, gonna get bodied with the video footage and them supporting that. No one is going to forget the horrors of the COVID19 era

No, not necessarily. They can lay that at Trump's feet (and his alone) and then run ads showing violence and destruction in the riots after George Floyd's death. Which images do you think the majority of Americans feel most threatened by? I wish the American population was some rarefied intellectual salon but it ain't.

 

[the cac mamba]

any GOP lackey that supported Trump and the 1/6 insurrection that gets the 2024 nomination, gonna get bodied with the video footage and them supporting that. No one is going to forget the horrors of the COVID19 era

hawley and cruz, yeah. but as the governor of florida and not a washington head, desantis was sufficiently not connected to that. it actually might lowkey be their best play to run him

who knows. maybe we'll get lucky and theyll actually run trump again

 

[the cac mamba]

I wish the American population was some rarefied intellectual salon but it ain't.

thats the problem in here sometimes, dudes give the american public way too much credit

if trump getting elected taught us one thing, its that americans love to vote for this fake bullshyt idea of "business success" that the republicans unfortunately successfully push. trump and desantis are the embodiment of that

if they polished desantis, he might be a problem in 24. i didnt realize it at first, but i see it at this point

-he WILL come out of covid as a "successful governor" who "saved his economy"; i guarantee it
-hes not washington, so he's sufficiently removed from the MAGA riots
-governor of a huge state thats starting to attract business with low taxes
-as governor of FL he clearly knows how to win with hispanics
-he'll have trump endorse him, and has that same "drink a beer with" bullshyt quality that got W elected. twice
-he'd win AZ and GA

the writings on the wall there. thats kind of a solid list

 

[DrBanneker]

thats the problem in here sometimes, dudes give the american public way too much credit

if trump getting elected taught us one thing, its that americans love to vote for this fake bullshyt idea of "business success" that the republicans unfortunately successfully push. trump and desantis are the embodiment of that

if they polished desantis, he might be a problem in 24. i didnt realize it at first, but i see it at this point

-he WILL come out of covid as a "successful governor" who "saved his economy"; i guarantee it
-hes not washington, so he's sufficiently removed from the MAGA riots
-governor of a huge state thats starting to attract business with low taxes
-as governor of FL he clearly knows how to win with hispanics
-he'll have trump endorse him, and has that same "drink a beer with" bullshyt quality that got W elected. twice
-he'd win AZ and GA

the writings on the wall there. thats kind of a solid list

What's going to be real interesting is if the GOP nomination will be a slugfest/shyt show with 15 candidates at first like in 2016. It may be harder for DeSantis to stand out unless you have full party backing on him from the get go. A lot of people were sure Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, or Ted Cruz were the party favorites but with all the division Trump found an in