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:blessed: Based Durante.

recommends using SGSSAA

Dark Souls 2 PC tweak guide | PC Gamer

However, there is another, even better option (than downsampling) for those of you with Nvidia graphics cards. I discovered a “compatibility flag” which works with Dark Souls 2 and enables the use of any level of SGSSAA (2x, 4x and 8x). In order to perform this tweak, you need to get Nvidia Inspector and set up the Dark Souls 2 profile as shown here:



It may be slightly confusing to select numbers associated with other games such as Diablo 3 and Demigod here, but all it means is that what Dark Souls 2 does in regard to rendering is similar enough to what these games do for that particular “hack” to work. Here are the specific steps you need to perform for Inspector-based tweaking in Dark Souls 2 (as annotated in the image):

  1. If it is not already there, add “darksoulsII.exe” to the list of executables associated with this profile, by clicking the icon with the small green “+”.
  2. [Only if you want to use HBAO+, see the next part of the article] Enter “0x0000001F” in the “Ambient occlusion compatibility” field.
  3. Enter “0x004412C1” in the “Antialiasing compatibility” field.
  4. Select “Override any application setting” as the “Antialiasing – Mode”, and select your desired level of SGSSAA in both the “Antialiasing – Setting” and “Antialiasing – Transparency Supersampling” fields. Higher levels are higher quality, but also cause a larger performance hit.
  5. [Optional] If you want to force full anisotropic filtering on all textures in the game, you may do so here.
  6. [Only if you want to use HBAO+, see the next part of the article] Set “Ambient Occlusion Setting” to “Quality”.
Better Image Quality in Motion
I previously described the drawbacks of the post-processing antialiasing method used in the game, but concepts like temporal stability and sub-pixel structures might appear quite abstract without an example. The following animation shows the difference on some swaying grass, which is an example of a thin structure in motion. To make the distinction more obvious, the image is scaled by a factor of 2 in both dimensions.

Note how the in-game anti-aliasing does not work well in this use case, causing flickering and image instability, while 4xSGSSAA handles the situation perfectly. AMD users need not fret, downsampling from a sufficiently high resolution can achieve similarly good results.


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Durante said:
Actually, SGSSAA is better than a resolution increase, at the same number of total rendered samples.
 

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I finally scooped up Stalker - SoC

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my mouse is dead, i think the laser sensor if fukked.
it will work fine for a few seconds then it is unresponsive or very sluggish.

this is what i had:
Anker 8200 DPI High Precision Laser Gaming Mouse

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good mouse, i really liked having the programmable buttons for my thumb.
i'm thinking about copping another one but was wondering if anyone could suggest some.
 

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if anyone could suggest some.

logitech just based off their warranty service. they replaced my g400 twice, no questions asked, even though it was probably my fault for dropping it all the time. for the second replacement I got a g400s :win:
 

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And still keep 60fps?

And I don't know how people say downscaling looks better. I did it with state of decay and it made it look worse IMO. Unless I was doing something wrong.
Well that's largely dependent on what graphical settings you have. I don't have the game to test but on my card, a 7870 I can play some games downscaled at 1440P and still maintain 60fps but that again depends on lots of variables. I hear this tool has a nice Bokeh DOF effect for DS2.

But since you have a Nvidia card, you can apply SGSSAA to your games. Only thing with SGSSAA I've heard is that it's implementation varies on a game by game basis. OGSSAA(Downsampling) works with virtually every game with some exceptions.

For screenshots I heard downsampling is better but for playing SGSSAA is as good. As an AMD user, I don't think AMD cards have SGSSAA support. :yeshrug: I believe downsampling is equivalent to OGSSAA.
Edit: Downsampling IS OGSSAA.
 
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my mouse is dead, i think the laser sensor if fukked.
it will work fine for a few seconds then it is unresponsive or very sluggish.

this is what i had:
Anker 8200 DPI High Precision Laser Gaming Mouse

2e68.jpg
vpxe.jpg


good mouse, i really liked having the programmable buttons for my thumb.
i'm thinking about copping another one but was wondering if anyone could suggest some.
I'm a big fan of high end Logitechs too. They don't make mine anymore, but the new high end ones get great reviews

If you're going all out, get that $115 razer one (:wow:)

DO NOT get a R.A.T. I had 2 break on me.
 

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I'm a big fan of high end Logitechs too. They don't make mine anymore, but the new high end ones get great reviews

If you're going all out, get that $115 razer one (:wow:)

DO NOT get a R.A.T. I had 2 break on me.


i just re-bought the one that died.
it lasted me a year and i really liked it.

thanks for the suggestion though.
 

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Well that's largely dependent on what graphical settings you have. I don't have the game to test but on my card, a 7870 I can play some games downscaled at 1440P and still maintain 60fps but that again depends on lots of variables. I hear this tool has a nice Bokeh DOF effect for DS2.

But since you have a Nvidia card, you can apply SGSSAA to your games. Only thing with SGSSAA I've heard is that it's implementation varies on a game by game basis. OGSSAA(Downsampling) works with virtually every game with some exceptions.

For screenshots I heard downsampling is better but for playing SGSSAA is as good. As an AMD user, I don't think AMD cards have SGSSAA support. :yeshrug: I believe downsampling is equivalent to OGSSAA.
Edit: Downsampling IS OGSSAA.
what I take away from all this is that it isn't a "bad port", but it could be a lot better. IMO the 'average user' shouldn't have overhead for SGSSAA and/or downsampling in a 2014 PC game (at least as far as a game of this 'caliber'). hopefully this will be one of the last weak-sauce dx9 'last gen' ports
 

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what I take away from all this is that it isn't a "bad port", but it could be a lot better. IMO the 'average user' shouldn't have overhead for SGSSAA and/or downsampling in a 2014 PC game (at least as far as a game of this 'caliber'). hopefully this will be one of the last weak-sauce dx9 'last gen' ports

Yeah the game is fun, but some of the graphics are just ugly/outdated. Definitely doesn't look like a 2014 AAA game.
 
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