The Official Israel-Gaza Thread

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Every dog has its day

 

[NZA]

Do you really think ISIS operates in Gaza?

Hamas seeks to stamp out Isis in Gaza

Challenge from jihadi supporters comes as ruling group faces criticism

www.ft.com

Hamas claims to arrest senior Islamic State leaders in Gaza

Terror group is mending relations with Egypt, which is fighting a bitter conflict with IS in the Sinai

www.timesofisrael.com

Hezbollah media: Hamas arrests ISIS cells operating for Israel

Hamas' security services allegedly uncovered a "dangerous plan" of Israeli intelligence "working under the cover of ISIS-affiliated cells."

www.jpost.com

The IDF denied having had any involvement in the Gazan attacks, according to Walla, as the Hamas-controlled Gazan Ministry of Interior claimed the bombings took place shortly after a Hamas skirmish with IDF troops.
In October, Hamas blamed Israel for "getting to youth with extremist Salafi thoughts," contacting and directing them to carry out suicide attacks against Hamas targets in August, according to Al-Akhbar.

The Gazan Ministry of Interior reportedly issued a statement over the weekend, saying Hamas forces "discovered suspicious movements of a number of people," beginning "extensive investigations" leading to their arrests over the following days.

 

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Hamas seeks to stamp out Isis in Gaza

Challenge from jihadi supporters comes as ruling group faces criticism

www.ft.com

Hamas claims to arrest senior Islamic State leaders in Gaza

Terror group is mending relations with Egypt, which is fighting a bitter conflict with IS in the Sinai

www.timesofisrael.com

Hezbollah media: Hamas arrests ISIS cells operating for Israel

Hamas' security services allegedly uncovered a "dangerous plan" of Israeli intelligence "working under the cover of ISIS-affiliated cells."

www.jpost.com

The IDF denied having had any involvement in the Gazan attacks, according to Walla, as the Hamas-controlled Gazan Ministry of Interior claimed the bombings took place shortly after a Hamas skirmish with IDF troops.
In October, Hamas blamed Israel for "getting to youth with extremist Salafi thoughts," contacting and directing them to carry out suicide attacks against Hamas targets in August, according to Al-Akhbar.

The Gazan Ministry of Interior reportedly issued a statement over the weekend, saying Hamas forces "discovered suspicious movements of a number of people," beginning "extensive investigations" leading to their arrests over the following days.

You need to read those articles again and the last one with a heavy dose of skepticism lol

IS really doesn't operate at any meaningful level in Gaza

 

[Outlaw]

Disingenuously minimizing a barbaric genocide to simply “a response to a terrorist attack” is nasty work

You are lacking context. Vietnam occurred before the internet and the smartphone and thus the democratization of the internet and access to information.

Governments can’t get away with massacres like Vietnam and control the narrative anymore. That’s the reason why the United States wants tik tok banned right now.

All war is barbaric. The only reason you care more about this one is because of the internet. You just proved my point. America was directly responsible for the atrocities in Vietnam but your response is it was before cell phones.

Tik tok should be transferred to an American company because the Chinese government is using it to sow discontent. I know youths that are being shown palestianian trauma porn on their tik tok feed even though they are completely apolitical, and haven’t searched for that content before. A normal algorithm wouldn’t be showing them that type of stuff otherwise.

Why aren’t American youths shown videos involuntarily about the uyghur genocide I wonder.

 

[Outlaw]

this is such an unserious post. Its like saying "US slavery was much worse than this."

My post was in response to you saying America was losing moral high ground to deal with bad actors like that even means anything. Anyone who is aware of history knows America has been doing dirt since it’s inception. Us supporting an ally isn’t going to change anything

 

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[88m3]

whose to say? It's certainly possible it's double or even triple or it could even be half of what Hamas has claimed.

Hamas should surrender and end this war whatever the case. Hamas has been a disaster for the Palestinian people.

 

[Blackgate]

They keep attacking Israel and Israel keeps getting more land. It has been the story of the last 70 years. Rational actors would have learned by now but unfortunately they are dealing with terrorists so here we are.

israel is pillaging. pillaging land is barbaric. i dont think war gives israel the right to steal everything from palestinians.

 

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Majority in U.S. Now Disapprove of Israeli Action in Gaza

A majority of U.S. adults now disapprove of Israel's military action in Gaza, a shift from the prior survey in November.

news.gallup.com

Majority in U.S. Now Disapprove of Israeli Action in Gaza​

Approval has dropped from 50% to 36% since November​

BY JEFFREY M. JONES

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- After narrowly backing Israel’s military action in Gaza in November, Americans now oppose the campaign by a solid margin. Fifty-five percent currently disapprove of Israel’s actions, while 36% approve.

The latest results are from a March 1-20 survey. The Israel-Hamas war has continued for five months and has resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of Palestinians and over 1,000 Israelis. Major parts of Gaza have been destroyed, complicating efforts to deliver humanitarian aid to Palestinian civilians still living there. The United Nations and international community, including the Biden administration, have called for a cease-fire, but the two warring sides have been unable to agree.

The poll was completed before the U.N. Security Council on Monday passed a resolution calling for a cease-fire during Ramadan. The measure passed because the United States abstained rather than vetoing the resolution. The U.S. had previously vetoed other resolutions calling for a cease-fire.

Seventy-four percent of U.S. adults say they are following news of the Israeli-Hamas situation closely, similar to the 72% Gallup measured in November. One-third of Americans (34%) say they are following the situation “very closely.”

Disapproval of Israel’s military action is similar regardless of how much attention Americans are paying to the conflict. However, those paying less attention are more likely than their counterparts to have no opinion on the matter, resulting in lower approval than seen among people paying greater attention.

Republicans Retain Positive Stance; Independents Decidedly Negative​

All three major party groups in the U.S. have become less supportive of Israel’s actions in Gaza than they were in November. This includes declines of 18 percentage points in approval among both Democrats and independents and a seven-point decline among Republicans.

Independents have shifted from being divided in their views of the Israeli military action to opposing it. Democrats, who were already largely opposed in November, are even more so now, with 18% approving and 75% disapproving.

Republicans still support Israel’s military efforts, but a reduced majority -- 64%, down from 71% -- now approve.

Democrats’ widespread opposition to Israel’s actions underscores the difficulty of the issue for President Joe Biden among his most loyal supporters. Some Democratic critics believe Biden has been too closely aligned with Israel by not taking stronger actions to promote a cease-fire and to assist Palestinian civilians caught in the war zone.

Biden’s approval rating for his handling of the situation in the Middle East, at 27%, is his lowest among five issues tested in the survey. This is because far fewer Democrats (47%) approve of how he is handling the situation between the Israelis and Palestinians than approve of his handling of the economy, the environment, energy policy and foreign affairs, broadly. On those issues, no less than 66% of Democrats approve of Biden.

Only further contributing to Biden’s low rating on the Middle East situation, just 21% of independents and 16% of Republicans approve of his performance on the issue.

Still, it appears that the Middle East conflict has not taken an obvious toll on Biden’s political standing. His overall job approval rating is 40%, compared with 37% in October and November surveys, perhaps being lifted by Americans’ greater confidence in the U.S. economy.

Bottom Line​

As the Israel-Hamas war drags on, U.S. support for its ally’s actions in the war is slipping. This follows Gallup’s February poll finding that Americans hold less positive views of both Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

Like many issues, U.S. partisans find themselves on opposing sides. Most Republicans, though fewer than in the fall, support Israel's actions, while the vast majority of Democrats are opposed. Independents’ opinions are now much closer to those of Democrats.

Although Americans rate Biden's handling of the conflict poorly, his overall job approval rating is no lower now than before the conflict began. The issue does not register highly when Americans are asked to name the most important problem facing the U.S. Nor does it rank highly when Americans rate each of several international issues as critical threats to U.S. vital interests. It could hurt the president by dampening turnout among would-be Biden voters who care deeply about the issue and are upset with his handling of the situation.

To stay up to date with the latest Gallup News insights and updates, follow us on X.

Learn more about how the Gallup Poll Social Series works.

View complete question responses and trends (PDF download).

 

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israel is pillaging. pillaging land is barbaric. i dont think war gives israel the right to steal everything from palestinians.

He's being disingenuous. He knows that the land being stolen is in the West Bank and has nothing to do with what's going on in Gaza.
Not worth taking the bait, you can't reason with people who agree with genocide.

 

[88m3]

Gaza

Is Hamas still at war with Israel?

 

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State department official’s resignation highlights rifts over US Gaza policy

Annelle Sheline says ‘I no longer wanted to be affiliated with this administration,’ claiming Biden is flouting US law over Israel

www.theguardian.com

State department official’s resignation highlights rifts over US Gaza policy​

Annelle Sheline says ‘I no longer wanted to be affiliated with this administration,’ claiming Biden is flouting US law over Israel


A human rights official has resigned from the US state department over Gaza saying the Biden administration is flouting US law by continuing to arm Israel, and is hushing up evidence that the US had seen on Israeli human rights abuses.

Annelle Sheline, said she had hoped to have an influence on policy by staying at her post in the Near Eastern section of the bureau of democracy, human rights and labor, taking part in discussions, signing dissent cables and raising her concerns with her supervisor. But she had lost confidence she could do anything that would affect the flow of US arms to Israel.

“The fundamental reason was – I no longer wanted to be affiliated with this administration,” Sheline told the Guardian. “I have a young daughter. She’s not yet two, but if some day in the future, she is learning about this and knows that I was at the state department and she asked me [about it] – I want to be able to tell her that I did what I could.”

Sheline is only the second state department official to resign over US policy on the Gaza war (another official left the education department over the issue), but she said that many of her colleagues had told her they would resign if they could afford to lose their job, and had urged her to speak out about her reasons for quitting, rather than to leave quietly.


The 38-year-old, who studied the foreign policy of Arab governments for her doctorate, said the state department was aware of plenty of evidence that Israel was violating international law in its conduct of the Gaza war, and that the Biden administration was violating US law by continuing to supply weapons.

She pointed in particular to the Leahy laws, which forbid assistance to foreign military units implicated in atrocities, and section 620 (I) of the Foreign Assistance Act, which states that no assistance should be given to any government which “prohibits or otherwise restricts, directly or indirectly, the transport or delivery of United States humanitarian assistance”.

On Monday, the state department said it had received assurances from Israel officials and “not found them to be in violation of international humanitarian law”. But Sheline said: “The law is clear here and we do have evidence. But the specifics are just not being followed.”

The state department has said it is reviewing evidence of civilian harm under a mechanism established by the Biden administration last year, weeks before the Gaza war broke out, but Sheline said the results of those investigations would only be made public when the White House wanted them to be.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/18/us-supply-weapons-israel-alleged-abuses-human-rights
“There are a lot of people working on this at State but at the end of the day, the public policy does have to be something that the White House signs off on,” Sheline said. “Until the White House is ready to take a different line, some of the other things happening in State are just not going to come out.”

She said she believed administration policy was being driven by domestic political considerations, but argued that domestic politics were shifting on the issue, pointing to the significant “uncommitted” protest vote in the Democratic presidential primary election, and suggested that the Biden administration had misjudged the mood.

“I do think the president’s view of Israel is deeply influenced by a generational divide,” she said. “I think it’s taken this administration a long time to realise that the previous political calculus on this, in terms of big donors, in terms of the Israel lobby, … is seeing a shift.”

On Wednesday, Gallup published a new poll showing a significant drop in American public support for Israel’s conduct of the war, from 50% in November to 36% now, with 55% disapproving of Israel’s actions.

Sheline credited this shift for helping lead to the US abstention on a UN security council resolution on Monday, allowing it to pass after the US vetoed three earlier draft texts over the nearly six months since the war started.

“I am glad to see that slight shift, but it hasn’t really made any difference to the people in Gaza yet,” Sheline said. “So it’s really too little, too late.

“Not only are these policies devastating the people of Gaza, but I think they’re also devastating the US image in the world,” she argued. “This administration came in promising to rebuild American diplomacy and America’s moral leadership after the Trump administration, but so many of these issues that the administration said were so important – including human rights – seem to be less important to this administration than the US-Israel relationship.”

 

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