The Official UEFA Euro 2012 Thread

Who will win?


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Gilver

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Another theory of course is the Man Utd theory. Man Utd, who only lost the league on goal difference this season are a massively english team, so i'm not sure why we see all these cloggers from other clubs like Liverpool making their way into the team.

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Jones--Rio--Smalling--LB

RW-Carrick-Scholes-Young

------Rooney---Welbeck---

Would be good enough to beat any italian team on it's day, why not good enough to beat Italy? :yeshrug:

Best national teams are one club side heavy tbf
 

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What are they to do with service from the likes of Parker? And the hollywood balls from gerrard.

Imagine scholes and carrick supplying them like they do for United. Simple and effective, bring out the hollywood only when needed.

For all the pirlo wanking scholes could have done exactly what he did last night, assuming he was given 100 yards of space every time he got the ball like we gave Pirlo.


With Carrick and Scholes in midfield we at least would have had 50% possession rather than -7% or whatever it was.
 

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Let's not play the who's angry game. It gets boring rather quick.


I'm just saying, for all the laughing you're presumably doing sitting looking at the screen, it doesn't seem to be translating to the keyboard.

It's like, we're out, and people are still mad? C'mon brehs, enjoy the moment. Let the bitterness in your hearts fuel your joy.
The ol "haters" defence.

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It's a whole other issue.

It's not just the coaching, it's the rules and regulation around them.

English teams have been restricted for a long time by how much they can train their academy players at the most crucial points of their development.

I can't remember the exact figures but it's something like we can only train youth players(like 8-15 year olds or something like that) for 6 hours a week. Where as clubs around europe can train their kids as much as they like.

We've also been restricted by the '90 minute rule' which states your youth players have to live within 90 minute travelling distance from your clubs training ground/academy. Again, in places like spain this isn't the case.

The argument can be made that it helps smaller clubs keep their best youth products until they are old enough to get a decent fee for them, which can be crucial for smaller clubs in helping them simply keep afloat as a business and not folding in on themselves. But on the other hand these promising youngsters at the smaller clubs will be seriously hindered in their development without the best facilities/coaching. Which in the bigger picture doesn't help the national team, we're robbed of what with these best facilities and coaches, could have been a world class player.

The good news is clubs like Man Utd have lead the charge to get these rules changed, Ferguson has spoken about it on a few occasions. I'm almost certain the 90 minute rules is definitely being abolished, not entirely sure on the training time allowed etc.

fukk you small clubs, United are gonna rob your 10 year olds and make them world class. La Masia level stuff it will be, get ready world :ahh:
Good information. I did not know about those practice restrictions. How did they come about?
 

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no amount of service was going to save Ashley Young from getting found out. In fact, its better that he did not since most of the attention was on Milner fukking up.

Also this is another tournament where Roonz didnt show up. If we gonna knock Messi down a peg for not balling for Argentina in tournaments, Roonz gonna have to take a step down a level too.
 

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Another theory of course is the Man Utd theory. Man Utd, who only lost the league on goal difference this season are a massively english team, so i'm not sure why we see all these cloggers from other clubs like Liverpool making their way into the team.

------------GK-------------

Jones--Rio--Smalling--LB

RW-Carrick-Scholes-Young

------Rooney---Welbeck---

Would be good enough to beat any italian team on it's day, why not good enough to beat Italy? :yeshrug:

Best national teams are one club side heavy tbf
How did Utd do in Europe last season then? :skip:
 

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no amount of service was going to save Ashley Young from getting found out. In fact, its better that he did not since most of the attention was on Milner fukking up.

Also this is another tournament where Roonz didnt show up. If we gonna knock Messi down a peg for not balling for Argentina in tournaments, Roonz gonna have to take a step down a level too.

It's hard to show up as a player that thrives on possession of the ball when you play for england.

Young is decent to good, i've never claimed anything more.
 

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About as good as chelsea did in the league.

Ooooh, this exchange is off to a thrilling start :bow:

Best national teams are one club side heavy tbf

Bayern, Barca/Madrid all excelling in Europe.

Utd couldn't get out of a group that had Benfica, Basle and Otelul Galati. Then beaten humiliated twice by Bilbao.

Using the Man Utd theory things would get even worse than they are now. :skip:
 

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The ol "i've got nothing, i'll just say he's mad" post.

We're having such a good time.
ok next time if something comedic i'll post very nice smileys so you can understand better ok? :hug:
 

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Same team minus 2 players got to the final a year earlier. And won the league.

And we'll finish higher than chelsea again this year. Probably get further in the cl as well. :manny:
 

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Same team minus 2 players got to the final a year earlier. And won the league.

And we'll finish higher than chelsea again this year. Probably get further in the cl as well. :manny:

Well it's not Euro 2011.

And wasn't that team spanked in the final anyway?

Simply no incentive to have a core of Utd players in the national team I'm afraid. Nowhere near enough talent really.

Phil Jones and Ashley Young ffs :heh:
 

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Well it's not Euro 2011.

And wasn't that team spanked in the final anyway?

Simply no incentive to have a core of Utd players in the national team I'm afraid. Nowhere near enough talent really.

Phil Jones and Ashley Young ffs :heh:

Future England captain and a solid winger.:ehh:

Scholes and Carrick>>>any other english cm combo.

Lampard getting injured was one of the biggest blessings we had this tournament tbf.

Imagine that mug plodding about, one of the most tactically unaware players i've ever seen. And usually when that's the case the player is at least athletic and able to make up for that fact. But Lampard:snoop:
 
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