DetroitEWarren
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Thats why i said hops and creativity. I just have never been impressed with anything dude has ever done in the air. Not even a diss, but for ow he was hyped i expected a lot more wow factor
The rate of improvement in Andrew Wiggins game is mind boggling right now
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co-sign. all i see that clown mo williams do is run up the court and hoise up 3s. dude don't even try to run the offense.
THE MACHINE
night owl
He can play free in Minny. In Cleveland he would not have thrived with Kyrie and Waiters. Not to mention he would be coming of the bench in Cle. behind Bron. Not enough minutes to develop at the rapid rate he is now. Then he would have had to adjust again when going minute for minute against starters.
Wiggins and Okafor = Kobe and Shaq in 2015
I legit think that's what the T-Wolves GM had in mind, stockpile legit talent in the next few drafts.
Everyone who thought LeBron was going to stunt his growth can see how Wiggins is growing along with Shabazz and the rest of that team.
Both the Lakeshow and T-Wolves going to be in the WCF again in a few years.
Tanking doesn't work and I think Minnesota would be the latest squad to prove it if they chose to do so. When they get a top pick this year it'll probably be a big since they're so abundant. If the big pans out, they should move on from both Pek and K-Mart, clean out the cancerous players and go for underrated vets to build the team around Wiggins. If they continue to stockpile talent, they won't go anywhere, OKC is one of the very few teams it worked out for, but no one's really been able to do it and I don't expect any other team to be able to do that.
LeftCoast
All Star
ima fan now dude got game
Took a nationally televised game for you to see it huh 
I'm gonna say it now. I wouldn't trade Andrew Wiggins for any other player in the league right now. He's already scoring 20ppg without a handle. His defense is already there. And he's only 19 years old. Usually it takes players a summer to make the leap he made from november to december/january.
what will he look like after this summer?
what will he look like after this summer?
I'm gonna say it now. I wouldn't trade Andrew Wiggins for any other player in the league right now. He's already scoring 20ppg without a handle. His defense is already there. And he's only 19 years old. Usually it takes players a summer to make the leap he made from november to december/january.
what will he look like after this summer?
He dont even have his point guard. Think about that one. He been playing with Zach Lavine and that bum Mo Williams dishing the rock. He is 19 and his game already has shades of TMac. Dude gonna be a monster.
GM James gonna regret this one.
Good point but the thing that puzzles me the most about Wiggins is that his team is more or less solidly built with guys who can score and be useful on the court, relatively speaking. He doesn't have to go through that LeBron, AD, Wall, etc. process where his teammates are pretty much trash as fukk or complimentary players that have to be carried. He's being mentored into the role (supposedly K-Mart took him under his wing) which makes him stand out in my opinion.
GoddamnyamanProf
Countdown to Armageddon
Gerald Green still gets up higher than everyone.
have you seen the rest of the western conference? AD is stuck with a mediocre team compared to what the rest of the West has and that's far too much for him to overcome himself. not to mention he's somehow the fifth option on that team behind Evans, Holiday, Anderson, and Gordon(I'm not even joking), these guys don't even give him the ball in crunch time and instead the only chance he gets for a game winner is when he puts back one of Evans failed drives to the rim or one of his or Holiday's jump shots. Holiday is fine, but Evans is literally such a high usage fakkit that refuses to concede the offense to Davis even when he's struggling. Same shyt he did with the Kings, sure he can put up some nice stats at times with the ball always in his hands, but it rarely translate to winning.
As far as Wiggins goes, the guy already plays better defense than Love ever did and Love maxed out on what, 38 wins for his best year? Wiggins leading the Wolves will top that in 3 years, mark my words, as they get better young talent around him and Rubio/him gain some chemistry. The biggest gripe against Love was that he wasn't a legit #1 option and that was obvious with his time on the Wolves, even at their best and healthiest they weren't great with him as their best player. The same was true for Pau/Bosh(who are far and away better than Love), they just weren't cut out to be the best players on great teams, except with Love you get absolutely no defense or rim protection.
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Angela(Virginia) [via mobile]
Should the Cavs trade Kevin Love ? If so, who would they go after to replace him?
Chad Ford
(1:11 PM)
No. Not after they traded Andrew Wiggins to get him. They'd get pennies on the dollar for him. Love isn't the problem. The problem is that he's being used in a way that doesn't really play to his strengths. This is a coaching/personnel issue for Cleveland. They've made a couple of trades to hopeful fix the personnel issues. If JR Smith is going to hit shots, if Mosgov will protect the rim and if Shumpert, when he's healthy, can be an elite perimeter defender, things will get better for Love and everyone else. However, I'm with David Thorpe. I don't know in what world JR Smith, Timofey Mosgov and Iman Shumpert are the guys that turn a .500 team into a championship one. I think it's just a matter of time until David Blatt is sent packing. It's not his fault. He was a rookie coach in an impossible situation. But what's going on in Cleveland right now isn't working.
Alan (Minneapolis)
Wiggins looks promising, and Muhammad is no longer a bust. What's your opinion on the upside for them, Rubio, Dieng, Lavine (and Bennett?) plus a couple more high lottery picks? Who would help them the most from the 2015 class? And can the Wolves get anything for Young, Martin, Pekovic or Budinger besides shedding salary? Thanks.
Chad Ford
(1:14 PM)
I think this team is going to be really good in a couple of years. I think everyone gets better once Rubio is back on the floor. Now that we see Kevin Love floundering a bit without an elite point guard who knows how to get him the ball in the right spots, I think there's a new found appreciation for what Rubio brought to the table. I think he'll improve everyone's game when he returns. Wiggins is now averaging 20 ppg over his last 10 and is starting to look like the superstar we all thought he could be. Muhammed looks like the guy that was ranked as the No. 2 prospect in the country coming out of high school. Deing and LaVine also have bright futures. And the Wolves will add a very high draft pick to this squad. IF that's Jahlil Okafor or Karl Towns or Kristaps Porzingis (I'm guessing they'll go big) they'll have another stud in the line-up. It's a bright, bright future in Minnesota.
Ben (ny) [via mobile]
True or false, wiggins will be a better player than love by the end of his second year
Chad Ford
(1:14 PM)
False. But by his third year? I'm taking Wiggins.
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/51521/nba-insider-chad-ford
Should the Cavs trade Kevin Love ? If so, who would they go after to replace him?
Chad Ford
(1:11 PM)
No. Not after they traded Andrew Wiggins to get him. They'd get pennies on the dollar for him. Love isn't the problem. The problem is that he's being used in a way that doesn't really play to his strengths. This is a coaching/personnel issue for Cleveland. They've made a couple of trades to hopeful fix the personnel issues. If JR Smith is going to hit shots, if Mosgov will protect the rim and if Shumpert, when he's healthy, can be an elite perimeter defender, things will get better for Love and everyone else. However, I'm with David Thorpe. I don't know in what world JR Smith, Timofey Mosgov and Iman Shumpert are the guys that turn a .500 team into a championship one. I think it's just a matter of time until David Blatt is sent packing. It's not his fault. He was a rookie coach in an impossible situation. But what's going on in Cleveland right now isn't working.
Alan (Minneapolis)
Wiggins looks promising, and Muhammad is no longer a bust. What's your opinion on the upside for them, Rubio, Dieng, Lavine (and Bennett?) plus a couple more high lottery picks? Who would help them the most from the 2015 class? And can the Wolves get anything for Young, Martin, Pekovic or Budinger besides shedding salary? Thanks.
Chad Ford
(1:14 PM)
I think this team is going to be really good in a couple of years. I think everyone gets better once Rubio is back on the floor. Now that we see Kevin Love floundering a bit without an elite point guard who knows how to get him the ball in the right spots, I think there's a new found appreciation for what Rubio brought to the table. I think he'll improve everyone's game when he returns. Wiggins is now averaging 20 ppg over his last 10 and is starting to look like the superstar we all thought he could be. Muhammed looks like the guy that was ranked as the No. 2 prospect in the country coming out of high school. Deing and LaVine also have bright futures. And the Wolves will add a very high draft pick to this squad. IF that's Jahlil Okafor or Karl Towns or Kristaps Porzingis (I'm guessing they'll go big) they'll have another stud in the line-up. It's a bright, bright future in Minnesota.
Ben (ny) [via mobile]
True or false, wiggins will be a better player than love by the end of his second year
Chad Ford
(1:14 PM)
False. But by his third year? I'm taking Wiggins.
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/51521/nba-insider-chad-ford