The Official Joe Budden Podcast Thread

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That’s on me. I should have phrased it “weren’t asking” because I’m talking about before all of these issues popped off at the time the initial contracts were signed/agreements were made to enter the profit share agreement.

In the Patreon ep Joe made it clear he wasn’t sharing pertinent info about the contracts he was turning down with Rory/Mal because he was only obligated to share accounting info that they couldn’t even veto but we’re contractually obligated to see. He didn’t even tell them and/or disclose details about the deals he was turning down.

All I’m saying is if questions like “why am I signing as a profit partner when erratic ass Joe can unilaterally make the decision to turn down contracts that severely affect said profit?” was asked beforehand, those contracts probably wouldn’t have been signed. Ish is asking all the right questions relevant to his situation IMO which is why he’s not signing that contract.
They were too naive and trusting. They figured they're all friends and my man wouldn't try to snake me in the contract. And I think Joe did the same shyt record labels do where they sneak in certain language that gives the record label way more power than the artist realizes. Hell being able to decide expenses is one of the big areas record labels fukk artists by including all kinds of random shyt before breaking money out to the artists.
 

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I’ll preface this by saying “I get my info from the pod”. :russ:

From what I can tell the real issue seems to be that Joe showed numbers but they looked fugazi to Rory/Mal so they wanted to open up the books more to a deeper scan.

At this point I think all of these dudes are wrong in some fashion until somebody sues and proves their case.
Fam Joe is a straight thief. There's a reason he keeps saying "the accounting I gave you". According to Rory it was just like 5 lines on the Excel sheet. None of the expenses were broken down. Also a reason everytime they ask Joe to see the actual Spotify contract or the taxes filed Joe throws a hissy fit and refuses. He was taking money that the pod signed for and using it to try and build the network. That's also why he complained about R&M not believing in him or seeing his vision because they wanted their money instead of it being designated to something they had no financial stake in if it worked. Which Joe claims that once the network was off the ground he'd bring them aboard lol. Again on some trust me shyt. Like he's already fukking them on the original pod and yet he wants them working even more to build the network on the hope that he'd kick them some ownership stake down the line.
 

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They were too naive and trusting. They figured they're all friends and my man wouldn't try to snake me in the contract. And I think Joe did the same shyt record labels do where they sneak in certain language that gives the record label way more power than the artist realizes. Hell being able to decide expenses is one of the big areas record labels fukk artists by including all kinds of random shyt before breaking money out to the artists.
Yep. That homie deal is 100% dead when real money is involved or you know the homie you’re dealing with. Joes approach to this has been morally questionable even if he’s legally covered, ironically just like the record labels.
 

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Yep. That homie deal is 100% dead when real money is involved or you know the homie you’re dealing with. Joes approach to this has been morally questionable even if he’s legally covered, ironically just like the record labels.
In that last pod Joe said himself, there's a difference between saying "you stole money versus saying I signed a bad deal". Most of us would think signing friends that we love to a bad deal is fukked up. In Joe's mind that's business. I think R&M in their naivety signed a bad deal and Joe took advantage. I'm sure that's why R&M haven't sued.
 

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Fam Joe is a straight thief. There's a reason he keeps saying "the accounting I gave you". According to Rory it was just like 5 lines on the Excel sheet. None of the expenses were broken down. Also a reason everytime they ask Joe to see the actual Spotify contract or the taxes filed Joe throws a hissy fit and refuses. He was taking money that the pod signed for and using it to try and build the network. That's also why he complained about R&M not believing in him or seeing his vision because they wanted their money instead of it being designated to something they had no financial stake in if it worked. Which Joe claims that once the network was off the ground he'd bring them aboard lol. Again on some trust me shyt. Like he's already fukking them on the original pod and yet he wants them working even more to build the network on the hope that he'd kick them some ownership stake down the line.
Even as a longtime fan I never trusted it being named after Joe in the first place :russ: I have no doubt he would have been doing whatever with the money and rationalizing how it was none of their business :heh:
 

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Joe really thinks that he didn’t have to pay Rory and Mal after the Spotify deal ended :gucci: He’s truly acting as if that was a gift, like they weren’t working for it

He’s also lying by saying there was no money for Rory and Mal outside of the Spotify deal. How about YouTube? Why didn’t they get ANY of that money from the visual podcast episodes. They also were on tour, which is another stream of income.

As the “owner”, it’s your responsibility to pay people regardless of how much money is coming in. They’re not working for free.

He also keeps glossing over expenses and not explaining what exactly made the podcast so expensive to run. Joe Budden deciding to launch two new podcasts with 5 combined hosts and staff has zero to do with Rory and Mal. If they’re not getting a cut of those profits, why should those expenses impact they’re income?

Joe is a shyt businessman.




“Did you tell them what the deal was that you turned down?”


“No. For what? I turned it down”


Shouldn’t partners who sit behind expenses know what deals are being offered?
 

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This tickets were for his top generating completely solo tour, that's a pricing strategy.
Maximizing the average price per ticket, it seems to be rocket science to some. But it's quite basic business applied by LiveNation.
Those 5 buck tickets were if you were lucky for the last maybe 100 tickets in a 20k arena.


Jay unlike other big rappers is the only one with balls to go on tour without other big artists too.

And I'm not downloading that kids app to listen to something about Jay-z aimed at kids and nikkas who like the same content as kids :ufdup:
No those tickets were from stub hub resale. All tickets are bought by bots on Ticketmaster so of course its the top generating
 

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No those tickets were from stub hub resale. All tickets are bought by bots on Ticketmaster so of course its the top generating
That's still like 40-50 tickets you are seeing on there. You should've bought some since you were looking harder than the fans.
Taylor Swift, who was pioneered a lot of shyt when it comes to industry shyt, was anyways the first artist to use that pricing strategy and I guess you won't tell me isn't hot :mjgrin:
 

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Lol I like ish on the pod even tho that nikka be wrong and misguided bout shyt.

nikka stays true to his points and dont move goalposts




I wish these biggas would talk about bullshyt more cause that shyt be funny as hell


This nikka joe said drake better call 39 :mjlol:
 

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@CrimsonTider I'm not sure I follow the logic. First why is EIL bombing solely on Jay. Seemed more like something her fans didn't care for either, regardless of his involvement. Same way they didn't care for her Lion King soundtrack which underperformed. People will say "but it's a soundtrack" but...Black Panther was a soundtrack and that shyt was a smash

I faintly remember threads about the last (solo) Hov tour...are you saying it was an unsuccessful tour, or that most people got resale prices? I remember it selling out.

I will say this...and I don't say it as a Nas fan - I think everyone can agree I'm a level headed and fair poster on Jay/Nas: he's not dropping another album unless he finds a way to juke the numbers into handing him a gold or plat plaque. He's obsessed with that shyt. I'm not sure a 2023 Jay album does 200k first week. Might not even do 150k depending on the single.
 
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@CrimsonTider I'm not sure I follow the logic. First why is EIL bombing solely on Jay. Seemed more like something her fans didn't care for either, regardless of his involvement. Same way they didn't care for her Lion King soundtrack which underperformed. People will say "but it's a soundtrack" but...Black Panther was a soundtrack and that shyt was a smash

I faintly remember threads about the last (solo) Hov tour...are you saying it was an unsuccessful tour, or that most people got resale prices? I remember it selling out.

I will say this...and I don't say it as a Nas fan - I think everyone can agree I'm a level headed and fair poster on Jay/Nas: he's not dropping another album unless he finds a way to juke the numbers into handing him a gold or plat plaque. He's obsessed with that shyt. I'm not sure a 2023 Jay album does 200k first week. Might not even do 150k depending on the single.
I’m saying most tours sell out these days because bots by all the tickets when they go on sale on Ticketmaster and flood the resale sites.

The MCHG was Jayz highest selling tour simply because of he was able to charge more in 2013. We bought tickets for $5 because there wasn’t that much demand for the tour(the album didn’t help). Went to Saint Pablo for $10.

Compare that to WTT where the nose bleeds were going for $200.


Beyoncé fans always tolerated Jay z but after the solange incident and the fake cheating scandal they were done with. EIL is the biggest flop of all time because Beyoncé fans didn’t want to hear a collab album with Jay z.

Renaissance is the first bey album that Jay z is not apart of and its for a reason
 
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