Essential "The Real Truth Is Wall Street Regulates Congress": The Offical Bernie Sanders CircleJerk Thread

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dtownreppin214 said:
my biggest issue with him. if you want a bernie-lite candidate who actually gets shyt done then VOTE WARREN.

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goodness , Kamala Harris has don nothing but put in work.

Bernie Sanders averaging 1 bill per year....:scusthov: that's ewwwwwww
 
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dtownreppin214 said:
my biggest issue with him. if you want a bernie-lite candidate who actually gets shyt done then VOTE WARREN.

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This is lazy and overly simplistic. You’d be better off looking at his amendments to bills. Also, why would you expect the most left member of Congress to be cosponsoring bills during the republican congressional takeover of the 90s and 2000s? If anything that shows he was who he said he was. This a dude who got slapped in the face for going against the party and endorsing Jessie Jackson in the 80s. Bernie is more well liked than anyone in the party by the other side. Anyone who was on the Hill will tell you that no one hated him until he ran against Hillary. He has that gentleman quality to him. Obama beat HRC with less concrete plans and then passed Obamacare which was her bill basically. Y’all be very concrete when it comes to young bern.

I say that as someone who is voting for Warren.
 
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This is lazy and overly simplistic. You’d be better off looking at his amendments to bills. Also, why would you expect the most left member of Congress to be cosponsoring bills during the republican congressional takeover of the 90s and 2000s? If anything that shows he was who he said he was. This a dude who got slapped in the face for going against the party and endorsing Jessie Jackson in the 80s. Bernie is more well liked than anyone in the party by the other side. Anyone who was on the Hill will tell you that no one hated him until he ran against Hillary. He has that gentleman quality to him. Obama beat HRC with less concrete plans and then passed Obamacare which was her bill basically. Y’all be very concrete when it comes to young bern.

I say that as someone who is voting for Warren.
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Exactly, I grabbed a link to help show that bills graph is misleading yesterday but I'll throw it here just to add a source to the amendment portion you mentioned:
Bernie Sanders was the roll call amendment king from 1995 to 2007

During his 25 years in Congress, Sanders introduced 324 bills, three of which became law. This includes a bill in a Republican Congress naming a post office in Vermont and two more while Democrats had control (one naming another Vermont post office and another increasing veterans’ disability compensation). Clinton, for the record, also passed three bills in eight years.

But the sparse number of bills isn’t surprising. Volden and Vanderbilt University’s Alan Wiseman assess the legislative effectiveness of House members by comparing their records to a benchmark. According to this analysis, Sanders has either met or exceeded expectations during his tenure in the House (bold indicates Republican Congresses):


During his 25 years in Congress, Sanders introduced 324 bills, three of which became law. This includes a bill in a Republican Congress naming a post office in Vermont and two more while Democrats had control (one naming another Vermont post office and another increasing veterans’ disability compensation). Clinton, for the record, also passed three bills in eight years.

But the sparse number of bills isn’t surprising. Volden and Vanderbilt University’s Alan Wiseman assess the legislative effectiveness of House members by comparing their records to a benchmark. According to this analysis, Sanders has either met or exceeded expectations during his tenure in the House (bold indicates Republican Congresses): (Check article for the graph, it doesn't paste properly).


Lawmakers who belong to the party in control are five times more likely to have their bills go anywhere than minority party members, according to Volden. So Sanders’ legislative approach may seem like fixating on small potatoes, but for an independent who caucuses with the minority party, it’s a smart strategy.

"He could have either resigned himself to that fate, changed the nature of his legislation and coalition-building strategy, or offered amendments on the floor," Volden said. "He chose the third of these paths, making him more influential in shaping policy than if he had taken the first path. Why he did not take the second path is an open question — likely linked to his ideological views."


Lawmakers who belong to the party in control are five times more likely to have their bills go anywhere than minority party members, according to Volden. So Sanders’ legislative approach may seem like fixating on small potatoes, but for an independent who caucuses with the minority party, it’s a smart strategy.

"He could have either resigned himself to that fate, changed the nature of his legislation and coalition-building strategy, or offered amendments on the floor," Volden said. "He chose the third of these paths, making him more influential in shaping policy than if he had taken the first path. Why he did not take the second path is an open question — likely linked to his ideological views."
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No1 said:
This is lazy and overly simplistic. You’d be better off looking at his amendments to bills. Also, why would you expect the most left member of Congress to be cosponsoring bills during the republican congressional takeover of the 90s and 2000s? If anything that shows he was who he said he was. This a dude who got slapped in the face for going against the party and endorsing Jessie Jackson in the 80s. Bernie is more well liked than anyone in the party by the other side. Anyone who was on the Hill will tell you that no one hated him until he ran against Hillary. He has that gentleman quality to him. Obama beat HRC with less concrete plans and then passed Obamacare which was her bill basically. Y’all be very concrete when it comes to young bern.

I say that as someone who is voting for Warren.
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He's old and swaggerless, he's better off in Congress
 
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Perfectson said:
I misread the data thought it was articulating throughout the years in Congress :mjcry:
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Anyway the table is wrong.
The period 2017-18 was 115th Congress, and 116th one is now.
This sloppiness makes me wonder if there are other mistakes in the table.
 
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