The Official Oakland Raiders Offseason Thread

[2Quik4UHoes]

Exactly. It's all about the market you are in and the people that actually live in that market. Not if you can hopefully get people to interrupt their plans to attend a football game. The Bay Area and the nearly 8 million people plus an extra 2 million with Sacramento with large amount of disposable incomes>>>Vegas and the 2 million with nothing around it for at least 200 miles.

I don't understand why this isn't more obvious in the whole argument.

You're trading away more long term dollars for a short term splash just as the team is beginning to hit its stride again. This shyt is running on a lot of what ifs and Mark is getting egged on by casino tyc00ns and greedy ass team owners, the team for that should've been the Chargers if Goodell wanted to test the market. Chargers could've been to Vegas was the Sonics were to OKC, they're a small market team. You don't take your best bet to win back the LA market as it's on the upswing and give it to a tiny market like Vegas. This is quite possibly some of the dumbest shyt I've seen the NFL do on some business shyt. Just makes you go at all of it.

Edit: Plus there was lowkey 'cism in why we couldn't go to LA when they brought up the gang culture. Not every fan of the Raiders in LA are gang members.

 

[Troublesome]

I think that's the only way this is redeemable. Because I think it's unrealistic to expect BOTH cities to commute to Vegas en masse, LA is one thing but Oakland might be a whole nother ball game. At the very least, if there was a way to make it much easier/cheaper to get there for games and get back home that'd be ok. Not everyone want to blow their money in Vegas nor can they afford to so the lure is dead right there. I can't imagine a hard working nikka with kids from Oakland that fukk with the games to think it's prudent to travel to Vegas and back several times when the cost of living continues to go up.

Plus our games will have way more fans from the away team when you think about it, who's to say there won't be times we end up outnumbered in the stands just because a whole slew of the other team's fans want to hit up Vegas. Every person I've talked to so far reacts the same way, they can't wait till their team plays us so they can go to the game and get it in. I dunno brehs, I just don't fukk with it, I'll accept it and continue to enjoy our resurgence but I just don't fukk wit it.

I never thought about it like that. Now that you say it, if we're depending on Cali fans to make that commute to fill the stadium instead of the locals, I wouldn't be shocked if we have a 50/50 turnout at most games and even some games being outnumbered by away fans. If we assume fans from the bay area and other parts of Cali are going to travel just to watch a game, we should also assume fans from other teams will do the same... And those away fans would only have to do it once a season.

I was never that excited about the move, but I'm starting to think it could be a big mistake now.

 

[Chris Cool]

People will still go to Vegas for casino's and live shows over a football game and the Raiders will never out do the entertainment of that city. There's a reason why small markets like Vegas only has one team at the most and any market of that size is looked at oversaturation (New Orleans). Vegas being the 40th largest market with two teams is oversaturation. There are multitude of problems with a second team in Vegas.

the reason Vegas doesn't have a team is because of gambling. raiders fans done traveled everywhere this year including outside the country, but now all of a sudden they ain't gonna travel to Vegas? people about to planning whole weekends around these games. Oakland just gonna have to take the L like LA did. it's not like they've one of the worse if not the worst attendance of the last 10 years and had to tarp off 10,000 seats or anything.

 

[Spade]

the reason Vegas doesn't have a team is because of gambling. raiders fans done traveled everywhere this year including outside the country, but now all of a sudden they ain't gonna travel to Vegas? people about to planning whole weekends around these games. Oakland just gonna have to take the L like LA did. it's not like they've one of the worse if not the worst attendance of the last 10 years and had to tarp off 10,000 seats or anything.

You expect them to travel to Nevada 8 times in a three month span? Also dude is right. There will be games where they could be outnumbered by other teams fans.

 

[Supreme]

yaw keep calling him a dumbass but there's really not shyt else he can do at this point. yaw keep bringing up al like he ain't the reason their in this situation in the first place.

Exactly he's tried all he can to get a deal done with the city but they been bullshytting him​

 

[Trojan 24]

You expect them to travel to Nevada 8 times in a three month span? Also dude is right. There will be games where they could be outnumbered by other teams fans.

A large contingent of fans travel from LA up to Oakland for games, Vegas is about half that distance


But honestly, I'm all for the San Diego Raiders

 

[Supreme]

There's nothing none of us can do about the move, these nfl owners just thinking bout money. They don't give a damn about none of us. All you can do is accept the move or become a fan of 4ers, Sheeps, or Dolts

 

[Trojan 24]

There's nothing none of us can do about the move, these nfl owners just thinking bout money. They don't give a damn about none of us. All you can do is accept the move or become a fan of 4ers, Sheeps, or Dolts

Vegas the only place outside of California that I could accept. Anywhere else and I would have been done most likely. Wasn't about to be a damn San Antonio Raiders fan

 

[FaTaL]

Exactly he's tried all he can to get a deal done with the city but they been bullshytting him​

How do you negotiate with a city with no money?

 

[Th3G3ntleman]

Might want to change the thread title fk boys

 

[King Poetic]

Vegas is still highly populated with California natives and if the raiders have a marketing team that knows how to handle promotions and special events for the team they could succeed...

But I still have a slight feeling people will sell their tickets at top dollar to visitors if the patriots or cowboys come to town and you'll have the stadium looking like chargers games

 

[Supreme]

How do you negotiate with a city with no money?

This guy isn't as broke as people think. Both parties trying to get the most out of the other. All of this doesn't matter to me, I'm going to be a Raider regardless​

 

[Chris Cool]

You expect them to travel to Nevada 8 times in a three month span? Also dude is right. There will be games where they could be outnumbered by other teams fans.

the raiders ain't the Chargers man, they have a legit top 5 fan base. if they takeover san diego every year and it's only a 30 min difference why wouldn't they go to Vegas? think if all the people who would be more willing to go because their in Vegas. nikkas talking about there are better things to do in Vegas, name them. what's all the shyt that's better to do on a sunday at 1pm? I'll wait.

 

[focusloco]

Vegas is still highly populated with California natives and if the raiders have a marketing team that knows how to handle promotions and special events are the team they could succeed...

But I still have a slight feeling people will sell their tickets at top dollar to visitors if the patriots or cowboys come to town and you'll have the stadium looking like chargers games

Just speaking from my experience growing up in Vegas... MOST of the kids in my school were from Cali...Like 60 percent or more...So there is a raider fanbase in Vegas...And the people here are hungry for a franchise...there is no doubt Vegas will sellout every game for the near future...The new hockey team here sold all its season tickets in a week...And nobody here gives a shyt about hockey

 

[King Poetic]

the raiders ain't the Chargers man, they have a legit top 5 fan base. if they takeover san diego every year and it's only a 30 min difference why wouldn't they go to Vegas? think if all the people who would be more willing to go because their in Vegas. nikkas talking about there are better things to do in Vegas, name them. what's all the shyt that's better to do on a sunday at 1pm? I'll wait.

Exactly...Vegas Sunday's afternoons during the fall is slow....

If the raiders was playing in the spring and summer then we might have a problem