The OFFICIAL MICHIGAN FOOTBALL TEAM 140 THREAD: THE TEAM! THE TEAM! THE TEAM!

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Michigan's Jim Harbaugh testy after his fifth consecutive loss to Ohio State
ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- After Ohio State cruised to a 56-27 win over Michigan on Saturday, coach Jim Harbaugh took exception to questions about where the biggest gap is between two programs that seem to be further apart than ever.

Ohio State beat Michigan for the eighth straight time -- the Wolverines' longest streak in the series -- and Harbaugh dropped to 0-5 against his team's biggest rival. In their past two games in the series, Ohio State has scored 118 points, leaving Michigan with few answers in the aftermath.

When asked whether the biggest gap involved talent, preparation or coaching, Harbaugh responded, "I'll answer your questions, not your insults."

Pressed again about the biggest gap, Harbaugh said, "They played really good. They played better today."

Harbaugh refused to give much else in response to his team's struggles to beat Ohio State, saying only, "I thought our team was well prepared. I thought they were playing good football. I thought it was a good football fight, and it got away from us today. Give them credit for playing well."

After another question about how much he personally wants to beat Ohio State, Harbaugh offered, "We really want to win the game. Yes."

Ohio State quarterback Justin Fields believes something else might be in play.

"We take it more seriously than they do," Fields said. "Like (strength coach) Mickey Marotti said, 'We're preparing for them next year right now.' It just means more at Ohio State. That's pretty much the big reason.

"I know a few players on (Michigan), and I just know the things we do in terms of workouts and how serious we take it at Ohio State. So, talking to those guys, and getting their perspective on things, I definitely see we take it more serious."


Those on the Michigan sideline would certainly take exception to that notion, but it is hard to argue with the way Ohio State has made a once-competitive rivalry so one-sided. That has led to renewed criticism about Harbaugh and whether he can get Michigan to the same level as Ohio State.

Five years in, this is his team, with his players and his vision, yet the Wolverines have looked lost with so much on the line. His players batted down the idea that there is a mental roadblock when it comes to playing Ohio State despite their recent frustrations.

"We're just as talented, I feel like, and maybe they just made a few more plays than us today, but I feel like we should have been right there, and I don't think this result should have been the result we should have seen, but it's the one that we have, and we've just got to live with that," Michigan linebacker Jordan Glasgow said.

The game Saturday started well enough for Michigan, with an opening touchdown drive that showcased the strides its offense has made over the past six weeks. But Michigan could never slow down J.K. Dobbins or Justin Fields, giving up 577 total yards. Dobbins had 211 yards rushing and four touchdowns.

This is one year after Ohio State scored 62 points, prompting even more questions about defensive coordinator Don Brown and what has gone wrong two straight seasons.

"We've got to dig down next year, see what we've got," defensive lineman Aidan Hutchinson said. "You're not going to win ball games when you're letting up 50, 60 points. It's not going to happen. We're a better defense than this. We're a better team than this. We're a lot better than the numbers on this sheet."

Once again, there were too many mistakes for Michigan to overcome, including Shea Patterson's fumble inside the red zone, a penalty on an Ohio State punt that the Buckeyes turned into a touchdown, and a failed fourth-and-1 in the fourth quarter when Hassan Haskins missed a wide-open hole and was stopped short.

That all led Michigan players to lament the lack of execution.

"No one's happy," Michigan tight end Sean McKeon said. "Definitely really frustrating. Just kind of the same thing every year. We've got to execute better, and it gets old, but just have to play better against them.

"They're just a team. They're not an NFL team. Just got to win your one-on-one matchups and got to have every guy on the field do his job."

Tom VanHaaren contributed to this report.

Harbaugh testy after another loss to Ohio State


Team ain't gonna be shyt as long as Harbaugh's there.

What do you want him to say, yes they have better players than us ?? Not going to happen in a press conference, y’all keep campaigning and y’all gon run jim out of here, and it’s gon fukk around and be a rich rod era again, y’all want this nikka to win against a team on the level of bama with their talent and coaches top to bottom, and to say harbaugh doesn’t put emphasis on the game is laughable, but let’s say he doesn’t some how put the extra emphasis on it, so that’s the reason we lost ?? Come the fukk on
 

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Stop making excuses. Michigan football players are the same ones being recruited by everybody else. They not recruiting some type of smart player that needs to be admitted to Michigan. And if you think Michigan not gonna lower the bar for top athletes then i got some ocean front property in Taylor to sell you.

Ain’t no excuses and there is a difference between the bosa brothers and chase young and Gary, winavich and uche it’s a difference when you send multiple corners to the league early
 

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Another year where fans were lied to by Michigan media members who are paid to mythologize this team. We were led to believe the PSU game was a baptism, and everything that happened afterwards was a new team reaching new heights that would ultimately lead to us competing against OSU. Nah. The media lies, the fanbase is delusional, and then the product disappoints...every year. It's such an obvious cycle

As I said in the other thread, there are two camps now. There's a camp that demands more and either wants Harbaugh fired or thinks he should be on the hot seat next season. And there's the group of pearl clutchers who seem to think the ghosts of the Rich Rod era demand we keep Harbaugh because 9-10 wins is respectable and the only alternative is failure. Which side are you on?

I think fans are gonna look at FSU, Miami, Nebraska, etc and decide they'd rather tread water with Harbaugh. Because beating up on average conference teams and getting some ESPN attention is what these people truly live for.
 

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Another year where fans were lied to by Michigan media members who are paid to mythologize this team. We were led to believe the PSU game was a baptism, and everything that happened afterwards was a new team reaching new heights that would ultimately lead to us competing against OSU. Nah. The media lies, the fanbase is delusional, and then the product disappoints...every year. It's such an obvious cycle

As I said in the other thread, there are two camps now. There's a camp that demands more and either wants Harbaugh fired or thinks he should be on the hot seat next season. And there's the group of pearl clutchers who seem to think the ghosts of the Rich Rod era demand we keep Harbaugh because 9-10 wins is respectable and the only alternative is failure. Which side are you on?

I think fans are gonna look at FSU, Miami, Nebraska, etc and decide they'd rather tread water with Harbaugh. Because beating up on average conference teams and getting some ESPN attention is what these people truly live for.

The crazy thing is that there's proven great coaches out there, you can throw a bag at Mike Gundy; Rhule, or David Shaw. Or just go for a big name and hire Brady or Woodson, there's no reason y'all should settle for Harbs when you guys have the resources to better coaches.
 

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Ain’t no excuses and there is a difference between the bosa brothers and chase young and Gary, winavich and uche it’s a difference when you send multiple corners to the league early
The difference is rashan Gary was a bust and the bosa boys wasn’t.

and Michigan doing the same chit them other schools doing. Over signing and running kids off and hiring family members and high school coaches and chit.
 

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At this point it’s not a rivalry. Actually hasn’t been one for a damn decade. We just go in hoping not to get embarrassed and we can’t even do that.

Harbaugh isn’t it. Team is still slow, mistake prone and over hyped annually. I don’t need a name I just need somebody to get the job done and he isn’t the one. How many more OSU losses and bowl losses will it take?
 

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As I said in the other thread, there are two camps now. There's a camp that demands more and either wants Harbaugh fired or thinks he should be on the hot seat next season. And there's the group of pearl clutchers who seem to think the ghosts of the Rich Rod era demand we keep Harbaugh because 9-10 wins is respectable and the only alternative is failure. Which side are you on?

well said . Exactly y’alls dilemma.
 
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:francis: can finally admit that I don't know when we are going to beat Ohio State ever again. They killed us upfront on both sides. Can't even hate on them. When it comes to overall talent they are scary good. Athletes everywhere. They had true freshmen WR Wilson getting behind of Metellus and Gray. 4th string Austin Mack abusing Lavert Hill and Thomas. Don Brown's defense is :trash: against any team with a pulse. Outside of Solomon (tranferred) I don't think we have a true DT on the roster. Staff needs to change the way they're recruiting asap if they want a chance to every compete with OSU again.
 
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:francis: can finally admit that I don't know when we are going to beat Ohio State ever again. They killed us upfront on both sides. Can't even hate on them. When it comes to overall talent they are scary good. Athletes everywhere. They had true freshmen WR Wilson getting behind of Metellus and Gray. 4th string Austin Mack abusing Lavert Hill and Thomas. Don Brown's defense is :trash: against any team with a pulse. Outside of Solomon (tranferred) I don't think we have a true DT on the roster. Staff needs to change the way their recruiting asap if they want a chance to every compete with OSU again.


Don Brown keeps bringing in DE's and converting them to DT's. Look at our 2020 class.. not a SINGLE DT in the class.

Brown gotta go.
Harbaugh gotta go.
Gattis.. I hate it had to be you too. :francis:


We need a whole new regime.
 
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Crazy how timing is everything. I feel that Harbaugh came back to Michigan three years late (hired Hoke instead :snoop:) Urban returning to OSU changed everything about their culture. OSU now is damn near a SEC caliber team in the Big 10. Most of their best players now are from the south. OSU have blocked Michigan from 2 potential playoffs appearances since he's been here. Right now Ohio State is just on a historic run.....probably the best in their history. I don't even think bringing in a new coach is going to stop that :francis:

 

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The difference is rashan Gary was a bust and the bosa boys wasn’t.

and Michigan doing the same chit them other schools doing. Over signing and running kids off and hiring family members and high school coaches and chit.

We not signing quality, and according to @Trust Me gary wanted to play de and we let him to keep him, he needed to be playing dt, but two things on Gary he is as talented as he is motivated, he literally has the ability to take over a game, but he was lazy, he also commanded a double team, and our other linemen needed to step up and make plays

:francis: can finally admit that I don't know when we are going to beat Ohio State ever again. They killed us upfront on both sides. Can't even hate on them. When it comes to overall talent they are scary good. Athletes everywhere. They had true freshmen WR Wilson getting behind of Metellus and Gray. 4th string Austin Mack abusing Lavert Hill and Thomas. Don Brown's defense is :trash: against any team with a pulse. Outside of Solomon (tranferred) I don't think we have a true DT on the roster. Staff needs to change the way they're recruiting asap if they want a chance to every compete with OSU again.
And thats what i meant in my post earlier, until we ready to do what it takes to get quality/quantity linemen, and more 4.3-4.4’s on the field this is us, and nikkas thinking the man up top is what’s holding us back is laughable but go head and bring in a new guy I’m sure he will lead us in a new direction
 

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Crazy how timing is everything. I feel that Harbaugh came back to Michigan three years late (hired Hoke instead :snoop:) Urban returning to OSU changed everything about their culture. OSU now is damn near a SEC caliber team in the Big 10. Most of their best players now are from the south. OSU have blocked Michigan from 2 potential playoffs appearances since he's been here. Right now Ohio State is just on a historic run.....probably the best in their history. I don't even think bringing in a new coach is going to stop that :francis:



Damn i said the same thing, but folks want to act like I’m talking out my ass when i say that but maybe all this losing will force us to self asses and say fukk it open up the purse
 
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We not signing quality, and according to @Trust Me gary wanted to play de and we let him to keep him, he needed to be playing dt, but two things on Gary he is as talented as he is motivated, he literally has the ability to take over a game, but he was lazy, he also commanded a double team, and our other linemen needed to step up and make plays


And thats what i meant in my post earlier, until we ready to do what it takes to get quality/quantity linemen, and more 4.3-4.4’s on the field this is us, and nikkas thinking the man up top is what’s holding us back is laughable but go head and bring in a new guy I’m sure he will lead us in a new direction

Did y'all hear how Ohio State has their recruiting board set up? I read yesterday that they have a coordinate that knows single detail about our team. Have notes on every player on the team and recruits we go after :damn: that's dedication right there. Our recruiting coordinator Matt Dudek needs to be :camby:. I swear I remember a time in the early and mid 2000s when our recruiting board use to be littered with high 4* and 5* On the pregame show on Fox Brady Quinn said that Michigan has only had 3 players since 2004 drafted on the offensive side of the ball (1st 3 rounds) :mindblown: that's unacceptable
 

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Did y'all hear how Ohio State has their recruiting board set up? I read yesterday that they have a coordinate that knows single detail about our team. Have notes on every player on the team and recruits we go after :damn: that's dedication right there. Our recruiting coordinator Matt Dudek needs to be :camby:. I swear I remember a time in the early and mid 2000s when our recruiting board use to be littered with high 4* and 5* On the pregame show on Fox Brady Quinn said that Michigan has only had 3 players since 2004 drafted on the offensive side of the ball (1st 3 rounds) :mindblown: that's unacceptable

That’s what I’m screaming you look at Alabama and someone as dynamic as waddle is a returner and like somewhere on their depth chart as a 4th wr or so, the closest we have to that is Giles and bell but they probably ain’t pure 4.3 speed but you get my point
 

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We not signing quality, and according to @Trust Me gary wanted to play de and we let him to keep him, he needed to be playing dt, but two things on Gary he is as talented as he is motivated, he literally has the ability to take over a game, but he was lazy, he also commanded a double team, and our other linemen needed to step up and make plays


And thats what i meant in my post earlier, until we ready to do what it takes to get quality/quantity linemen, and more 4.3-4.4’s on the field this is us, and nikkas thinking the man up top is what’s holding us back is laughable but go head and bring in a new guy I’m sure he will lead us in a new direction
The man up top is the one bringing in these players that you say aren’t good enough. He the one that hired the fugazzi d coordinator, he’s the one that’s on his what 4th offensive coordinator. Harbaugh is the ceo and the gm and the coach of Michigan football. He responsible for all the chit.

the players Michigan sign are being recruited by all the other top programs. To say they are not quality is laughable. Especially when we’ve seen MSU win big ten titles and beat Ohio state with recruiting classes that don’t even crack the top 25.
 
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