The Official Toronto Discussion Thread

[MikelArteta]

Harper was known for running deficit spending even after the 2008 housing crisis, and we also slipped into another recession before he left office. Man was terrible.

Harper won three elections
Lowered taxes
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[Nomad1]

Harper won three elections
Lowered taxes
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He won 3 elections because the Federal Liberals were riddled with scandals that set them back years. But if yall love a man that ruined the economy, spent money like he was NDP on steroids, brought us into a recession, introduced mandatory minimums (better not hear no pro black shyt from none of you nikkas from here on out )

Didn't know there were actual Conservative voters, that's insane.

 

[Tom Foolery]

Harper was known for running deficit spending even after the 2008 housing crisis, and we also slipped into another recession before he left office. Man was terrible.

Trudeau spends 2-3 times more and we have nothing to show for it.

Actually we have even less now.

 

[Nomad1]

Trudeau spends 2-3 times more and we have nothing to show for it.

Actually we have even less now.

Large amounts of spending happened under COVID, which he obviously has to do. At least Trudeau introduced good social programs, spent a lot of money on infrastructure, what the fukk did Harper do?

 

[MikelArteta]

He won 3 elections because the Federal Liberals were riddled with scandals that set them back years. But if yall love a man that ruined the economy, spent money like he was NDP on steroids, brought us into a recession, introduced mandatory minimums (better not hear no pro black shyt from none of you nikkas from here on out )

Didn't know there were actual Conservative voters, that's insane.

can't wait till the pc are in power and bring in tougher laws and longer sentences.


I voted for harper and im voting for my Pc candidate in my area

vote for blackface brehs

 

[Tom Foolery]

Large amounts of spending happened under COVID, which he obviously has to do. At least Trudeau introduced social programs, spent a lot of money on infrastructure, what the fukk did Harper do?

Stop it. Justin came out the gate with large deficits. "The budget will balance itself"
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-liberals-infrastructure-deficits-1.3205535

What infrastructure has Trudeau built or improved since the first election? Where is the economic growth? Where is the stronger families? Why isn't social services helping these Junkies on the street?

All we have to show for this is weed. And we barely make any money off that too.

We could have got the same results with Harper, but with a much better budget.

 

[Jefferson Jackson]

 

[Miggs]

Naw, the Canadian market recovery in 2009 was the best in the world and we didn't blow a ton of cash.

Give the man his props were it's due.

407 is worth 40 billion right now,it was given away by Harper to SNC lavalin and a spanish firm for 3 billion....imagine what this province could have done with that money and every cent it makes goes to SNC and a foreign entity.....im not giving him his due,hes a lifelong moron.

 

[RedCloakBlackWraithe]

smh....this yutes just don't know. no sleep till they crash out themselves innocent blood of your brothers will weigh on you different once they're alone with themselves, no drugs, no women, no distractions. Why do you think some of these bruddas can't seem to leave the b.s alone? there's an energy behind the wickedness that binds you. good luck to those still knee deep in the devil's playground. God bless to those who are actively climbing and trying to climb out the trenches.

 

[Tom Foolery]

407 is worth 40 billion right now,it was given away by Harper to SNC lavalin and a spanish firm for 3 billion....imagine what this province could have done with that money and every cent it makes goes to SNC and a foreign entity.....im not giving him his due,hes a lifelong moron.

That wasn't Harper. That was Harris.

 

[Nomad1]

Stop it. Justin came out the gate with large deficits. "The budget will balance itself"
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-liberals-infrastructure-deficits-1.3205535

What infrastructure has Trudeau built or improved since the first election? Where is the economic growth? Where is the stronger families? Why isn't social services helping these Junkies on the street?

All we have to show for this is weed. And we barely make any money off that too.

We could have got the same results with Harper, but with a much better budget.

Stop it. Justin came out the gate with large deficits

The government needs to spend in order for an economy to improve and to get out of a recession. Harper just denied the existence of a recession and did nothing to remedy the effects (speaking mostly on the second recession), which is why Trudeau needed to run on a deficit when he got into office.
Harper refuses to admit Canada is in recession despite official figures

What infrastructure

Liberals already committed to and worked on clean water (especially in reservations, which improved upward to 80%) and environmental infrastructure (electric vehicles, energy-efficient buildings, helped invest billions in transit development, established DMAF to assist Canadians with disaster relief tied to the environment), already setup billions in funds for provincial governments to utilize the money for their own needs.
He has been actively investing in projects, his infrastructure plan from 2015 has multiple phases that extend to the late 2020s. I'll admit some of his projects have been rather slow in their implementation, but the commitment is still there.

Infrastructure Canada - Investing in Canada Plan – Building a Better Canada

Where is the economic growth?

We're in a pandemic economic growth will happen in 2022, why else do you think he called an election now? He's introducing more infrastructure spending to help bolster the economy and get people back to work

Liberals bet big on economic growth to cover COVID-19’s costs

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-infrastructure-pandemic-recovery-mckenna-1.5746029

much better budget.

During the period of the Harper government (2006-15), real GDP growth was markedly slower than during the preceding 22 years (table 1, row 1), a result of the sharp recession that occurred from the fourth quarter of 2008 to the second quarter of 2009, and of the period of sluggish recovery that followed

Economic performance and policy during the Harper years - Policy Options

I don't know what world you and @Tom Foolery were living in when Harper was PM, the economy was shyt, unemployment was high, etc. He added over 200 billion to the national debt (he cut the GST, which was stupid he lost a source of revenue and just added onto the debt).

I find it funny Conservative supports act like Harper transferred a good economy and books onto Trudeau which is a complete lie, he repeatedly undermined the scientific community, cut regulations, didn't want to acknowledge recessions (did that twice), etc. If none of that was the case then explain why Trudeau swept him in the election in historic numbers back in 2015? Imagine championing that clown as a fiscal god when he wasnt.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-harper-political-obit-1.3273677
No matter how you add it up, Harper's fiscal record is a catastrophe - iPolitics

 

[Nomad1]

can't wait till the pc are in power and bring in tougher laws and longer sentences.


I voted for harper and im voting for my Pc candidate in my area

vote for blackface brehs

"tough on crime" but only made things worse for communities and people dealing with the prison system (workers and prisoners)
I better not hear any pro black shyt from none of yall nikkas

https://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/Manitoba Office/2015/09/Tough on Crime WEB.pdf

 

[BigSteppa]

need those nyc gun laws in canada asap

even here in ottawa, its the same 20 criminals doing all the shooting and killing
get arrested, do 1 year and be back on the street doing the same bullshyt

Didn’t a scarb yute buss shots at a bouncer and run off an shoot at cops there like two days ago? My fam over dere told me sum bout dat

 

[MikelArteta]

That wasn't Harper. That was Harris.

harris also closed hospitals

 

[MikelArteta]

"tough on crime" but only made things worse for communities and people dealing with the prison system (workers and prisoners)
I better not hear any pro black shyt from none of yall nikkas

https://www.policyalternatives.ca/sites/default/files/uploads/publications/Manitoba Office/2015/09/Tough on Crime WEB.pdf

stick up for criminals brehs