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Loose said:
I don't, we have heard several first hand reports of activist and Palestinian/Arab members of congress going to the white house and Biden showing them zero empathy in fact, we've heard reports of him essentially telling them he doesn't care " hes seen the photos" and bringing up october 7th. Biden is absolutely an zionist( self admittedly) and may very well be a potential racist. He doesn't hold any value for the women and kids in Gaza. G
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Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think he was pushing because he cares or is empathetic. I think he was pushing because of the election and his own legacy. I also think as a sitting president you accept the loss of life as a part of the job which is why they age so much. Obama was killing people left and right.
 
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mastermind said:
There is no evidence of this.

He came out and said, with no evidence, that babies were decapitated.
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There have been reports of him being angry and frustrated in meetings with Netenyahu. I don’t think he is empathetic, nor would I expect him or any other Zionist to be towards Palestinian/non-white lives. Which is why Israel is allowed to do what it does.
 
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Squirrel from Meteor Man said:
It’s very fair that the visibility and social media aspect of the conflict has put him and his administration on center stage.

I personally never expected him to be anything more than what he is (an admitted Zionist), but I do believe he has pushed very hard behind the scenes against Netenyahu. Netenyahu just knows he has no reason or expectation to yield.

We are in a situation where we are dealing with a literal war criminal fighting for his political survival (and freedom), not a true diplomatic politician. This is why Biden is hamstrung. His approach is outdated and not fit this conflict.

I think what truly needs to be front and center is the influence AIPAC and Israel have on our politics at every level. It’s went beyond meddling to now being dangerous.
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Cap on the bolded.

Biden controls the executive branch of government. Even behind the scenes there is much more he could have done to pull YahooNeta into sullen compliance.

We're talking about the leader of the free world, and nothing happens even when he "pushes very hard behind the scenes"?

The simplest explanation: he (Biden) and his administration was prepared to go as far for YahooNeta as domestic public opinion and international credibility would permit. Any statements made about "engaging with Israel behind the scenes"... cap.
 
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NZA said:
if you are to the right of ronald reagan in the "wokest" time in american history, that is a choice
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The comparison you are making makes no sense. If 1K Jews were killed under Reagan trust me, he would have put US troops on the ground. He literally put together the evangelical coalition of the modern republican party.
The pressure from the religious right in America would have been through the roof.

Some of you cherry pick history to make a point because he called up Israel PM one time to stop dropping bombs so that means that apply in all instances. NOPE.
 
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The comparison you are making makes no sense. If 1K Jews were killed under Reagan trust me, he would have put US troops on the ground. He literally put together the evangelical coalition of the modern republican party.
The pressure from the religious right in America would have been through the roof.

Some of you cherry pick history to make a point because he called up Israel PM one time to stop dropping bombs so that means that apply in all instances. NOPE.
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1) no president would put troops on the ground for a one day attack
2) Reagan was critical, restricted military aid, or withheld veto for Israeli criticism in international forums on a whole host of issues throughout his presidency. biden has done the opposite every time. he absolutely has been to the right of Reagan in every way on Israel.
 
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NZA said:
1) no president would put troops on the ground for a one day attack
2) Reagan was critical, restricted military aid, or withheld veto for Israeli criticism in international forums on a whole host of issues throughout his presidency. biden has done the opposite every time. he absolutely has been to the right of Reagan in every way on Israel.
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You want me to belive the father of the Christian evangelical movement in politics will behave differently after 1K Jews are killed.
Good luck selling that. Nothing like this happened in his time and Reagan would have sent troops to Israel if that happened.

Reagan never had to deal with this type of killing of Jews. Some of you make up stories in your mind to make yourselves feel better.

AIPAC became really powerful under the Reagan presidency. Just stop it...find a different president. Reagan ain't it.
 
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