The Official Primary Thread

[MrSinnister]

Last I heard they said Clinton was leading by 14 points. I don't know if that changed since then.

Where are they getting their polling data from? Something is really off on the was they're collecting it, that wasn't a factor in 2012, as Obama ran unopposed. By the time Obama got back to the general, the polling represented a good chunk of the electorate, from people on cells/landlines/social media, because they shared similar views.

You have the younger generation pulling HARD for Sanders, who have cells and other ways of communication, that are sometimes even not able to be called by unknown numbers. On the GOP side, most of those voters are still old as fukk, so they're more similar to the ones on landlines.

Bernie's completely wiping out the poll skew, and New York is one of the youngest cities, with far more cell phone use as well.

 

[SithLawd]

Because upstate New York is Hillary's actually base. Have you seen those crowds Bernie pulls nearly everywhere he goes? Do you know how many people they ACTUALLY represent?

Why isn't Hillary trying that shyt? Because she doesn't want to shoe the bleeding again, as she did in Wisconsin. Those New Yorker aren't wasting their time for someone they're not going to turn around and canvas for and vote for. You can just call NYC for Bernie right now, and if it is THIS close in places where she ACTUALLY represents, it is a wrap.

Just my take.

Upstate is mostly white, Hillary's base has clearly been minorities most of whom are in NYC.

Also the voter registration deadline for NY was back in November so a lot of these new enthusiastic sanders supporters won't even be able to vote (no doubt that deadline was some bullshyt)

Every single poll has Hillary up by at least 10

I think it'll be tighter than that but to call this thing a wrap for Bernie

We'll see on Tuesday

 

[MrSinnister]

You testing me breh...

That's an 80s action classic, John Matrix is the GOAT...

He was one of my first year analysts, they're here typically here two years...I was going to fire his ass because he was lazy fukk with an attitude...80s action movies randomly came up one day, he said Commando was wack and I about had enough of him and fired his ass...Like I said it was coming, he wasn't going to make it another week but it was no coincidence that was the last straw...

I said, IF SHE WOULD HAVE SAID COMMANDO WAS A WACK MOVIE, INSTANT FIRE HER ASS....LOL

I loved Commando, and was pissed when I was watching it with my parents and uncle and they were trashing it. You left out some words in your original post and I was clarifying the meaning.

 

[Pifferry]

No crowds reall. Haven't heard of any rallies. Lena Durham was going to throw her one, and it got cancelled. She doesn't want to be shown up as not having what it could be said she has.

It's like having a stock that is steadily losing its overall value, but not reflected really in the price, because the big holders aren't selling yet. Everyone's thinking it could simply be bad news, or good news is coming to counter the slide oranother big buyer is coming in.

In Hillary's case, it's trying to keep that one big buyer, the American people's need for a quick resolution and her inevitability, from selling. Seeking a midget to Bernie's Shaq in crowds and enthusiasm would do that.

Lord I hate that woman.

 

[THE MACHINE]

People are waking up, but it feels too late. If he could some how win NY. It wouldn't even need to be 60/40 like he really needs but just to win it


His campaign should start a "No transcripts, no vote" movement against Hillary. It might get some Hillary supporters to flip.

 

[SirReginald]

People are waking up, but it feels too late. If he could some how win NY. It wouldn't even need to be 60/40 like he really needs but just to win it


His campaign should start a "No transcripts, no vote" movement against Hillary. It might get some Hillary supporters to flip.

I don't want it to be over for Bernie

 

[MrSinnister]

Upstate is mostly white, Hillary's base has clearly been minorities most of whom are in NYC.

Also the voter registration deadline for NY was back in November so a lot of these new enthusiastic sanders supporters won't even be able to vote (no doubt that deadline was some bullshyt)

Every single poll has Hillary up by at least 10

I think it'll be tighter than that but to call this thing a wrap for Bernie

We'll see on Tuesday

You've been drinking too much of the media kool-aid. You don't really know her true base AT ALL. Minorities are a supplement, not her base. Her base is affluent White people, mostly female. The minorities help her after this. Don't buy the spin.

Bernie is winning more rural-based affluent Whites, that are outside of strong Southern influence. Southern White liberals prefer wrapping shyt up quickly, and not having to think too hard or defend political opinions. I know her base, friend.

 

[MrSinnister]

Lord I hate that woman.

Same here. I liked what she was trying to do...but then she went on that super feminist diet of bullshyt and grievance politics. Lost me. I liked that a fat Brit chicken can come here and sell being funny and horny. They just don't keep their mouth's closed with the male attacking bullshyt.

 

[SirReginald]

Beezy didn't win New York either

 

[¯\_(ツ)_/¯]

Congress and senate didn't block agendas Obama wanted to do?

 

[GzUp]

Hilliary +10 in new poll released today.

 

[SithLawd]

You've been drinking too much of the media kool-aid. You don't really know her true base AT ALL. Minorities are a supplement, not her base. Her base is affluent White people, mostly female. The minorities help her after this. Don't by the spin.

Bernie is winning more rural-based affluent Whites, that are outside of strong Southern influence. Southern White liverals prefer wrapping shyt up quickly, and not having to think too hard or defend political opinions. I know her base, friend.

wtf are u talking about. Literally just making shyt up on the fly
Democratic Primary Exit Poll Analysis

"In previous primaries, whites have voted 50-48 Sanders-Clinton, vs. 72-26 percent Clinton-Sanders among nonwhites. Sanders won whites in recent primaries in North Carolina, Missouri, Illinois and Michigan, though he lost them in Ohio, Florida and Mississippi"
She's losing with whites and being carried by minorities

And whites from Upstate NY are a lot closer ideologically to whites from NH and Vermont than southern whites so Sanders should be doing well with them.

But I suppose u personally saw a bunch of energetic hippies in drum circles yelling kumbabya chants for massa Bernie which will undoubtedly translate to a resounding victory

 

[MrSinnister]

wtf are u talking about. Literally just making shyt up on the fly
Democratic Primary Exit Poll Analysis

"In previous primaries, whites have voted 50-48 Sanders-Clinton, vs. 72-26 percent Clinton-Sanders among nonwhites. Sanders won whites in recent primaries in North Carolina, Missouri, Illinois and Michigan, though he lost them in Ohio, Florida and Mississippi"
She's losing with whites and being carried by minorities

And whites from Upstate NY are a lot closer ideologically to whites from NH and Vermont than southern whites so Sanders should be doing well with them.

But I suppose u personally saw a bunch of energetic hippies in drum circles yelling kumbabya chants for massa Bernie which will undoubtedly translate to a resounding victory

New York is still Hillary's home base, and you're taking an aggregate White voting block, NATIONWIDE, and trying to tie it to Bernie, when he's won like 65% of them outside of the South and mid East. Don't even know what to say about the Mass aBernie thing. Do you even know what an oligarchy is. You need to learn how it will affect Black upward mobility, before you try to throw Massa labels around, because that's the system Obama and Hillary is pushing for.

You're misreading polls again.

To be clear, Whites are still the biggest voting block in the primaries. Minorities are supplemental, but still can turn tides, especially in places like the South. That's that averages are. Bernie is winning a good chunk of Whites (60%+) in the West and Great Lakes areas, and Hillary is winning them in the South and Mid East (60%+ as well), with overlaps in individual states between the two, depending on whether it's an historically Blue, Red, or swing state.

 

[MrSinnister]

I don't get nearly enough credit for what I contribute here, and it's sad really.

To elaborate, I have to tell people, through logic and facts, things that they don't want to hear, and lose allies. Like Bernie is not an extension of Obama. Obama is no where near a progressive and is far more like Hillary. You would think Bernie supporters would already know this, but they want so desperately to give Obama a pass for leading like a moderate Republican, only because he's Black. Obama is to the very right of even Bill Clinton the Centrist. Hard truth based on pure facts, but they still blame the GOP when Obama starts all horsetrading to the right and immediately challenged and alienated Nancy Pelosi and other progressives that wanted him to start on the left.

Then the emotional appeals for "give me shyt", "punish the rich" socialists, which isn't fair at all to the rich. They don't understand that some of the rich earned it the right way because they want one way empathy and prizes from it. We should look to more empowerment with the tools we can get than entitlement, which they will understand why when they get older, and their taxes have to carry the lazy and drug addled too. We're all Bernie supporters but keep losing allies, even when I'm right on a lot of my calls and logic. It gets hilarious when you talk with liberals, especially on the Coli.

 

[tmonster]

talk is cheap they said, don't take money from the corporate machine they said, put your money where your mouth is they said
and then they said Bernie is all talk