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Nah man a lot of places will be skirting the law, I know that for a fact.
i feel really bad for my homie who bought a retail space for a service business and is now sitting with a hefty mortgage

i seen dudes pics today and he looks like he aged 40 years in 1 month
 

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9:35 p.m.: The Toronto Caribbean Carnival is being cancelled due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

The festival’s board of directors says that “the priority must be the health and safety of our patrons … and there is no choice but to cancel this year’s festival.”

The festival, formerly known as Caribana, has been held for 52 years. The events planned for this July and August included the Junior King and Queen Show, Junior Parade, Adult King and Queen Show, Pan Alive and the grand finale, the Grand Parade.

The festival board said “the mass crowds that attend the events present a tremendous risk regarding the spread of the virus.”
 

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Pretty much full remote now. Just go in once a week to do deposits and shyt. Been weird seeing downtown as a desert though. How you holding up.

its tough
hospital is eerie its so quiet as most units have shut down. ICU is jam packed though and you can tell staff who work in icu the morale is low. We've got a bunch of free stuff like pizza pizza last friday, today costco gave us like 5,000 granola bars. No visitors, everyone is wearing masks, we have like 25 covid patients at one of our sites. Two assessment centres up and running. Downtown is dead, when i go home to the burbs its like business as usual alot of cars on streets etc.

Transit is dead as well, don't know how ttc is making money (like they don't even check if you pay because you enter from the rear doors) . I took the train yesterday and literally it was just like 15 people on the whole train and like half were homeless people just sleeping .

I don't know how much longer many people can survive. The 2k a month cerb etc is great but can that cover rent/food etc.?

I notice i get no spam calls anymore i guess even those damn roofing and carpet places are closed :heh:.
 

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its tough
hospital is eerie its so quiet as most units have shut down. ICU is jam packed though and you can tell staff who work in icu the morale is low. We've got a bunch of free stuff like pizza pizza last friday, today costco gave us like 5,000 granola bars. No visitors, everyone is wearing masks, we have like 25 covid patients at one of our sites. Two assessment centres up and running. Downtown is dead, when i go home to the burbs its like business as usual alot of cars on streets etc.

Transit is dead as well, don't know how ttc is making money (like they don't even check if you pay because you enter from the rear doors) . I took the train yesterday and literally it was just like 15 people on the whole train and like half were homeless people just sleeping .

I don't know how much longer many people can survive. The 2k a month cerb etc is great but can that cover rent/food etc.?

I notice i get no spam calls anymore i guess even those damn roofing and carpet places are closed :heh:.
I think the TTC is mostly fair revenues, this would cause a huge drop.
 

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Hopefully Quebec and ontario numbers go dow
 

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its tough
hospital is eerie its so quiet as most units have shut down. ICU is jam packed though and you can tell staff who work in icu the morale is low. We've got a bunch of free stuff like pizza pizza last friday, today costco gave us like 5,000 granola bars. No visitors, everyone is wearing masks, we have like 25 covid patients at one of our sites. Two assessment centres up and running. Downtown is dead, when i go home to the burbs its like business as usual alot of cars on streets etc.

Transit is dead as well, don't know how ttc is making money (like they don't even check if you pay because you enter from the rear doors) . I took the train yesterday and literally it was just like 15 people on the whole train and like half were homeless people just sleeping .

I don't know how much longer many people can survive. The 2k a month cerb etc is great but can that cover rent/food etc.?

I notice i get no spam calls anymore i guess even those damn roofing and carpet places are closed :heh:.
I bet. Are you switching out of masks multiple times a day?

Seems like everyone is driving now. Since this started I've been going into the office 1 or twice a week and I've noticed the traffic has been increasing. No gridlock or anything, time is the same, just the volume of cars seems to be more. Can see why TTC is empty or even the GO. My GO line has removed trains completely and the timeslots that are actually running they have reduced the amount of cars by like half. Crazy.

Yeah, people will have to adjust, will be tough. So getting the 8K for the full 16 weeks you still need to set aside about $1200 or so for tax.

And yep not a call from my usual Duct cleaning guys from India, they been hella quiet :pachaha:
 

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Hopefully Quebec and ontario numbers go dow

wonder what testing numbers are like for each province.

I see so many people not practicing social distancing here it’s infuriating. My neighbours are out like 10 times a day. Got the crib packed. I wonder if the landlord knows that his tenants got the crib rammed.
 

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its tough
hospital is eerie its so quiet as most units have shut down. ICU is jam packed though and you can tell staff who work in icu the morale is low. We've got a bunch of free stuff like pizza pizza last friday, today costco gave us like 5,000 granola bars. No visitors, everyone is wearing masks, we have like 25 covid patients at one of our sites. Two assessment centres up and running. Downtown is dead, when i go home to the burbs its like business as usual alot of cars on streets etc.

Transit is dead as well, don't know how ttc is making money (like they don't even check if you pay because you enter from the rear doors) . I took the train yesterday and literally it was just like 15 people on the whole train and like half were homeless people just sleeping .

I don't know how much longer many people can survive. The 2k a month cerb etc is great but can that cover rent/food etc.?

I notice i get no spam calls anymore i guess even those damn roofing and carpet places are closed :heh:.
I'm avoiding ttc because of this... Last time I was on in march it was a nightmare because the homeless have taken over and as soon as I literally walked in some dude starts coughing mouth open all over the place.

I said fukk this... I'm surprised the shelters are not doing numbers
 

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Seems like a lot of confusion around testing. Sounds like Doug Ford wants more tests to happen but those on the front lines are conserving supplies (as I had assumed). They gotta get on the same page. More below.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toro...ting-assessment-centres-coronavirus-1.5527454


Testing at Ontario's COVID-19 assessment centres slows to a trickle
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  • Mike Crawley · CBC News · Posted: Apr 09, 2020 12:57 PM ET | Last Updated: an hour ago

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    Front-line health-care staff conduct drive-through COVID-19 testing at a specially built facility near Etobicoke General Hospital in Toronto. (Evan Mitsui/CBC)
    Ontario's COVID-19 assessment centres are mostly empty, with only a handful of people showing up to be tested each day, according to research by CBC News.

    The province's hospitals established at least 68 assessment centres last month to screen for the coronavirus, yet medical professionals have been dissuading all but the highest-priority cases from going there because of limited testing equipment.

    Even when people with COVID-19 symptoms get an official referral for testing, the centres refused to test 25 per cent to 30 per cent of those who showed up this past week, according to figures provided by the Ministry of Health.

    It's raising questions about how quickly Ontario will boost its testing rate to 13,000 per day as demanded by Premier Doug Ford on Wednesday. The province reported 4,097 new test results Thursday.

    "The shortage of actual test swabs is dire and widespread," said Helen Hsu, a physician working at an assessment centre in Ottawa.

    Hsu said that assessment centre is no longer using the most-effective type of swabs to take a sample, known as nasopharyngeal swabs, which reach deep into the back of the nasal cavity. Instead, the centre is using throat swabs, which Hsu says have lower sensitivity to the virus and a higher rate of false negatives.

    "These swabs are far from perfect," she said. "If [patients] get a negative test result, they should not assume they are in the clear and stop social isolation."

    CBC News has repeatedly asked the Ministry of Health to provide data on how many people are being tested at the assessment centres daily and how many are being turned away, but officials have yet to provide that information.

    When assessment centres were first set up in mid-March, lineups and long waits were reported. But that has changed.

    "At some of the assessment centres, for one reason or another, the volume hasn't been there," said Ford during his Thursday news conference, but offered no details.

    Priority cases expanded
    Since they were launched, the assessment centres were ordered — if they have shortages of testing supplies — to give priority to health-care workers and people from remote communities.

    Each assessment centre is responsible for reporting any shortages to Public Health Ontario (PHO), said Travis Kann, director of communications for Health Minister Christine Elliott.


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    Ontario expanded its testing capacity for COVID-19 by using private lab facilities, so the province can now process 13,000 tests per day. However, the number of tests being conducted each day across Ontario has fallen well below that figure. (Darryl Dyck/The Canadian Press)
    "As of this morning, no critical shortages have been reported. If one were, PHO would quickly ship additional swabs to ensure testing continues uninterrupted," Kann said Thursday in an email to CBC News."We are confident that we have the supplies needed to support expanded testing."

    The province expanded testing priorities on Thursday to include "symptomatic first responders" and "individuals referred for testing by local public health."

    Other cases previously designated by the province as a testing priority included hospital in-patients, along with residents of long-term care centres and retirement homes, but it is unclear that those cases would be tested at assessment centres.

    Turned away despite symptoms
    Dozens of people have contacted CBC News to describe their experiences of being rejected for testing at the assessment centres despite showing symptoms.

    Diane Mossman, 77, said she was given an appointment Wednesday for the assessment centre at Michael Garron Hospital in Toronto after reporting symptoms of cough, difficulty taking deep breaths, extreme fatigue and mild fever.


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    Premier Doug Ford said 'no more excuses' Wednesday as he ordered officials to boost Ontario's COVID-19 testing to 13,000 per day. The province reported just shy of 4,100 new test results on Thursday. (Frank Gunn/The Canadian Press)
    "There was no line-up. Only one person was ahead of me and almost finished. There was no one waiting to be seen after me," Mossman said in an email.

    Three health-care workers screened her before she saw a doctor, who Mossman says was apologetic but told her she didn't meet the criteria for testing, despite her symptoms.

    "I was so stunned to hear this and to realize that I couldn't have the test, that I didn't ask more questions," said Mossman.

    "I'm distressed at this situation. I've never felt this kind of sickness before, and I'm worried that I do have COVID."

    During his Thursday news conference, Ford was asked if he could guarantee that members of the public will not be turned away if they show up at assessment centres with symptoms of COVID-19.


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    An intake nurse waits for patients at the COVID-19 testing centre in Toronto. (Frank Gunn/The Canadian Press)
    "If they have symptoms, they should be tested," Ford said. "We want to test as many people as possible right across this province."

    Assessment centres have varying rules about getting tested: many require a referral from a health-care professional, while some allow walk-ins to be screened.

    "It is up to a physician and their clinical assessment of a patient to determine whether a test in necessary," said Kann.

    One sign of how narrowly Ontario is testing for the coronavirus: the percentage of positive tests is tracking far higher than in the rest of Canada.

    Over the past week, 11.4 per cent of Ontario's newly reported tests have shown a confirmed case of COVID-19. Excluding Ontario, just 4.8 per cent of tests conducted in the rest of the country have come back as positive since testing began in January, according to data from the Public Health Agency of Canada.
 

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I bet. Are you switching out of masks multiple times a day?

Seems like everyone is driving now. Since this started I've been going into the office 1 or twice a week and I've noticed the traffic has been increasing. No gridlock or anything, time is the same, just the volume of cars seems to be more. Can see why TTC is empty or even the GO. My GO line has removed trains completely and the timeslots that are actually running they have reduced the amount of cars by like half. Crazy.

Yeah, people will have to adjust, will be tough. So getting the 8K for the full 16 weeks you still need to set aside about $1200 or so for tax.

And yep not a call from my usual Duct cleaning guys from India, they been hella quiet :pachaha:

We only get two masks a day at work, everyone is screened as they enter the hospital and they scan your badge :heh:
 

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The problem is, there’s a lot of confusion about who is eligible and who isn’t — creating a scenario where thousands have money unexpectedly clawed back a year from now.



And this is going to be a big issue down the road, because one of the requirements is that you haven't received employment income between march 15th to april 11th I think(for the 1st 4 week period). But i can only assume everyone got at least 1 more pay cheque late match before or after getting laid off.

On the news they only tell us when we can apply but they didnt stress to us about the 4 week pay periods to when we are 100% eligible to apply without problem. Especially here at air canada where a great portion of us in the group chats said we got our first cerb deposit, despite getting paid april 1st, and expecting one more pay cheque april 15th(which is the 2nd 4 week period)

I hope I'm reading it right, if I am then that means air canada employees who were laid off april 1st means they arent eligible for the cerb until at least may 12th i think. Which makes no sense because how do they expect anyone to go a month and a half with only 1 pay cheque

:jbhmm::patrice:
 
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