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A court order is carried out by a military or police enforcement. Who is going to enforce this order?
I see we've arrived at the Andrew Jackson stage of just brazenly, flagrantly disregarding the very institution of international law and human rights. Might makes right. The neocon-ification of Liberals is something to behold.
 

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I see we've arrived at the Andrew Jackson stage of just brazenly, flagrantly disregarding the very institution of international law and human rights. Might makes right. The neocon-ification of Liberals is something to behold.

It was obvious when they were scolding protestors of genocide to "zip it until after the election". That and their actions after their dear candidate lost, just goes to show they never cared.

And when you get a retard liberal like @voiture saying, "oh Rhodesia is a bad example, I'd use the genocide of Native Americans" as if it makes it better...

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I see we've arrived at the Andrew Jackson stage of just brazenly, flagrantly disregarding the very institution of international law and human rights. Might makes right. The neocon-ification of Liberals is something to behold.
The ICC IS not even recognized by the US.
Also Putin is still walking around so we know this ruling is bullshyt
 

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How do you reason with people like this who belive their Allah is going to grant them victory in the after life over Israel?


What are we doing here? Madness....Israel has to win. They have to. They are not dealing with people who deal in logic.
Israel was founded by white people off the belief that they are the “Chosen People”. Please tell me again how they are not also religious fanatics hellbent on genociding a people to fulfill their own understanding of their religious beliefs?

The fact you are saying Israel “has” to win only reinforces the fact you are no less a religious fanatic than a Hamas soldier. Maybe because you’re white you think it’s different.
 

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Israel has been funded for decades. Putting it on Biden when literally every US president since the 40s has given them an infinite war chest is disingenuous.
I don't think anyone thinks Biden is the only American President with Palestinian blood on his hands, but the explicit and clear evidence we're able to witness with our very eyes of the Palestinian Genocide of 2024 has heightened to incredible levels the contradictions between the ostensible values of America/Democrats and the reality of what is being supported. But you're absolutely correct, we must not absolve the rest of the American elite decision maker consensus for the history of this conflict.
 

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Israel has been funded for decades. Putting it on Biden when literally every US president since the 40s has given them an infinite war chest is disingenuous.

It's not just Biden. It's a bipartisan support for a genocidal apartheid regime that transcends presidents.

I do think that if someone in the presidency suddenly decided to cut off Israel that there would be a severe pushback from Congress and the civil service establishment in the DoD and DoS
 

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I don't think anyone thinks Biden is the only American President with Palestinian blood on his hands, but the explicit and clear evidence we're able to witness with our very eyes of the Palestinian Genocide of 2024 has heightened to incredible levels the contradictions between the ostensible values of America/Democrats and the reality of what is being supported.
It’s very fair that the visibility and social media aspect of the conflict has put him and his administration on center stage.

I personally never expected him to be anything more than what he is (an admitted Zionist), but I do believe he has pushed very hard behind the scenes against Netenyahu. Netenyahu just knows he has no reason or expectation to yield.

We are in a situation where we are dealing with a literal war criminal fighting for his political survival (and freedom), not a true diplomatic politician. This is why Biden is hamstrung. His approach is outdated and not fit this conflict.

I think what truly needs to be front and center is the influence AIPAC and Israel have on our politics at every level. It’s went beyond meddling to now being dangerous.
 

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Israel was founded by white people off the belief that they are the “Chosen People”. Please tell me again how they are not also religious fanatics hellbent on genociding a people to fulfill their own understanding of their religious beliefs?

The fact you are saying Israel “has” to win only reinforces the fact you are no less a religious fanatic than a Hamas soldier. Maybe because you’re white you think it’s different.
America was founded by a bunch of white Europeans as well. So what's your point. The native Americans were not winning that fight either. Palestinians need to take a deal ( no matter how bad) and call it a day.
They are not winning this.
I think they know that too which is why they keep making the afterlife references.

In the real world they know it's a done deal. Their Allah is not sending an army from anywhere to fight.

The only thing that has been consistent in last 80 years is that when violence erupts, Israel gets more land. They can take lessons from history or keep up the mental illness.
 

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America was founded by a bunch of white Europeans as well. So what's your point. The native Americans were not winning that fight either. Palestinians need to take a deal ( no matter how bad) and call it a day.
They are not winning this.
I think they know that too which is why they keep making the afterlife references.

In the real world they know it's a done deal. Their Allah is not sending an army from anywhere to fight.

The only thing that has been consistent in last 80 years is that when violence erupts, Israel gets more land. They can take lessons from history or keep up the mental illness.
So you are going to completely ignore the religious fanaticism I described regarding Israel? Typical.

Israel exists off the belief that they are “chosen” by “their God” as you put it. They commit atrocities, force people out their land, and kick people out of their country based on religion. What makes you and them any different from a Hamas soldier? Are they any less mentally ill because they’re “winning” according to you?

You just said Israel “has” to win. Is that not fanatical to you?
 

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So you are going to completely ignore the religious fanaticism I described regarding Israel? Typical.

Israel exists off the belief that they are “chosen” by “their God” as you put it. They commit atrocities, force people out their land, and kick people out of their country based on religion. What makes you and them any different from a Hamas soldier? Are they any less mentally ill because they’re “winning” according to you?

You just said Israel “has” to win. Is that not fanatical to you?
Al-asqa mosque sits on a Jewish temple.
Both parties have claim to the land. The Jews have the upper hand now, either deal with reality or keep wallowing in fantasy of an afterlife punishment for Jews.

I don't want any of those religious fanatics with those belives anywhere near government whether Jewish or Palestinian.
 

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, but I do believe he has pushed very hard behind the scenes against Netenyahu. Netenyahu just knows he has no reason or expectation to yield.
I don't, we have heard several first hand reports of activist and Palestinian/Arab members of congress going to the white house and Biden showing them zero empathy in fact, we've heard reports of him essentially telling them he doesn't care " hes seen the photos" and bringing up october 7th. Biden is absolutely an zionist( self admittedly) and may very well be a potential racist. He doesn't hold any value for the women and kids in Gaza. G
 

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I don't, we have heard several first hand reports of activist and Palestinian/Arab members of congress going to the white house and Biden showing them zero empathy in fact, we've heard reports of him essentially telling them he doesn't care " hes seen the photos" and bringing up october 7th. Biden is absolutely an zionist( self admittedly) and may very well be a potential racist. He doesn't hold any value for the women and kids in Gaza. G
The Arabs in Dearborn Michigan voted for Trump or 3rd party. Explain to me why I should care about them getting fukked in Palestine if they dont care about me getting ruled by a fascist here in America.
 
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