The Official Israel-Gaza Thread

[Outlaw]

Liberals oppose every war except the one going on in that moment and support every civil/human rights movement except for the one going on right in front of them.

Prime examples of this are the Iraq War and our own Civil Rights Movement. They're much closer to being fascists (Hence why they're always more than willing to get in bed with fascists on policies rather than leftists) than they are to holding any kind of leftists ideals/beliefs of changing our world to a better place and prove it every fukking day.

People tend to forget that in Nazi Germany the Liberals cut backroom deals with the Nazis and we're more than willing to get in bed with them as long their own interests and the interests of capital weren't interfered with.

There's a reason they murdered all the socialists and communists first, because they had actual beliefs and would've fought Hitler to the last man before just handing over the government had they not been betrayed and exterminated.

Communist countries are way closer to being authoritarian fascist than liberal countries are.

Stalin actually allied himself with Hitler, no liberal country did.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Communist countries are way closer to being authoritarian fascist than liberal countries are.

Stalin actually allied himself with Hitler, no liberal country did.

Trade agreements and non-aggression pacts and being allied aren't even remotely close to being the same thing. Not that I'd expect you know that or care because this post was clearly not made in good faith. It would be like saying the United States and China are allies because of our trade partnerships.

Unfortunately for you some of us actually know the history of World War 2. Also, saying that a communist country is close to being "fascist" is comedy and another clueless American that that doesn't remotely understand political ideology.

People frequently confused fascism and authoritarianism. Any government can be authoritarian, including our own police state authoritarian government here in the US

I mean Christ even the US still had trade agreements with the German's for a solid part of the 1930's. Would you call them our allies during that time?

You can make these kinds of shytty dap hunting posts in TLR but it's not going to fly in HL.

 

[88m3]

they invaded Poland together and divided it

the Nazis also supported Soviet Union in their first invasion of Finland



I mean by all means defend the Nazis, Soviet Union, and Stalin



let the mask fall off


IT'S noT faSCist, tOtAliTariAnism gOoD, BEST evEN!


really to get to splitting hairs

they both killed Jews at least amirite

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

they invaded Poland together and divided it

the Nazis also supported Soviet Union in their first invasion of Finland



I mean by all means defend the Nazis, Soviet Union, and Stalin



let the mask fall off


IT'S noT faSCist, tOtAliTariAnism gOoD, BEST evEN!


really to get to splitting hairs

they both killed Jews at least amirite

Yes that was part of the deal struck in their non aggression

The soviets also took down the Germans and won WW2. But feel free to ignore that part

Also I've never met a poster who will read one thing and then just make shyt up in his head. Anything to defend is his pro genocide positions

Not to mention, y'all are changing the subject to somehow paint the leftists anti war position as somehow authortarian??? Which makes like no sense at all.

Normal person:"Hey you guys should stop bombing all those kids"

@88m3 OMG HOW CAN YOU BE SO EVIL. YOURE A FASCIST YOUR INSANE.

Once again What in the fukk is wrong with you?

 

[88m3]

Maybe it's totalitarianism that you guys really find so appealing, that could explain the love for Assad, Hamas, Iran and etc...

hmm

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

I'm still waiting on a liberal to explain how being anti war is authoritarian or fascist?

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Maybe it's totalitarianism that you guys really find so appealing, that could explain the love for Assad, Hamas, Iran and etc...

hmm

The part in bold is why you sound so fukking stupid and look like a complete maniac when discussing this stuff. It's literally the play book the IDF uses to defend their genocidal actions and you're doing the same thing.

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

Yes that was part of the deal struck in their non aggression

The soviets also took down the Germans and won WW2. But feel free to ignore that part

Also I've never met a poster who will read one thing and then just make shyt up in his head. Anything to defend is his pro genocide positions

Not to mention, y'all are changing the subject to somehow paint the leftists anti war position as somehow authortarian??? Which makes like no sense at all.

Normal person:"Hey you guys should stop bombing all those kids"

@88m3 OMG HOW CAN YOU BE SO EVIL. YOURE A FASCIST YOUR INSANE.

Once again What in the fukk is wrong with you?

Please don't make me post the Sartre quote again.

He is trolling you. He has done nothing but troll about this since the beginning. You're arguing with a guy who literally agrees with genocide; You're never going to get an honest conversation out of him. It's a waste of time.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

Please don't make me post the Sartre quote again.

He is trolling you. He has done nothing but troll about this since the beginning. You're arguing with a guy who literally agrees with genocide; You're never going to get an honest conversation out of him. It's a waste of time.

It's just so crazy to me how someone can be that fukking unhinged about this conflict. Like how can someone be this invested in seeing a bunch of people die like that especially 15K kids. Guys brain is completely fried

Like the death tool numbers are fukking appalling. I cannot figure out how someone with any kind of morality can support this shyt after seeing those numbers and hearing statements from the Israeli officials saying straight up that this is their goal.

There is nothing to be gained from this. Nothing

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

It's just so crazy to me how someone can be that fukking unhinged about this conflict. Like how can someone be this invested in seeing a bunch of people die like that especially 15K kids. Guys brain is completely fried

Like the death tool numbers are fukking appalling. I cannot figure out how someone with any kind of morality can support this shyt after seeing those numbers and hearing statements from the Israeli officials saying straight up that this is their goal.

There is nothing to be gained from this. Nothing

I don't get it either, but it's clear that he's a huge racist.
He has not been shy in showing his contempt for Arabs/Muslims. He wants them to die. You can't reason with with someone who has such an unreasonable position. He knows he can't defend his stance, so he lies, creates straw men and projects. You're not going to get anything out of going back and forth with him.

 

[Outlaw]

Trade agreements and non-aggression pacts and being allied aren't even remotely close to being the same thing. Not that I'd expect you know that or care because this post was clearly not made in good faith. It would be like saying the United States and China are allies because of our trade partnerships.

Unfortunately for you some of us actually know the history of World War 2. Also, saying that a communist country is close to being "fascist" is comedy and another clueless American that that doesn't remotely understand political ideology.

People frequently confused fascism and authoritarianism. Any government can be authoritarian, including our own police state authoritarian government here in the US

I mean Christ even the US still had trade agreements with the German's for a solid part of the 1930's. Would you call them our allies during that time?

You can make these kinds of shytty dap hunting posts in TLR but it's not going to fly in HL.

The complete irony of you saying you actually know the history of WW2. Germany and The Soviet Union invaded Poland together. The only reason the Soviet Union fought Germany is because Hitler turned on them first.

I never said communist were fascist but there is a big overlap on how they govern from an authoritarian manner.

The fact that you defend these authoritarian communist nations is insane. You have absolutely no sympathy for the millions slaughtered by Stalin and Mao but you want me to believe you actually have genuine sympathy for the Palestinians? GTFOH.

You’re definitely not coming from a genuine place tankie.

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

The complete irony of you saying you actually know the history of WW2. Germany and The Soviet Union invaded Poland together. The only reason the Soviet Union fought Germany is because Hitler turned on them first.

I never said communist were fascist but there is a big overlap on how they govern from an authoritarian manner.

The fact that you defend these authoritarian communist nations is insane. You have absolutely no sympathy for the millions slaughtered by Stalin and Mao but you want me to believe you actually have genuine sympathy for the Palestinians? GTFOH.

You’re definitely not coming from a genuine place tankie.

What the fukk are you even talking about?

I'm still waiting on a liberal to explain how being anti war is authoritarian or fascist position

 

[Godless Socialist CEO]

I don't get it either, but it's clear that he's a huge racist.
He has not been shy in showing his contempt for Arabs/Muslims. He wants them to die. You can't reason with with someone who has such an unreasonable position. He knows he can't defend his stance, so he lies, creates straw men and projects. You're not going to get anything out of going back and forth with him.

i just want one of them to explain how being anti war and anti imperialist is an authoritarian position which they keep avoiding

Their insistence on changing the topic to some kind of brain critique of communism or socialism is so weird and just flooding the zone is absolute Nazis in order defend genocidal actions. It’s absolutely insane

 

[88m3]

Yes that was part of the deal struck in their non aggression

The soviets also took down the Germans and won WW2. But feel free to ignore that part

Also I've never met a poster who will read one thing and then just make shyt up in his head. Anything to defend is his pro genocide positions

You made it sound like this innocuous thing that it absolutely fukking was not, Mr. I know WW2 history. Again they divided fukking Poland and committed war crimes galore there including transferring their unwanted populations amongst each other so they could be exterminated. The Nazis also supported the Soviet Union with direct military aid in their invasion of Finland. This wasn't some polite deal amongst clerks to keep goods moving. The horror show that was the Soviet Union started well before they linked up with the Nazis by then they'd already murdered millions.

Sowing the Wind: The First Soviet-German Military Pact and the Origins of World War II

Before dawn on June 22, 1941, German bombers began to rain destruction down on a swath of Soviet cities from Leningrad to Sevastopol. It was the beginning

warontherocks.com

Gestapo–NKVD conferences - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Germany–Soviet Union relations, 1918–1941 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I have to errands so I'll leave it there for now. Apologies on the wiki links.


I never said the Soviet Union didn't contribute to the Allied victory(RIP to the millions of soldiers who selflessly fought). I took issue with you trying to whitewash Nazi and Soviet collaboration. Hopefully you'll take the time to reassess your views on the subject.

This last line is just more projection from you. Read what I actually actually above and my original response to you. Nothing to do with defeating Germany.

 

[Outlaw]

What the fukk are you even talking about?

You defend the Soviet Union and communist China who are responsible for the death of millions yet you have a soft spot for the Palestinians? The math ain’t mathing