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The relatively high rates of black on black violence are due to black people being forced into the brutalizing, dehumanizing thresher of black life in this godforsaken country. Any person who mentions it without acknowledging the context of how it's driven by white supremacy, in service of some "pull up your own bootstrap" mentality, is a fool at best and an agent at worst. Take your foot off black people's necks and maybe we'll stop spitting up blood.

yea most black homicides are drug related... way u solve that is with a black economy...

ironically the murder rate skyrocketed directly cuz of the reverend's c00n ass generation aka the baby boomers...

this aint nothin but their way of braggin bout how they passed down poverty, violence, drug addiction and a broken community to their descendants

the 2000s is a LOT less violent than the 70s, 80s n 90s were... we slowly been recovering from the damage they did..

first step we gotta rebuild the black economy they gave away.. what their ancestors fought so hard to build during the terror of jim crow..



Decivilization in the 1960s

And figure two, Homicide rates in US and England 1900-2000, shows that in the 1960s the homicide rate in America went through the roof.


Figure two - Homicide rates in US and England 1900-2000

After a three-decade free fall that spanned the Great Depression, World War II, and the Cold War, Americans multiplied their homicide rate by more than two and a half, from a low of 4.0 in 1957 to a high of 10.2 in 1980 (U.S. Bureau of Statistics; Fox and Zawitz: 2007). The upsurge included every other category of major crime as well, including rape, assault, robbery, and theft, and lasted (with ups and downs) for three decades. The cities got particularly dangerous, especially New York, which became a symbol of the new criminality. Though the surge in violence affected all the races and both genders, it was most dramatic among black men, whose annual homicide rate had shot up by the mid-1980s to 72 per 100,000.

The rebounding of violence in the 1960s defied every expectation. The decade was a time of unprecedented economic growth, nearly full employment, levels of economic equality for which people today are nostalgic, historic racial progress, and the blossoming of government social programs, not to mention medical advances that made victims more likely to survive being shot or knifed. Social theorists in 1962 would have happily bet that these fortunate conditions would lead to a continuing era of low crime. And they would have lost their shirts.

Why did the Western world embark on a three-decade binge of crime from which it has never fully recovered? This is one of several local reversals of the long-term decline of violence that I will examine in this book. If the analysis is on the right track, then the historical changes I have been invoking to explain the decline should have gone into reverse at the time of the surges.

An obvious place to look is demographics. The 1940s and 1950s, when crime rates hugged the floor, were the great age of marriage. Americans got married in numbers not seen before or since, which removed men from the streets and planted them in suburbs (Courtwright 1996). One consequence was a bust in violence. But the other was a boom in babies. The first baby boomers, born in 1946, entered their crime-prone years in 1961; the ones born in the peak year, 1954, entered in 1969. A natural conclusion is that the crime boom was an echo of the baby boom. Unfortunately, the numbers don’t add up. If it were just a matter of there being more teenagers and twenty-somethings who were committing crimes at their usual rates, the increase in crime from 1960 to 1970 would have been 13 percent, not 135 percent.[2] Young men weren’t simply more numerous than their predecessors; they were more violent, too.






Homicide Rate (per 100,000), 1950–2014

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf










 
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Yeah, ignorance of the pervasiveness of white supremacy and the myriad ways the system is designed to snuff out black prosperity and hope. We can overcome this by learning how to counteract these measures and move with purpose and unity as a people. We don't overcome this by chastising the symptom and ignoring the cause.
White supremacy is the root cause, there is no debate there. But to an extent that's never going away. So you gonna sit and cry or make moves? White supremacy aint making all these brothers drop out of school which is the first step white supremacists need for you to fail. I work in the criminal justice system. 95% of the brothers and sisters coming thru there dropped out of high school. So your solution to that is to blame white supremacy? How about parents start acting like fukkin parents and actually make their kids finish school? Because what are you going to do in this country without at least a h.s. diploma? No diploma, you have bottom of the barrel jobs available to you. So now the streets look more appetizing. Jail and or the cemetary become WAY more likely. We can't keep using the atrocities committed against us in the past as excuses. Too many black people out here doing great. Blaming white supremacy in 2018 because you're a fukk-up is weak.
 

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White supremacy is the root cause, there is no debate there. But to an extent that's never going away. So you gonna sit and cry or make moves? White supremacy aint making all these brothers drop out of school which is the first step white supremacists need for you to fail. I work in the criminal justice system. 95% of the brothers and sisters coming thru there dropped out of high school. So your solution to that is to blame white supremacy? How about parents start acting like fukkin parents and actually make their kids finish school? Because what are you going to do in this country without at least a h.s. diploma? No diploma, you have bottom of the barrel jobs available to you. So now the streets look more appetizing. Jail and or the cemetary become WAY more likely. We can't keep using the atrocities committed against us in the past as excuses. Too many black people out here doing great. Blaming white supremacy in 2018 because you're a fukk-up is weak.
I completely agree that we can't just wait for white people to grow a conscience, but making moves isn't what this pastor did when he blaming the "character and culture" of the black community for its current condition without contextualizing it in historical injustices. We need to be removing the systemic barriers to progress. Those kids you see aren't dropping out of high school because they want to or because they don't have "the right attitude", they're dropping out because their community has been systematically and maliciously stripped of opportunities to advance. They're on the frontlines of class and racial warfare against marginalized people in this country. It's hard to make your kid finish school when you're working 2-3 jobs without a raise in years and being the target of predatory lending systems while going into bankruptcy because you got sick. Self-sufficiency must be the goal, because we damn sure can't look outside for help, but when mistaking personal motivations for systemic factors is a regressive move. People are products of their environment.
 
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