THE PSA: Blaming hip hop

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Who owns the labels?


Who markets the content?

When they market the content does the positive content the same push as the destructive content? (If so/not, why)


Even before the inception of hip hop this system was still working to marginalize people of color........

Hip hop didn't break up the panthers

Hip hop didn't let drugs in the community

Hip hop didn't commit 500 + years of destruction in the form of slavery, war, miseducation, genocide.....

If one of you densley ignorant adults try and use hip hop as blame for black Americas ills you should be put on notice from this point forward as a clown


:mjlol:

It's 2015.. This should be a well known fact from this point forward

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Apart from producing the music, Black folks arent really involved with rap. We are not the target market, we are not the business end of things. Our image is used to make it look legit, but we dont control rap.
 

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There is zero evidence to support the idea that rap has DONE anything to Black people.

For people who let numbers and stats rule their lives, all the numbers and stats point in the other direction.
Since the inception of rap music and the advent of the vapid, misogynistic, materialistic, criminal minded shiny suit gangster era we've actually seen our conditions improve.

Decline in the crime across the board, decrease in teen pregnancy, higher graduation rates, etc.

Is it because rap is an outlet for these feelings? Much like going to an action movie or reading a comic book? Or is it because it gives young disenfranchised minorities an activity other than standing on a corner? Or because it gives them an entrepreneurial framework to legally operate in?

Who knows.

Just be aware that these same clowns would have had the same comments about Jazz music in the 1920's and Rock music in the 40's/50's and Funk in the 60's/70's.

These critiques are really just a reflection of how they view themselves and their overall submission to white supremacy.
 

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Nas & Wu told me The World is Yours/ Its Yours.

BIG told me "everything you get you for to work hard for it" & "sky's the limit."

Jay told me "all us Blacks got is sports and entertainment, until we even... Can't knock the way a playa eating, fukk you even."

These were empowering messages to hear as a teenager.

The respectability politics crowd doesn't like that though. They want you to swear fealty to YT Jesus and stay in your place. Suffer and smile and wait for a handout. Maybe if you pull your pants up and keep your hands clean a crumb will fall off your masters table.

Hip Hop at its roots is a massive fukk off to all of that. It's all about showing and proving and using skills to pay the bills.

At least it was and could be.
 

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Who owns the labels?


Who markets the content?

When they market the content does the positive content the same push as the destructive content? (If so/not, why)


Even before the inception of hip hop this system was still working to marginalize people of color........

Hip hop didn't break up the panthers

Hip hop didn't let drugs in the community

Hip hop didn't commit 500 + years of destruction in the form of slavery, war, miseducation, genocide.....

If one of you densley ignorant adults try and use hip hop as blame for black Americas ills you should be put on notice from this point forward as a clown


:mjlol:

It's 2015.. This should be a well known fact from this point forward

@Emperor_ReinScarf @Napoleon

@ModernFonzie

Why do people blame the record labels when its the rapper that has to makes the music first, before he actually gets signed....

bobby didn't get signed because he brought a business plan outlining his "vision" or as they say,"art" to the record label.....

a record label is a business, if something is successful within that sector of course they are going to invest in it

its up to the people who create to change the "final piece" (also up to the consumers )

no one is blaming hip hop for everything

all gangster rappers have expiry dates

i mess with 50 cent more than any other rapper,but I look forward to his business moves than his music(unless its records like changes etc):yeshrug:

Im a hypocrite because I love the fukkery:ehh: but I know the difference between "being about that life" and "being about life",sadly some people don't,some will realize in time and some will forever be lost
 

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From this point on we will put all the blind fools on blast in this thread


On some hip hop made me do it shyt
 

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Apart from producing the music, Black folks arent really involved with rap. We are not the target market, we are not the business end of things. Our image is used to make it look legit, but we dont control rap.

Come on breh we can't keep making these excuses. We're definitely partly to blame.
 

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Rap music is to African-Americans what Baile Funk is for Brazilians living in favelas, what Kwaito is to South Africans living in townships or Grime to English brehs living in rough housing estates : a reflection of a state of mind, a consequence of their environment. Blaming it or taking it away won't solve any problem but stripping those people of a way of expressing themselves or their ability to have some sort of catharsis.

The root of their issue is socio-economical more than anything. Fix poverty and you'll fix rap.
 
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