Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - 'We will not be there.' - Pep Fraudiola

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If you was to combine Henry, Drogba and Yaya you get Gullit.

When Gullit was the best player in the world, dedicated his Ballon d'Or to Mandela :wow:

Gullits first season at Sampdoria, even just a bit past his peak :wow:

Gullit didn't have the short passing, running style, running intensity, running penetration MF style or ability of Yaya. Gullit would not be suited to a Pep team.

Gullit is more like Ballack than Yaya, Drogba or Henry in terms of his MF, DF and attacking play.

Ballack + Zlatan == Gullit :ufdup:
 

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Gullit didn't have the short passing, running style, running intensity, running penetration MF style or ability of Yaya. Gullit would not be suited to a Pep team.

Gullit is more like Ballack than Yaya, Drogba or Henry in terms of his MF, DF and attacking play.

Ballack + Zlatan == Gullit :ufdup:


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What version of Gullit you talking about the 30+ one ?:mjlol:

I'm talking prime 80's Gullit, PSV, Milan and Holland one.:ufdup:


Gullit, played as SS, W, AM. So he was as versatile as Yaya was. And that's not even mentioning the position he played at Chelsea.

His creativity, tekkers and athleticism as an attacking player is Henry before Henry.

His hold up play, strength, leaping and heading ability is just like Drogba, he was pretty much unstoppable in the air. He use to rag doll those Italian defenders like they were nothing.

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What version of Gullit you talking about the 30+ one ?:mjlol:

I'm talking prime 80's Gullit, PSV, Milan and Holland one.:ufdup:


Gullit, played as SS, W, AM. So he was as versatile as Yaya was. And that's not even mentioning the position he played at Chelsea.

His creativity, tekkers and athleticism as an attacking player is Henry before Henry.

His hold up play, strength, leaping and heading ability is just like Drogba, he was pretty much unstoppable in the air. He use to rag doll those Italian defenders like they were nothing.

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Yaya was a high ball retention player who could operate as the quintessential possession midfielder and Gullit was never that. Gullit was more like Ballack - the kind of player who like Gullit would get pushed further up the field than Yaya. The kind of player whose all-around game let them shift around the field but whose strength was not running midfield from deep.

Yaya played MF is a quintessential Pep team whereas neither Gullit nor Ballack would. Even Carrick would get in ahead of them in that role which is indicative of where their skills lay. Yaya moved with the ball more underneath his body (like Martial) which with his bulk made him hard to dispossess. Gullit with a more common gait moved with the ball further away from his body.

By way of a parallel, you know that part of the game that Xavi can do that Iniesta cannot. Well Yaya is a master at that "controlling tempo and ebb and flow of the game" too and that is why he and Gullit fundamentally differ and why Gullit is more like Ballack whose main skills were not not of the metronomic controlling variety.


It was a long time ago and memories :flabbynsick:so I'll allow it :salute:

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Yaya was a high ball retention player who could operate as the quintessential possession midfielder and Gullit was never that. Gullit was more like Ballack - the kind of player who like Gullit would get pushed further up the field than Yaya. The kind of player whose all-around game let them shift around the field but whose strength was not running midfield from deep.

Yaya played MF is a quintessential Pep team whereas neither Gullit nor Ballack would. Even Carrick would get in ahead of them in that role which is indicative of where their skills lay. Yaya moved with the ball more underneath his body (like Martial) which with his bulk made him hard to disposes. Gullit with a more common gait moved with the ball further away from his body.

By way of a parallel, you know that part of the game that Xavi can do that Iniesta cannot. Well Yaya is a master at that "controlling tempo and ebb and flow of the game" too and that is why he and Gullit fundamentally differ and why Gullit is more like Ballack whose main skills were not not of the metronomic controlling variety.


It was a long time ago and memories :flabbynsick:so I'll allow it :salute:

You have taken the Yaya thing literally. :snoop: I know they ain't the same player , Rijkaard is more Yaya style wise than Gullit is. Im talking about Gullit versatility. He could play and do everything in the attack, like Yaya could do in midfield and there would be no drop off in whatever position he played. Gullit is more like Henry/Drogba as a player stylistically but his adaptability thru out his career is like Yaya. Gullit was a team player that would do roles if the team needed him to do. When Milan was short in CM he would fill in there.. I'm not saying he was this and that type of midfielder. Gullit in 85/86 season played both Sweeper and Centre Forward. Scored 10+ goals each in both roles, 24 for the season.

Pep would be too scared of Gullits personality, anyway. Gullit could easily play as a winger in the 08/09 Barca team.
 

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You have taken the Yaya thing literally. :snoop: I know they ain't the same player , Rijkaard is more Yaya style wise than Gullit is. Im talking about Gullit versatility. He could play and do everything in the attack, like Yaya could do in midfield and there would be no drop off in whatever position he played. Gullit is more like Henry/Drogba as a player stylistically but his adaptability thru out his career is like Yaya. Gullit was a team player that would do roles if the team needed him to do. When Milan was short in CM he would fill in there.. I'm not saying he was this and that type of midfielder. Gullit in 85/86 season played both Sweeper and Centre Forward. Scored 10+ goals each in both roles, 24 for the season.

Pep would be too scared of Gullits personality, anyway. Gullit could easily play as a winger in the 08/09 Barca team.

Ballacks :lolbron: . Even in style Gullit is more like Ballack.

Also Rijkaard was nothing like Yaya. Rijkaard was a defensive MF, Yaya was not.

But let's leave it there.

Wear Ole football googles brehs :lolbron:

"Franklin "Frank" Edmundo Rijkaard (Dutch pronunciation: [ˈfrɑŋk ˈɛdmuːn.doː ˈrɛi̯kaːrt] ( listen); born 30 September 1962) is a Dutch former footballer and former manager who played as a midfielder or defender. Rijkaard played for Ajax, Real Zaragoza and Milan and represented the Netherlands national team side 73 times, scoring 10 goals. In his managerial career, he was at the helm of the Netherlands national team, Sparta Rotterdam, Barcelona, Galatasaray and the Saudi Arabia national team.

Regarded as one of the best defensive midfielders in footballing history and as one of the best players of his generation,[2][3] in 2010 Rijkaard was described by British broadsheet The Daily Telegraph as having been "a stylish player of faultless pedigree".[4]"

"Ballack is considered to be one of the most complete and versatile midfielders of his generation;[50] he played in several midfield positions during his career, and was noted for his powerful shot with both feet.[3] Due to his tall frame, he was also known for his ability in the air, which made him a goal threat on set pieces.[51]

On a technical level, he was a commanding, physically strong and aggressive player, with excellent passing range, who moved the ball efficiently.[3] The technicality and intelligence of his game was extremely high. He started his football career as a sweeper,[52] but when he moved to Leverkusen in 1999, then-coach Christoph Daum moved him to midfield. He adapted to a deeper role during his spell at Chelsea.

In 2011, Ballack's international coach at the time, Joachim Löw, praised him, describing him as a player who "exudes authority and calm on the pitch".[53]"

"A complete and versatile player, Gullit epitomised the ethos of Total Football as he was naturally adept in several positions, and was capable of aiding his team defensively as well as offensively due to his work-rate, ball-winning abilities, and tactical intelligence in addition to his skill and physical qualities.[25] Normally deployed as an attacking midfielder or as a second striker, he was capable of playing anywhere in midfield or along the front-line, on either wing or even in the centre, and could also play as a sweeper.[7] Regarded as one of the greatest players of all time,[26] his foremost attribute was his athleticism, as he used his strength and speed, combined with his technique, to great effect; he was also strong in the air, as he was tall, powerful, and an excellent jumper.[25][27] Yet, unusually for a man of his stature, Gullit was an elegant player, who also possessed outstanding natural balance, poise, technical ability, and dribbling skills, which gave a graceful style to his game.[25] Gullit also was noted for his intelligence, creativity, vision, and spatial abilities, qualities that helped him score goals early in his career and enabled him to play in a deeper role as a playmaker late in his days, where he was known for creating chances for teammates.[25] Gullit thus combined physical presence with flair, mental acuity, formidable technique and natural touch, to become an iconic figure in world football.[25][28] He was also an accurate free kick taker.[29] Beyond his qualities as a footballer, Gullit also stood for his leadership and tenacity.[30] Despite his talent, however, he struggled with injuries throughout his career, which later affected his fitness.[25][31]"
 

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No one here underappriciated Rambo :dahell:

We just thought he never reached his full potential after the leg break in Stoke. Also, he's won us TWO FA Cups AND consistently shyts on any team he plays against in Wembley....We loved Rambo, but he was never a world beating player. I would have loved to see him play under Arteta 3 seasons ago.
 

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No one here underappriciated Rambo :dahell:

We just thought he never reached his full potential after the leg break in Stoke. Also, he's won us TWO FA Cups AND consistently shyts on any team he plays against in Wembley....We loved Rambo, but he was never a world beating player. I would have loved to see him play under Arteta 3 seasons ago.

Nah he's right. Arsenal fans still suck off Wilshere but never really loved Ramsey.


 
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