The Real Problem With American Healthcare: The Cost

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:whoa: I'm ok with it in no situation save self defense, or defense of others against unwarranted aggressors.
You asked whether it was morally wrong or not to save the man using force... and morally it isnt wrong, but the force used to acquire the rope is(if you follow). Its basically doing an evil to save some one. Its both wrong and right in this scenario:manny:

In that situation I would use force to save the man myself, but that doesn't mean I don't recognize the transgression.

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Yes, it would be wrong in both those new instances.

So let me get this straight...it both is and isn't morally wrong for an individual person to take the guy's rope and save the drowning man.

However it's completely morally wrong for the government to save the man, and also wrong for the government to make a law saying they can commandeer the rope in the event of an emergency. So basically, in a situation where no private citizen is able/willing to take the rope (because they lack the amount of force required), in an ethical society the man is just out of luck and has to die? This would be preferable to the government just taking the rope and saving the man?
 

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Government unlike a person cannot(or will not) be held liable. A person can be charged and face responsibility for his acts, justified or not.

Government is rarely the answer...
 

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To be honest a scenario can be presented that places any system in a tough spot, it's about doing the least amount of harm overall...
 

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There is no perfect system, I just think we should err on the side of liberty and stop with all the coercion, force, and theft. :manny:
 
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