The Official Toronto Discussion Thread

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Nah, that's not how it works. BoC is independent as it should be.

Fair enough so then we can't pin house prices oil prices and inflation on Trudeau when these things have been trending up consistently in years. Or when inflation is a global crisis post pandemic. I have no problem with People calling him out but I'm not seeing the receipts for shyt he has done to affect their actual lives in 8 years. Let's see some real criticism. People in here been shytting on him for shyt Ford did in the pandemic and so forth. It's why it's disingenuous to discuss politics with folks who just want to tow party lines.

Ontario conservatives have been enthralled in scandals and corruption openly and it has been silent in here. There was never silence about the corruption of the Ontario liberals from our Canadian posters. I see the contrast in the posts and it tells a tale.

 

[Food Mane]

Fair enough so then we can't pin house prices oil prices and inflation on Trudeau when these things have been trending up consistently in years. Or when inflation is a global crisis post pandemic. I have no problem with People calling him out but I'm not seeing the receipts for shyt he has done to affect their actual lives in 8 years. Let's see some real criticism. People in here been shytting on him.for shyt Ford did in the pandemic and so forth. It's why it's disingenuous to discuss politics with folks who just want to toe party lines

We can definitely put inflationary spending on the federal gov. Think about this: a family that renewed their mortgage at a higher interest rate this year but is now accessing subsidized childcare and canada child benefit is probably coming out about equal. I'm not saying those are bad policies. I think they are both actually very good, but we should acknowledge they are inflationary. The BoC is trying to suck extra money out of the economy and the federal gov is pumping extra money into it. Not exactly ideal.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

We can definitely put inflationary spending on the federal gov. Think about this: a family that renewed their mortgage at a higher interest rate this year but is now accessing subsidized childcare and canada child benefit is probably coming out about equal. I'm not saying those are bad policies. I think they are both actually very good, but we should acknowledge they are inflationary. The BoC is trying to suck extra money out of the economy and the federal gov is pumping extra money into it. Not exactly ideal.

And that's again fair points raised that are insightful on how you conclude that the feds are responsible.
Overall even if indirectly. Absolutely no issue with informed viewpoints. That's what's missing in here.
Now in the current climate do you think that another party would have reacted differently to this situation?

 

[Food Mane]

And that's again fair points raised that are insightful on how you conclude that the feds are responsible.
Overall even if indirectly. Absolutely no issue with informed viewpoints. That's what's missing in here.
Now in the current climate do you think that another party would have reacted differently to this situation?

Maybe the conservatives would have spent a little less, but overall no.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

We can definitely put inflationary spending on the federal gov. Think about this: a family that renewed their mortgage at a higher interest rate this year but is now accessing subsidized childcare and canada child benefit is probably coming out about equal. I'm not saying those are bad policies. I think they are both actually very good, but we should acknowledge they are inflationary. The BoC is trying to suck extra money out of the economy and the federal gov is pumping extra money into it. Not exactly ideal.

While Ottawa's COVID-19 spending played a small role in driving inflation higher, it also created excess demand that the Bank of Canada is trying to curb by increasing the cost of borrowing, the Scotiabank economists argue.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-ottawa-covid-19-spending-impact-interest-rates/#:~:text=While%20Ottawa's%20COVID%2D19%20spending,borrowing%2C%20the%20Scotiabank%20economists%20argue.

However, I see no better way to address a once in a century pandemic other than through Keynesian counter cyclical spending to fend off a depression.

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

Across Canada, 7 provinces are run by right-leaning parties with majority governments (AB, SK, ON, QC, NB, NS, PEI) who control:

• Education
• Housing
• Healthcare
• Natural resources
• Property and civil rights
• And municipalities are “creatures of the province”
• etc

And the partisan conservatives in this thread staunchly believe their conservative premiers are beyond reproach.

Doug Ford nearly gave $8 billion worth of land to his friends and crickets…

We are doomed

 

[SwizzLake]

Across Canada, 7 provinces are run by right-leaning parties with majority governments (AB, SK, ON, QC, NB, NS, PEI) who control:

• Education
• Housing
• Healthcare
• Natural resources
• Property and civil rights
• And municipalities are “creatures of the province”
• etc

And the partisan conservatives in this thread staunchly believe their conservative premiers are beyond reproach.

Doug Ford nearly gave $8 billion worth of land to his friends and crickets…

We are doomed

Ontario and elsewhere in Canada is in housing crisis, it is the single most pressing issue. What makes the situation is even worse is the Federal government to dumb another 500k of immigrants that require housing in our cities, but not enough housing are being built, the Greenbelt needs to be opened for development of new housings, but the liberals are refusing that, they rather see poor Africans that they brought to Canada, sleep in the streets of Toronto, so that they can beg them for shelter.

Who is responsible for immigration? it falls under the federal government.

 

[85 East]

Ontario and elsewhere in Canada is in housing crisis, it is the single most pressing issue. What makes the situation is even worse is the Federal government to dumb another 500k of immigrants that require housing in our cities, but not enough housing are being built, the Greenbelt needs to be opened for development of new housings, but the liberals are refusing that, they rather see poor Africans that they brought to Canada, sleep in the streets of Toronto, so that they can beg them for shelter.

Who is responsible for immigration? it falls under the federal government.

We need those immigrants, and if we could develop the rest if this country, instead if trying to cram everyone into the GTA, we would have a way better country and economy.

I'm going to let some of y'all in on a huge secret Asian countries haven't admitted openly yet, but will within the next 20 years, they need mass immigration to survive. China, Japan, Korea are all fukked if they don't allow hordes of immigrants. When you sell more adult diapers then baby diapers, your economy is all but finished...

We need immigrants to survive.

 

[SwizzLake]

We need those immigrants, and if we could develop the rest if this country, instead if trying to cram everyone into the GTA, we would have a way better country and economy.

I'm going to let some of y'all in on a huge secret Asian countries haven't admitted openly yet, but will within the next 20 years, they need mass immigration to survive. China, Japan, Korea are all fukked if they don't allow hordes of immigrants. When you sell more adult diapers then baby diapers, your economy is all but finished...

We need immigrants to survive.

You know very well that all these immigrants they bring to Canada are coming to the GTA, few head over to Vancouver/MTL and that's about it.

Canadians are the ones that end up taking the L, not enough housings for them, can't afford a house.

 

[85 East]

You know very well that all these immigrants they bring to Canada are coming to the GTA, few head over to Vancouver/MTL and that's about it.

Canadians are the ones that end up taking the L, not enough housings for them, can't afford a house.

And we're not having babies. If we don't have babies or immigrants, we don't have pension. We don't have an economy in a few years.

If your country has a natural birthrate less then 2.1 per couple, you need immigrants.

 

[SNG]

Across Canada, 7 provinces are run by right-leaning parties with majority governments (AB, SK, ON, QC, NB, NS, PEI) who control:

• Education
• Housing
• Healthcare
• Natural resources
• Property and civil rights
• And municipalities are “creatures of the province”
• etc

And the partisan conservatives in this thread staunchly believe their conservative premiers are beyond reproach.

Doug Ford nearly gave $8 billion worth of land to his friends and crickets…

We are doomed

Me and my girl were talking about how it is absolute trash being middle class here. You’re better off being poor all the gst checks and shyt the government will give you. My fiancés brother is does coke every weekend and has 4 kids and living in a 4 bedroom townhouse paying 500 a month and his lady getting disability, unemployment, baby bonus, gst, hat all types of shyt.

Meanwhile you got middle class nikkaz working 2-3 jobs and still can’t find a pot to piss in. Rob Ford helping his homies just makes me think about the tax breaks these cocksuckers get.

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

You know very well that all these immigrants they bring to Canada are coming to the GTA, few head over to Vancouver/MTL and that's about it.

Canadians are the ones that end up taking the L, not enough housings for them, can't afford a house.

Tbh nobody would care about immigration if the immigrants weren’t like 85 percent indians lol

Feds had no choice..birth rate low

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

Tbh nobody would care about immigration if the immigrants weren’t like 85 percent indians lol

Feds had no choice..birth rate low

Immigration to Canada 2023:
IRCC unveils the top 10 source countries of new immigrants to Canada in 2022 | CIC News

1. India (118, 095 immigrants) – 27%
2. China (31,815 immigrants) - 7.2%
3. Afghanistan (23,735 immigrants) – 5.4%
4. Nigeria (22,085 immigrants) – 5.05%
5. Philippines (22,070 immigrants) – 5.04%
6. France (14,145 immigrants) – 3.2%
7. Pakistan (11,585 immigrants) – 2.6%
8. Iran (11,105 immigrants) – 2.5%
9. United States of America (10,400 immigrants) – 2.3%
10. Syria (8,500 immigrants) – 1.9%

Excluding foreign students, TFWs etc. who aren’t immigrants

 

[Instant Classic]

Across Canada, 7 provinces are run by right-leaning parties with majority governments (AB, SK, ON, QC, NB, NS, PEI) who control:

• Education
• Housing
• Healthcare
• Natural resources
• Property and civil rights
• And municipalities are “creatures of the province”
• etc

And the partisan conservatives in this thread staunchly believe their conservative premiers are beyond reproach.

Doug Ford nearly gave $8 billion worth of land to his friends and crickets…

We are doomed

It's crazy this man wasnt forced to resign after that. I felt if that happened in any other country he would be forced to resign

 

[Jefferson Jackson]

@Malcolmxxx_23 bro is just living his best life