Broke Wave
The GOAT
Mitt Romney gets the nod for doing a program... Over Obama who was the editor of the most prestigious law review in the world.
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I'm not convinced that completing the MBA/JD is enough to decide that, though. One would have to factor in grades, specific classes taken, extracurricular achievements (I don't think being editor and then president of the law review is exactly insignificant.) If Mitt's degree was just a glorified business degree, which it easily could have been (and what we know of his biography supports this account, making explicit his completely apolitical educational experience) then I definitely wouldn't consider his education superior with respect to the presidency. He would have literally no educational background in politics and governance.
filial_piety
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Mitt Romney gets the nod for doing a program... Over Obama who was the editor of the most prestigious law review in the world.
If he was trying to become a SCJ...you'd have a point-- JD/Harvard Law beats a JD/MBA from Harvard. THe MBA would be rendered usless to some extent.
As President Harvard JD/MBA>>> Harvard JD/HLR...both are qualified on paper, Mitt's is more impressive.
filial_piety
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We could go on and on on.and speculate til the end of time...with college professor reccomendations etc etc...we could call Mittens MBA a "glorified business degree" as much as we could assume Obama made Harvard review because he was "black" or tokenized for it. (I don't think either are true)
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Who knows? If Obama applied to the MBA/JD and had no interest in HLR would he have gotten in? It Mittens wanted to forego the MBA/JD program and take a stab at HLR would he have gotten it? WHo knows.
I think the JD/MBA program admits something like 3-5% of its applicants. And to be HLR you obviously have to have stellar grades and recommendations. Either way, I think it's safe to assume that GPA wise they are neck and neck.
But for what we know...Harvard JD/MBA>>>Harvard JD/HLR for President
Bain/ Boston Group Consulting>>> (junior) Civil Rights Attorney
Columbia UG Poli Sci>>> BA English BYU
Quick question...roll back to 2008...WHo's more "qualified" on paper? Obama or McCain?
Broke Wave
The GOAT
This is useless... its just your opinion of what makes a better president. He wasn't just part of the HLR he was the editor of the HLR... it's about policy not about who got to do the more prestigious things... Romney's economic and foreign policies make him UTTERLY unqualified to be president, and the American people agree.
Breh, you didn't prove anything. THe only reason I'm going to stop replying to you after this is to not derail this thread because I'm sure people will be talking about the actual shyt tomorrow morning. If you know anything about me, I can argue all day and that I of all people who post here would know how those degrees work.
Let's go over the facts of your stupidty.
1) You based Romney being more qualified by saying he has a JD/MBA vs. Obama having just a JD. At no point did you implicate which degrees they had. I responded that you can't speak in general terms like that and that JD/MBA are skewed towards business. Your dumbass somehow disagrees. Yet, you've never stepped foot anywhere near an ivy league campus just based on your lack of common sense.
- The Richmond JD/MBA v. Columbia law degree analogy was common sense which you know damn well has nothing to do with where either one of them went to school. It was just a shot at your absolutist rhetoric.
- Further, no a JD/MBA does not always trump a JD. This is why you have no idea what you're talking about. Many employers see no added value on a JD/MBA, many law firms see no difference in it unless you have a specific practice area in corporate law, capital markets, finance, hedge funds, etc. that you want to get into. But you don't go to a top law school so you didn't know that? Did you?
- You've never been prepped for those interivews, have you? Investment banks come onto our campus looking specifically to hire JDs because they like the way they think as opposed to MBAs, but you wouldn't know that, would you?
- Finally, an elite law program education is damn near universally more rigorous than an elite business program education (save like 3 or 4 schools) so the idea that Romney's b-school education gave him anything more than another perspective is ridiculous. Particularly because he got it after going straight through and most businesses have no use for people who get MBA with no prior experience. There's a reason b-school guys laugh at the work law school guys are putting in.
2) You think that highlighting that one has to meet the requirements of both degrees show that they are separate. This again shows your ignorance. Of course you are earning to separate degrees, but within the confines of a structured program. Do you not understand that 1 ENTIRE year of study is being knocked off? Do you think that would be possible otherwise? I would explain it to you but this seems simpler
- fukk if I will, those 10 credits are equal to somewhere between 3-4 classes. That's essentially 3/4 of one semester where the credits count towards both.
- But more on average one would probably have 12-14 credits a semester in law school (depending on how a school counts credits) and end up with about 64 at graduation. Given this program, after the 12 credits in your first year, only 52 TOTAL credits are remaining. Only 36 of which have to be law school classes. Therefore, literally 28% of your would-be law school credits are met by b-school courses.
3) Having to still fulfill the pro bono requirement is not proof that the programs are disconnected. I have no idea what you're trying to prove. But you're not proving it. For your 3rd and 4th years you are simultaneously a student in both schools, on both list serves, etc. You get preferences in classes that give first priority to JD students that b-school kids want and vice versa.
This is what a JD/MBA program looks like at a top law school: http://law.duke.edu/admis/downloads/JDMBAschedules.pdf
But it's no skewed towards businessStop.
I don't even understand what you are arguing. I literally don't understand why you would disagree with me, only to later agree and then think that you made a point.
filial_piety
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Your argument is full of holes. First, it's all opinions...that's what the message board is for
He was editor of HLR...but Policy as President is enmeshed with economics. You continuously attempt to downplay Romney's MBA/work experience as if it meant nothing or was minimal. Why? Because you and I both know, that there is no rebuttal for Obama to that. On foreign relations, many would argue that Obama is a disaster, while Romney is unproven. As for the "American people" he'll probably win the popular vote, if not the whole thing...you have a point, but I'm also sure that the "American people" would be more aware of Snookie's pregnancy than they would of the DNC.
Piff Perkins
Veteran
Romney's certainly more qualified than Obama at not giving a fukk about lower or middle class people. He's more qualified at being a flip flopper. He's more qualified at dodging taxes. He's more qualified at covering abortion in health care plans.
Being a businessman doesn't mean you'll be a good president. George W Bush and Warren Harding were good businessmen too, how did that shyt work out.
Being a businessman doesn't mean you'll be a good president. George W Bush and Warren Harding were good businessmen too, how did that shyt work out.
Tony D'Amato
It's all about the inches
Romney is white and was raised in wealth. Obama hustled and has underrated street smarts on top of an incredible education.
daemonova
hit it, & I didn't go Erykah Badu crazy, #yallmad
the only thing you need to know is south carolina has a higher unemployment rate than georgia and has less niccas, so why can't white people get a job??
Anyone who went to HBS and is honest will tell you that the MBA program is a joke academically. In orientation, the Dean actually says "Congrats guys, the hard part is done, now the easy part begins". Everyone there knows they will get a great job easily, so they party hard, like 5-6 nights a week. Only a minority of students actually study hardcore.
thereheis is a dumbass. At this point in their career, who gives a shyt what their specific degrees were? Won must still be in college or something.
filial_piety
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Another illiterate dem. I guess No Child Left Behind doesn't work after all. If you had been following the bouncing ball, I never made his education a forefront issue. I briefly outlined several key points of his qualifications and the rabid Obama supporters rushed and went on and on about Harvard Law to the point where they were pattently wrong and embarrassed themselves.
You've spent the last 3 pages trying to prove that a JD/MBA is better than a JD/HLR like that shyt matters. This thread is supposed to be about the RNC convention stupid.