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[The ADD]

Sources: White to get piece of future UFC profits

Sources confirmed that White owned nine percent of the UFC, which would mean his cash out on the recent $4 billion sale to agency WME-IMG and other partners will be roughly $360 million when the deal closes. It was not immediately known if White is retaining any percentage of the new company.

UFC chairman Lorenzo Fertitta, who with his brother Frank owned 80 percent of the enterprise and will leave the UFC on the new deal, told CNN in December that the business grossed $600 million in 2015.

Figuring out what the business actually nets after all expenses is an inexact science, but based on a ballpark estimate of what other entertainment businesses net after costs, the UFC bottom line could be in the $200 million range. That would make White's yearly take to start about $18 million on top of his cash out.

 

[LinusCaldwell]

Before the injury Cain was supposed to get a title shot, so it's the same case as giving Khabib a shot. Dude didn't beat a fighter that warrants being a contender this time, but he was already lined up for the shot so he gets some leeway. The only other HW who really has a case is JDS, but that only makes sense if Stipe wins since Overeem KO'ed him. If Brock wanted to fight again, it should be against the loser of Stipe and Reem; I'd rather see him against Derrick Lewis just to see the two strongest fighters (imo) in the UFC matched up, but Brock's name power warrants a quick run to a title shot.

To be honest I'm not sold on Lewis's TDD. Brock/Cain and DC have by far the best wrestling in the division. Those other 2 guys are way more versatile than Brock tho. I can see Werdum being the toughest match up for Brock because he's the most savvy on his back. A Mir trilogy would be dope because Mir has been trying to work on his hands but I know he's asked UFC to release him.

I'm sure if Brock flirts with the UFC and WWE he's probably gonna be booked cautiously away from a wrestling or UFC event just in case any injuries or concussions occur in either organization. Seems like a very delicate matter.

 

[storyteller]

To be honest I'm not sold on Lewis's TDD. Brock/Cain and DC have by far the best wrestling in the division. Those other 2 guys are way more versatile than Brock tho. I can see Werdum being the toughest match up for Brock because he's the most savvy on his back. A Mir trilogy would be dope because Mir has been trying to work on his hands but I know he's asked UFC to release him.

I'm sure if Brock flirts with the UFC and WWE he's probably gonna be booked cautiously away from a wrestling or UFC event just in case any injuries or concussions occur in either organization. Seems like a very delicate matter.

I actually like the Brock/Lewis match up because it should force Lewis to keep working on his TDD (which Roy showed needs more work) but would also give the HW division a chance to pump a new name into the mix. I edge Cain over everyone, DC and Brock are definitely 2a and 2b but don't sleep on Stipe either, he's got good enough wrestling combined with striking where I think he's a nightmare for Brock. Werdum would be interesting vs Brock for sure, Werdum is the hardest cat to rate for me (in terms of all time HW)...he's literally submitted my top 3 all time, but I still put him under them when I rank all time HW's.

That's a good point on the injury/concussion thing, but Hunt's one punch power is like a instant concussion threat so maybe they're willing to take risks...but if they're gonna play it safe, I'd probably enjoy the train wreck that a Stefan Struve fight would turn into lol

 

[LinusCaldwell]

I actually like the Brock/Lewis match up because it should force Lewis to keep working on his TDD (which Roy showed needs more work) but would also give the HW division a chance to pump a new name into the mix. I edge Cain over everyone, DC and Brock are definitely 2a and 2b but don't sleep on Stipe either, he's got good enough wrestling combined with striking where I think he's a nightmare for Brock. Werdum would be interesting vs Brock for sure, Werdum is the hardest cat to rate for me (in terms of all time HW)...he's literally submitted my top 3 all time, but I still put him under them when I rank all time HW's.

That's a good point on the injury/concussion thing, but Hunt's one punch power is like a instant concussion threat so maybe they're willing to take risks...but if they're gonna play it safe, I'd probably enjoy the train wreck that a Stefan Struve fight would turn into lol

Yeah I hear you I didn't put in Stipe or Reem because they are fighting each other next. JDS would be another interesting match up. I think Struve if he's wise can do damage from the outside. Arloski doesn't possess the TDD enough to stop Brock nor does Browne.

 

[curz]

Before the injury Cain was supposed to get a title shot, so it's the same case as giving Khabib a shot. Dude didn't beat a fighter that warrants being a contender this time, but he was already lined up for the shot so he gets some leeway. The only other HW who really has a case is JDS, but that only makes sense if Stipe wins since Overeem KO'ed him. If Brock wanted to fight again, it should be against the loser of Stipe and Reem; I'd rather see him against Derrick Lewis just to see the two strongest fighters (imo) in the UFC matched up, but Brock's name power warrants a quick run to a title shot.

How does Cain have a case? He was getting a rematch that he didnt deserve in the first fukking place. He lost decisively, got his ass beat went for a takedown and got subbed just like Connor but he has a case?

 

[RubioTheCruel]

How does Cain have a case? He was getting a rematch that he didnt deserve in the first fukking place. He lost decisively, got his ass beat went for a takedown and got subbed just like Connor but he has a case?

It's not like they have a whole lot of options. Where do you go? Werdum's already booked for September. If Overreem beats Miocic, JDS just lost to Overreem less than a year ago. No one else down the line is a realistic option.

 

[storyteller]

How does Cain have a case? He was getting a rematch that he didnt deserve in the first fukking place. He lost decisively, got his ass beat went for a takedown and got subbed just like Connor but he has a case?

You can dislike that he was the number one contender but that's just what it is. He was set up to fight for the belt and missed out because he got hurt. Not by missing weight, no failed drug tests, just an injury. So all he had to do was show he was healthy and he's back in the spot he left at, number one contender.

 

[curz]

You can dislike that he was the number one contender but that's just what it is. He was set up to fight for the belt and missed out because he got hurt. Not by missing weight, no failed drug tests, just an injury. So all he had to do was show he was healthy and he's back in the spot he left at, number one contender.

Oh i'm not saying you dont make the fight. But Cains "case" is laughable at best, he got his ass whupped and he should have to work his way back, but it never works that way for Cain, the mexican golden ticket

 

[storyteller]

Oh i'm not saying you dont make the fight. But Cains "case" is laughable at best, he got his ass whupped and he should have to work his way back, but it never works that way for Cain, the mexican golden ticket

Oh true I feel you. It's the typical UFC pattern at this point. They invested a lot in Cain, so they'll give him every opportunity to bounce back since he's an investment. Unless someone made a major statement, Cain just had to beat literally anybody and he had his shot lined up. It's like they only feel they can afford to push one or two fighters in any given division.

 

[joeychizzle]

Nunes hits like a dude. Perfect pivot and throwing her full weight into it. She looked like a bully in there. Reminded me of Cyborg beating up Gina Carano. Throw in the towelThrow it!NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

We need to see a Holm Tate rematch
I wanna see holly go IN with the kicks and punches

 

[Screwface Exchange]

Oh true I feel you. It's the typical UFC pattern at this point. They invested a lot in Cain, so they'll give him every opportunity to bounce back since he's an investment. Unless someone made a major statement, Cain just had to beat literally anybody and he had his shot lined up. It's like they only feel they can afford to push one or two fighters in any given division.

The entire HW division is a laugh rite now. It's da same handful of guys jus rotating around and beating up on each other. It's starting to get pretty sad how badly ufc needs a true young promisimg HW to come shake things up.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

We need to see a Holm Tate rematch
I wanna see holly go IN with the kicks and punches

(1) Holly is not comfortable on the ground...

(2) She is a Winkle-John fighter, they tend to be "game plan" fighters...

 

[pez]

(1) Holly is not comfortable on the ground...

(2) She is a Winkle-John fighter, they tend to be "game plan" fighters...

Winkle-John fighters = that guy who plays Street Fighter and finds that one combo or single jump kick that works and will spam that for the entire game. Boring but he'll probably be running that arcade machine for awhile.

 

[storyteller]

The entire HW division is a laugh rite now. It's da same handful of guys jus rotating around and beating up on each other. It's starting to get pretty sad how badly ufc needs a true young promisimg HW to come shake things up.

It's crazy fam, the current champion got KO'ed by Stefan Struve once...HW is where literally anyone can get got and there hasn't been a dominant presence in forever. Has anyone defended the heavyweight title more than twice in a row?

 

[LinusCaldwell]

That new Ronda commercial is dumb