The Official Knicks offseason thread

[The War Report]

nikkas really discussing how Lin's salary is gonna cause dissension in the locker room? fukk anybody in that locker room who cares what any of their teammates get paid

A lot of these dudes in the locker room have put in a lot more work than Lin to get these nice ass contracts. Just saying.

 

[Cory MBA]

You know what else? Shouldn't Lin actually try to work 'with' the Knicks instead of conspiring with the Rockets to drive his price up to unreasonable amounts? I understand the concept of getting all you can out of your employer but at a point it crosses a line of greed that will put you at odds with an organization that basically made you what you are.

Lin is smart, he should think of more than just his contract if his intentions are winning and remaining a Knick. If it's all about the paper, go to Houston. But these last minute attempts to price-gouge, money-grab, and pull bank heists will certainly rub a lot of people the wrong way. Pause.

If he is confident in his abilities and thinks he will be a point guard in the league for 5 or more years I don't think he would have to participate in desperate moves like this. He is going to ruin his bargaining position the next go around. Neither he or Houston are operating in good faith. It points to character and possibly insecurity about his longevity.

 

[JMurder]

No he's just being a bytch lol .you think he would be some what grateful I know this a business but damn . I know that after saying he was 80 % in the playoffs but then not playing while bdiddy limping around like a lame horse he was only about money but still .

Overpaying Lin has more than just locker room repercussions. It will have cap implications in a few years that will hinder the Knicks options.

I have no problem with Lin. I don't think he should be the 4th highest paid player on the team having only performed for about only 3-4 weeks total.

A lot of these dudes in the locker room have put in a lot more work than Lin to get these nice ass contracts. Just saying.

it's a business, let dude make his money. the core of this team is set regardless of whatever his contract ends up being. Three years guaranteed, the fourth year is still an option. If he plays and it's not worth the contract, the Knicks will be back under the cap by that fourth year. What's the big deal?

 

[JMurder]

You know what else? Shouldn't Lin actually try to work 'with' the Knicks instead of conspiring with the Rockets to drive his price up to unreasonable amounts?

quite the accusation, but there's no way for any of us to know whether this is true or if the Rockets just really wanted Lin since they don't have PG's. Chill

are there any better PG options in free agency? Did Lin not play his 25 games hard to the point of INJURY? How quickly we forget that the entire time he played, he was playing above his contract on nothing more than the word of his higher ups that he was going to be taken care of. Was it not unreasonable to request him to play 40+ minutes a night off the bat even though his contract situation was uncertain?

 

[Cory MBA]

it's a business, let dude make his money. the core of this team is set regardless of whatever his contract ends up being. Three years guaranteed, the fourth year is still an option. If he plays and it's not worth the contract, the Knicks will be back under the cap by that fourth year. What's the big deal?

And if Kidd outperforms Lin and proves to be the starter for the team would you be comfortable seeing Lin on the bench making $10 million a year? During the next free agent frenzy when we cannot make any moves because we owe Lin $30 million, would we look at this contract as wise?

 

[Cory MBA]

quite the accusation, but there's no way for any of us to know whether this is true or if the Rockets just really wanted Lin since they don't have PG's. Chill

are there any better PG options in free agency? Did Lin not play his 25 games hard to the point of INJURY? How quickly we forget that the entire time he played, he was playing above his contract on nothing more than the word of his higher ups that he was going to be taken care of. Was it not unreasonable to request him to play 40+ minutes a night off the bat even though his contract situation was uncertain?

Good point.

He performed well and I agree. I rooted for him and still root for him but the organization still has to be reasonable. The Knicks front office does not want to be the laughing stock of the league next year giving someone who is essentially still a rookie a contract based upon a few weeks performance.

And you are right about him playing above his last contract....but does that justify multiplying that contract by 20....and after he has shown that he could not handle playing for a full season.

No beef....just discussion.

 

[KillbertArenas]

You know what else? Shouldn't Lin actually try to work 'with' the Knicks instead of conspiring with the Rockets to drive his price up to unreasonable amounts? I understand the concept of getting all you can out of your employer but at a point it crosses a line of greed that will put you at odds with an organization that basically made you what you are.

Lin is smart, he should think of more than just his contract if his intentions are winning and remaining a Knick. If it's all about the paper, go to Houston. But these last minute attempts to price-gouge, money-grab, and pull bank heists will certainly rub a lot of people the wrong way. Pause.

If he is confident in his abilities and thinks he will be a point guard in the league for 5 or more years I don't think he would have to participate in desperate moves like this. He is going to ruin his bargaining position the next go around. Neither he or Houston are operating in good faith. It points to character and possibly insecurity about his longevity.

What makes you think Lin wants to "remain a Knick"???

 

[Cory MBA]

What makes you think Lin wants to "remain a Knick"???

Good point. I wish him and Landry success in their future endeavors.

 

[23Barrettcity]

quite the accusation, but there's no way for any of us to know whether this is true or if the Rockets just really wanted Lin since they don't have PG's. Chill

are there any better PG options in free agency? Did Lin not play his 25 games hard to the point of INJURY? How quickly we forget that the entire time he played, he was playing above his contract on nothing more than the word of his higher ups that he was going to be taken care of. Was it not unreasonable to request him to play 40+ minutes a night off the bat even though his contract situation was uncertain?

Still look Lin is going to be overpaid and im ok with that , the price gouging makes it seem like he doesn't want to be here or that he has doubts on how good he will be in the future. I think Lin will probably wind up being a steal value wise but last minute greed and mysterious complaints that he said "probably " aren't true get me wary of where his heads at. The bright lights can fukk your head up as well as inspire you

 

[RickyGQ]

this is the risk the knicks took by not giving him an offer first... their move (which i agree with) was to let him go and get the best offer he can. let the market set his price. He did just that. I have no problem with the knicks matching it and neither should any of his teammates cause they could have gone out and got the same money if they could have... thats the business. is he worth that much? to the team, probably not, but we dont even know yet. but to the organization, he's worth 5 times that..

and why are we assuming that he and the rockets have a secret hand shake deal to change his contract last minute? how do we know the rockets didn't just spring it on him? is he supposed to say "nah, i want that last contract with 5 less guaranteed million"

 

[23Barrettcity]

Good point. I wish him and Landry success in their future endeavors.

I'm kind of curious about Lin too seeing as how his mentor is Yao. He might be telling him Houston is better less pressure but still a big Asian fan base . The fact that they made the poster welcoming him would be weird without his ok

 

[23Barrettcity]

this is the risk the knicks took by not giving him an offer first... their move (which i agree with) was to let him go and get the best offer he can. let the market set his price. He did just that. I have no problem with the knicks matching it and neither should any of his teammates cause they could have gone out and got the same money if they could have... thats the business. is he worth that much? to the team, probably not, but we dont even know yet. but to the organization, he's worth 5 times that..

and why are we assuming that he and the rockets have a secret hand shake deal to change his contract last minute? how do we know the rockets didn't just spring it on him? is he supposed to say "nah, i want that last contract with 5 less guaranteed million"

My only concern is he has ties to the rockets . Maybe he doesn't want to be here and to be clear I want to keep Lin and like him .

 

[thatrapsfan]

15 million in a single year? The fukk?

 

[RickyGQ]

these are fair concerns, but i dont think the knicks give a damn whether he wants to be here or not... their signing him regardless...

 

[Cory MBA]

15 million in a single year? The fukk?

Couldn't have said it better myself...