The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

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CRT alone should be a HUGE incentive for Black ppl to back Kamala and SHYT on Trump.

I can’t wrap my head around that not having been centered in these dialogues, because how can one ok one hand want reparations, yet at the same thing gloss over the fact that SLAVERY in education could get pulled.

How the FUKK was that not a bigger deal SMH?!

Even though only 16% voted for Trump, the fact that the large Black platforms didn’t zoom in on THAT in political diaslogue and they spent WAY more time on her damn race and ethnicity is mind boggling to me when there’s a COTDAMN racist white man as the other option.

Desire for whiteness is so POWERFUL..

That a clearly qualified Black woman has to be damn near perfect to get the SAME respect as a bad/mediocre white man that’s nowhere near as qualified and spits blatant racism on the regular.

It’s truly unreal.

Trump can just be, because he represents unchecked power as a white man.

And politically illiterate nikkas want what unchecked white men represent.

And it’s crazy because it be ppl that shyt like:
“I wish I had the confidence of an average white man”
for jokes to convey a real deep systemic issue.

But the moment that the issue that it represents presents itself as a test, they feed that same system they complain about.
I was literally having this same convo with my pops awhile back, as black men and women we have been somewhat conditioned to believe a white man in a business suit is simply worthy just because. Add the fact that for some people Trump "tells it like it is" (just straight up lies), and how easy it is to make and spread misinformation you have a recipe for disaster. It's exactly why some dudes will make some backhanded remarks about Kamala and about Biden in the 2020 race but will stay completely silent on Trump. You know exactly how they feel but they can't come right out and say it because you still gon get looked at funny if you ain't a white man and you back Trump.
 

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I was literally having this same convo with my pops awhile back, as black men and women we have been somewhat conditioned since slavery to believe a white man in a business suit is simply worthy just because. Add the fact that for some people Trump "tells it like it is" (just straight up lies), and how easy it is to make and spread misinformation you have a recipe for disaster. It's exactly why some dudes will make some backhanded remarks about Kamala and about Biden in the 2020 race but will stay completely silent on Trump. You know exactly how they feel but they can't come right out and say it because you still gon get looked at funny if you ain't a white man and you back Trump.
“He tells it like it is” is one of the most ridiculous incentives I’ve ever seen pop up over the years.

Politicians are ALL liars. We’re talking about AmeriKKKa.

Mexico still ain’t pay for that wall, they gloss over that and all of his countless lies bc the reasons they’re using are in bad faith.

If they really cared about politicians lying they woulda never voted for Trump of all ppl.


Like, the scale of political illiteracy is truly scary.

There’s platforms like TheBreakfastClub having access to millions of people and they be having tea parties out there giggling and shyt instead of having a political scientist, historian, anthropologist and someone with knowledge of law there to PREPARE them and hold their feed to the fire about issues that really concern BLACK PEOPLE and other minorities.

Like, do they want nikkas to be informed or not?!?!

They’re just up there giggling letting the power of that platform go to waste. It’s sad bro SMH

And nikkas really need to get realistic.
AmeriKKKa = 61% white ppl.

We can’t expect a politician to come in the game and yell:
“I’m gonna give Black ppl reparations”
I’m gonna tax the rich”
I’m gonna fix the economics”
“I understand Americs stealing resources of the Global South being the reason why immigrants move here in the first place”
“I’m gonna pull out all military bases in the Global South”

And expect that politician to win, it’s not realistic.
Let alone if that politician isn’t white.

Even if they’d WANT to do that, it would never happen because of the power of Whiteness in America.


Trump will always have the advantage because he’s WHITE in AmeriKKKa.

All Trump has to do, is trigger White Anxiety (replacement theory)
and pander to the Ruling Class with tax cuts (which is white too SMH)

And make the oppressed classes blame eachother for being oppressed, instead of White Supremacy.

To keep focus off Whiteness, White Supremacy says:
“it’s the immigrants fault you’re poor”
instead of systemic issues caused by the White Ruling Class.

That this isn’t talked about in detail regularly on big Black platforms to educate the people is so crazy to me.

Instead nikkas falling for the most obvious shyt like Trump saying:
“I’ll make China pay tariffs”

They really THINK it’s China paying for those tarrifs,
instead of them themselves for God’s sake SMH.

To think education will get even WORSE under Trump?!

Political illiteracy is already this scary low, it’s sad bro.

They really fall for this dumb shyt being fed to them SMH.

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“He tells it like it is” is one of the most ridiculous incentives I’ve ever seen pop up over the years.

Politicians are ALL liars. We’re talking about AmeriKKKa.

Mexico still ain’t pay for that wall, they gloss over that and all of his countless lies bc the reasons they’re using are in bad faith.

If they really cared about politicians lying they woulda never voted for Trump of all ppl.


Like, the scale of political illiteracy is truly scary.

There’s platforms like TheBreakfastClub having access to millions of people and they be having tea parties out there giggling and shyt instead of having a political scientist, historian, anthropologist and someone with knowledge of law there to PREPARE them and hold their feed to the fire about issues that really concern BLACK PEOPLE and other minorities.

Like, do they want nikkas to be informed or not?!?!

They’re just up there giggling letting the power of that platform go to waste. It’s sad bro SMH

And nikkas really need to get realistic.
AmeriKKKa = 61% white ppl.

We can’t expect a politician to come in the game and yell:
“I’m gonna give Black ppl reparations”
I’m gonna tax the rich”
I’m gonna fix the economics”
“I understand Americs stealing resources of the Global South being the reason why immigrants move here in the first place”
“I’m gonna pull out all military bases in the Global South”

And expect that politician to win, it’s not realistic.
Let alone if that politician isn’t white.

Even if they’d WANT to do that, it would never happen because of the power of Whiteness in America.


Trump will always have the advantage because he’s WHITE in AmeriKKKa.

All Trump has to do, is trigger White Anxiety (replacement theory)
and pander to the Ruling Class with tax cuts (which is white too SMH)

And make the oppressed classes blame eachother for being oppressed, instead of White Supremacy.

To keep focus off Whiteness, White Supremacy says:
“it’s the immigrants fault you’re poor”
instead of systemic issues caused by the White Ruling Class.

That this isn’t talked about in detail regularly on big Black platforms to educate the people is so crazy to me.

Instead nikkas falling for the most obvious shyt like Trump saying:
“I’ll make China pay tariffs”

They really THINK it’s China paying for those tarrifs,
instead of them themselves for God’s sake SMH.

To think education will get even WORSE under Trump?!

Political illiteracy is already this scary low, it’s sad bro.

They really fall for this dumb shyt being fed to them SMH.

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Yeah. The Breakfast Club and the JBP have said they voted for Kamala, but their content hasn't reflected that. The Breakfast Club had Trump's family, Republicans and conservatives on the show with little/no pushback. Charla and Envy showed up in a Trump ad, though they said they put litigation in place to block it. Joe purposely said he avoided really voicing his feelings about Kamala, while indirectly not calling out the bullshyt from Trump. He's sat there while cast members have said Kamala doesn't have the support of dudes in jail.

It's a weird in-between that's being played. Looks like they're motivated by ratings and money, but it's more at stake than that.
 

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Yeah. The Breakfast Club and the JBP have said they voted for Kamala, but their content hasn't reflected that. The Breakfast Club had Trump's family, Republicans and conservatives on the show with little/no pushback. Charla and Envy showed up in a Trump ad, though they said they put litigation in place to block it. Joe purposely said he avoided really voicing his feelings about Kamala, while indirectly not calling out the bullshyt from Trump. He's sat there while cast members have said Kamala doesn't have the support of dudes in jail.

It's a weird in-between that's being played. Looks like they're motivated by ratings and money, but it's more at stake than that.
It’s simple, if you had a white friend in the crew and a stranger asked him: Do you think slavery was bad? Do you say the N word?

And he gave a non-answer, you’d never look at him the same, because you’d understand what it means right then and there.

If you had a girl and she asked: Do you believe men should be legally able to force sex during a marriage? (rape)
And you gave her a non-answer, she’d never look at you the same.

For SOME REASON..
The types of Black men that JBP represents, that be playing #BothSides..
Are ALWAYS fiercer, harsher and more disrespectful to Democrats, while tippy toeing when it comes to Republicans. It’s intentional..

They represent very SPECIFIC type of KOONS. I’ve said it before:
There’s a couple very SPECIFIC type of male KOONS.

The contrarian: The one that thinks going against any mainstream understood, accepted and integrated science
makes them intelligent.

Like being a Flat Earther while also using GPS to move around,
which is a contradiction within itself, since its technology is built
on the fundamental understanding that the Earth is a sphere.


The BothSider, the one that thinks being on “both sides” of an argument is a testament of intellect. They’ll hear about a woman being raped while wearing a short skirt and say:

“well, I can see both sides.. She shouldn’t have been raped,

but hey when you wear a short skirt as a woman then yeah..”
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The reason those types of Black men don’t go in on Trump like that
if even at all, is because of what Trump represents:

The pinnacle of power in AmeriKKKa, the unchecked white man.

The embodiment of “white Patriarchy” in America.

nikkas don’t wanna talk about Patriarchy and get annoyed, bc they don’t understand it at its core to understand they’re harmed by it daily.

America is founded on and still is controlled by the system of white Patriarchy specifically.

Oppression from THAT is something those types of Black men that JBP nikkas represent, socially accept and condone as a norm.

Kamala is the literal living embodiment of the opposite.
The White man vs the Black woman.

That’s why they respect Trump’s authority enough to be quiet and play on the fence about him saying things they never woulda allowed anyone else to say.
While goin in on the tiniest things relating to Kamala.

They reinforce that white Patriarchal form of White Supremacy by
letting the average unchecked white man run free of accountability:
vs making the overqualified Black woman prove herself worthy.

And it doesn’t mean Kamala woulda been perfect.
Far from it, plenty of things coulda been better.

But the problem is the double-standards them type nikkas adhere to and how they rationalize them against Kamala in favor for Trump.

Marc Lamont Hill brilliantly illustrated that hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance on the show.

Mel does it regularly too, but again.. they don’t respect Mel because she’s a woman and jump her as a collective with misogynistic jokes.

They only respect it coming from Marc Lamont Hill,
bc it’s coming from another man.
Which is one of the core issues in and of itself.

They THINK this behavior is normal, bc they’ve been conditioned to respect men more, especially white men bc of how white Patriarchy has conditioned them to navigate the social hierarchy of AmeriKKKa.

White women navigate White Patriarchy by protecting it, simply bc their social position gets enough benefits that they trade it off by throwing all the other groups under the bus. Even if it comes at the expense of certain things like abortian rights.

This behavior of white women in modern times isn’t surprising given their historical role and behavior during Slavery and the Women’s Suffrage movement.

Where they were under White male rulership too..
All while oppressing all the others underneath THEM bc they got benefits in the social hierarchy by being loyal to the white Patriarchal system of Whiteness that white men built AmeriKKKa on.
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