who will win french open

  • nadal

    Votes: 71 38.8%
  • joker

    Votes: 59 32.2%
  • roger

    Votes: 26 14.2%
  • other

    Votes: 27 14.8%

  • Total voters
    183

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Not understanding what you're saying here, hows Rafa an old man when he is the same age Djokovic with only a year apart

"old man" refers to decline ..

you mean to say that this cover (written for a young teen audience) would "confuse you" to the point where you "couldn't figure it out" by yourself :picard:?

HINT: logan even when "young" was old in number of years.

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lawd ha mercy .. :picard:

please don't come back with anything about the ages of decline. we are talking about the lack of competition (for whatever reason).
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and won 15 slams during his peak with him
Plus again look at those first 12 cupcakes fed had

if you want to argue against my position then deconstruct the overarching argument.

soundbites and random "gotchas" don't cut it.

simply put: (nadal case)

nadal had to deal with peak fed in his prime and peak joker in his dotage.

surely you can see why that represents more GOAT level competition for nadal overall than joker got with old men fed and injury prone declining nadal through joker's prime .. and no competition barely in his late prime now (so far).

yeah i understand that people love superlatives but this is obvious



 

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"old man" refers to decline ..

you mean to say that this cover (written for a young teen audience) would "confuse you" to the point where you "couldn't figure it out" by yourself :picard:?

HINT: logan even when "young" was old in number of years.

s-l500.jpg


lawd ha mercy .. :picard:

please don't come back with anything about the ages of decline. we are talking about the lack of competition (for whatever reason).
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if you want to argue against my position then deconstruct the overarching argument.

soundbites and random "gotchas" don't cut it.

simply put: (nadal case)

nadal had to deal with peak fed in his prime and peak joker in his dotage.

surely you can see why that represents more GOAT level competition for nadal overall than joker got with old men fed and injury prone declining nadal through joker's prime .. and no competition barely in his late prime now (so far).

yeah i understand that people love superlatives but this is obvious



:skip::skip: in his decline but won 15 slams in the process and yeah I will give you Nadal being sandwiched between 2 goats but both peaked at the same time as they're the same thus faced the same level of opposition, hows this lost on you:dahell:

Regardless clay dude isnt above Djokovic whatsoever :manny:
 

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:skip::skip: in his decline but won 15 slams in the process and yeah I will give you Nadal being sandwiched between 2 goats but both peaked at the same time as they're the same thus faced the same level of opposition, hows this lost on you:dahell:

Regardless clay dude isnt above Djokovic whatsoever :manny:

let me try this:

Q: "if peak fed or nadal came back today would joker win less today???"

A: "yes" (of course)

(how about both peak fed and nadal coming back now?)

well that peak competition towards the end of career is what nadal and fed both had to deal with and what joker does not have to deal with.


:hubie:


got damn. how is saying this even controversial? it's obvious isn't it?
 

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: "if peak fed or nadal came back today would joker win less today???"
Outside clay he'd prolly beat Nadal and outside grass it would be the same with Fed. I'd give him 4/10 wins for both
well that peak competition towards the end of career is what nadal and fed both had to deal with and what joker does not have to deal with.
Djodal are a year apart so again they faced the same competition and are more contemporaries than fedal. Hence why their rivalry has the most matches of any so feds end isnt the same for nadal. Goodness not his fault Nadal is injured.
damn. how is saying this even controversial? it's obvious isn't it
You gotta be kidding right one look at their ages will tell you all you need to know your point makes no sense. Better yet look up contemporary
 

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Outside clay he'd prolly beat Nadal and outside grass it would be the same with Fed. I'd give him 4/10 wins for both

Djodal are a year apart so again they faced the same competition and are more contemporaries than fedal. Hence why their rivalry has the most matches of any so feds end isnt the same for nadal. Goodness not his fault Nadal is injured.

You gotta be kidding right one look at their ages will tell you all you need to know your point makes no sense. Better yet look up contemporary

well at least the facts have been laid out for anyone else to see

:hubie: :yeshrug:
 

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This dude talking to himself in here :mjlol:

Djokovic cooked his brain proper
 

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let me try this:

Q: "if peak fed or nadal came back today would joker win less today???"

A: "yes" (of course)

(how about both peak fed and nadal coming back now?)

well that peak competition towards the end of career is what nadal and fed both had to deal with and what joker does not have to deal with.


:hubie:


got damn. how is saying this even controversial? it's obvious isn't it?
Fed won the vast majority of his titles before nadal or joker hit their peaks lol
 

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Roger, Nadal and Novak are the 3 GOATS of Tennis. Each to his own when selecting between those 3.

I was always Roger stan first but then became more Novak when I saw how he was swinging the tide IMO. Nadal was always my least favourite of the 3 but he is a warrior and he handles pressure better than the other 2. I dont recall seeing him buckle under pressure, break a racket etc.
There’s no to each there’s own crap. There’s a clear one now :mjlol:
 

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The whole thing came off somewhat performative for me like Tatum telling everybody he listened to Kobe’s VM before the playoffs. It’s not debatable to me any more, Djokovic is top dawg…he’s a smug, dislikable, fascist all the same….
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joker is goat like klitschko is goat

"When it comes to world title defences and his reign as world champion, Klitschko holds the longest cumulative days as heavyweight king - 4,382 days - as well as holding the most wins as unified champion."

but we all know that klitschko's record is because ali, foreman, norton, lewis, holyfield and 'em had more competition :hubie:
 
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