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TENET said:
Ballacks :lolbron: . Even in style Gullit is more like Ballack.

Also Rijkaard was nothing like Yaya. Rijkaard was a defensive MF, Yaya was not.

But let's leave it there.

Wear Ole football googles brehs :lolbron:

"Franklin "Frank" Edmundo Rijkaard (Dutch pronunciation: [ˈfrɑŋk ˈɛdmuːn.doː ˈrɛi̯kaːrt] ( listen); born 30 September 1962) is a Dutch former footballer and former manager who played as a midfielder or defender. Rijkaard played for Ajax, Real Zaragoza and Milan and represented the Netherlands national team side 73 times, scoring 10 goals. In his managerial career, he was at the helm of the Netherlands national team, Sparta Rotterdam, Barcelona, Galatasaray and the Saudi Arabia national team.

Regarded as one of the best defensive midfielders in footballing history and as one of the best players of his generation,[2][3] in 2010 Rijkaard was described by British broadsheet The Daily Telegraph as having been "a stylish player of faultless pedigree".[4]"

"Ballack is considered to be one of the most complete and versatile midfielders of his generation;[50] he played in several midfield positions during his career, and was noted for his powerful shot with both feet.[3] Due to his tall frame, he was also known for his ability in the air, which made him a goal threat on set pieces.[51]

On a technical level, he was a commanding, physically strong and aggressive player, with excellent passing range, who moved the ball efficiently.[3] The technicality and intelligence of his game was extremely high. He started his football career as a sweeper,[52] but when he moved to Leverkusen in 1999, then-coach Christoph Daum moved him to midfield. He adapted to a deeper role during his spell at Chelsea.

In 2011, Ballack's international coach at the time, Joachim Löw, praised him, describing him as a player who "exudes authority and calm on the pitch".[53]"

"A complete and versatile player, Gullit epitomised the ethos of Total Football as he was naturally adept in several positions, and was capable of aiding his team defensively as well as offensively due to his work-rate, ball-winning abilities, and tactical intelligence in addition to his skill and physical qualities.[25] Normally deployed as an attacking midfielder or as a second striker, he was capable of playing anywhere in midfield or along the front-line, on either wing or even in the centre, and could also play as a sweeper.[7] Regarded as one of the greatest players of all time,[26] his foremost attribute was his athleticism, as he used his strength and speed, combined with his technique, to great effect; he was also strong in the air, as he was tall, powerful, and an excellent jumper.[25][27] Yet, unusually for a man of his stature, Gullit was an elegant player, who also possessed outstanding natural balance, poise, technical ability, and dribbling skills, which gave a graceful style to his game.[25] Gullit also was noted for his intelligence, creativity, vision, and spatial abilities, qualities that helped him score goals early in his career and enabled him to play in a deeper role as a playmaker late in his days, where he was known for creating chances for teammates.[25] Gullit thus combined physical presence with flair, mental acuity, formidable technique and natural touch, to become an iconic figure in world football.[25][28] He was also an accurate free kick taker.[29] Beyond his qualities as a footballer, Gullit also stood for his leadership and tenacity.[30] Despite his talent, however, he struggled with injuries throughout his career, which later affected his fitness.[25][31]"
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So why did you leave this part out of Rijkaards wiki.

Regarded as one of the greatest players in his position, Rijkaard was a quick, strong, complete and tenacious defensive midfielder who was praised by pundits throughout his career for his physical and athletic attributes, his work rate, positioning, his acute tactical intelligence and decision-making, as well as his outstanding consistency and ability to read the game. Due to his aggression and versatility, he was also capable of playing as a central or box-to-box midfielder, and even in a defensive role, usually in the centre.[10] Although Rijkaard was known as strong tackler, he was surprisingly elegant for a player of his size, and also possessed good technique, passing ability, link-up play, and vision, which made him adept at starting attacking plays as a deep-lying playmaker once he won back possession;[10][11] because of his technical skills and creative abilities, he was also capable of playing in more advanced roles, as an attacking midfielder or second striker. Due to his height and physical strength, he excelled in the air, and also possessed a powerful shot; furthermore, he was capable of getting forward and contributing to his team's attacking plays with goals by making late runs into the penalty area.[2][3][12][13]
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A lot of the things you left out about Rijkaard, seems very similar to what Yaya could do.:jbhmm:

The Gullit im talking about was playing SS or as a Wing. But Gullit when he was winning with Holland and AC he was a SS. But let me use the Gullit description that you put up. Just reading it seems more like a combination of Henry and Drogba, than Ballack does.

his foremost attribute was his athleticism, as he used his strength and speed, combined with his technique, to great effect; he was also strong in the air, as he was tall, powerful, and an excellent jumper.[25][27] Yet, unusually for a man of his stature, Gullit was an elegant player, who also possessed outstanding natural balance, poise, technical ability, and dribbling skills, which gave a graceful style to his game.[25] Gullit also was noted for his intelligence, creativity, vision, and spatial abilities, qualities that helped him score goals early in his career and enabled him to play in a deeper role as a playmaker late in his days, where he was known for creating chances for teammates.[25] Gullit thus combined physical presence with flair, mental acuity, formidable technique and natural touch,
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I think you are the one wearing Ole tainted goggles.
 
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Kunty McPhuck said:
:ufdup:

So why did you leave this part out of Rijkaards wiki.

A lot of the things you left out about Rijkaard, seems very similar to what Yaya could do.:jbhmm:

The Gullit im talking about was playing SS or as a Wing. But Gullit when he was winning with Holland and AC he was a SS. But let me use the Gullit description that you put up. Just reading it seems more like a combination of Henry and Drogba, than Ballack does.

I think you are the one wearing Ole tainted goggles.
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Anyway doesn't matter.

:yeshrug:

If you are saying that Gullit played more like Yaya than he did Ballack then what can I say

:yeshrug:

Does anyone else here have an opinion on that?
 
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franz beckenbauer or gerrard mueller?:wow:

tough choice.
my dad saw mueller and beckenbauer play live in germany and he would always go on about mueller
man, germany has had some top players
me , personally grew up watching lothar mattheus, litbarski,klinnsman, brehme,
that 1990 world cup winning german team is one of the best ever
 
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Black Magisterialness said:
To be fair, that must be the feeling in London. I'm in the states and we never understood the Wilshire thing. A good player, but made of popsicle sticks.
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in my opinion, if both stayed fit and did not have the injuries they had, wilshere would've ended up being the better player.
i still believe this to this day.
i just initially saw more in wilshere than in rambo.
unfortunately rambo met that stoke motherfukker and wilshere couldn't stay fit.
rambo eventually overtook him
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TENET said:
:whoa::whoa: ok let's agree to disagree ...

if anyone else has an opinion then chime in ..

them Ole specs sure are powerful :whew:
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Show me where I said it?

If you was to combine Henry, Drogba and Yaya
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Gullit, played as SS, W, AM. So he was as versatile as Yaya was
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Rijkaard is more Yaya style wise than Gullit is. Im talking about Gullit versatility. He could play and do everything in the attack, like Yaya could do in midfield and there would be no drop off in whatever position he played. Gullit is more like Henry/Drogba as a player stylistically but his adaptability thru out his career is like Yaya.
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You need to check your Ole specs

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Just admit you phucked up. And go and have a Stein and German Sausage platter
 
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Kunty McPhuck said:
Show me where I said it?

You need to check your Ole specs

:ufdup:

Just admit you phucked up. And go and have a Stein and German Sausage platter
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It's over breh ... :salute: I am right and you are right. I just don't do back-and-forth so am not going to spend time to show you how you are wrong.

It is time to grow up and learn to keep-it-moving :ufdup:. Nothing lost, nothing gained.

If anyone else has an opinion let them speak.
 
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