Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - We are SO back, the Premier League returns!

[Montez]

after this paul scholes debacle, only pundits that have actually won something should be allow to critique. Its getting embarrassing for guys like neville, scholes, henry, shearer and even souness ( all great players ) but all rubbish as managers.they should only critique other players but not the managers or their tactics. managing is another ball game. whats more outrageous is guys like sherwood, and big sam talking shyt like they can do the same.

Thats why coaches like Zidane, guardiola, heynches, ancelloti and simoeone are so its not easy to do it at all.

They're all idiots, only a country like England would prop them up and empower them. Add Carragher to that mix as well. They're all their to whip up the AFTV type fans.

Scholes is particularly mean spirited and biased.

Absolutely not worried about Napoli at all.

Im more pissed that we were drawn for a 2nd leg at home, but UEFA reversed it.

Tbf UEFA did the same thing last round. Plus gave us Lacazette.

Emery is poor away from home, overly cautious and suspect decision making. Need a 3-0/4-1 at home.

 

[NSSVO]

fukking Barca

 

[BlackBall]

I WAS FUKKING JOKING!

No big deal just have to fire bomb their bus like the dippers did, they weren’t even punished for that shyt

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Now i know you talking shyt,




Italian Serie A 2016/17
# Team Pl W D L F A GD Pts
1 Juventus 38 29 4 5 77 27 50 91
2 Roma 38 28 3 7 90 38 52 87
3 Napoli 38 26 8 4 94 39 55 86
4 Atalanta 38 21 9 8 62 41 21 72
5 Lazio 38 21 7 10 74 51 23 70
6 AC Milan


Italian Serie A 2014/15
# Team Pl W D L F A GD Pts
1 Juventus 38 26 9 3 72 24 48 87
2 Roma 38 19 13 6 54 31 23 70
3 Lazio 38 21 6 11 71 38 33 69
4 Fiorentina 38 18 10 10 61 46 15 64
5 Napoli 38 18 9 11 70 54 16 63
6 Genoa


Italy Serie A 2013/14
# Team Pl W D L F A GD Pts
1 Juventus 38 33 3 2 80 23 57 102
2 Roma 38 26 7 5 72 25 47 85
3 Napoli 38 23 9 6 77 39 38 78
4 Fiorentina

Italy Serie A 2011/12
# Team Pl W D L F A GD Pts
1 Juventus 38 23 15 0 68 20 48 84
2 AC Milan 38 24 8 6 74 33 41 80
3 Udinese 38 18 10 10 52 35 17 64
4 Lazio 38 18 8 12 56 47 9 62
5 Napoli 38 16 13 9 66 46 20 61
6 Inter Milan 38 17 7 14 58 55 3 58
7 Roma 38 16 8 14 60 54 6 56
8 Parma 38 15 11 12 54 53 1 56
9 Bologna 38 13 12 13 41 43 -2 51
10 Chievo 38 12 13 13 35 45 -10 49
11 38 11 15 12 47 52 -5 48
12 Atalanta * 38 13 13 12 41 43 -2 46
13 Fiorentina 38 11 13 14 37 43 -6 46
14 38 11 11 16 45 45 0 44
15 Cagliari 38 10 13 15 37 46 -9 43
16 38 11 10 17 52 62 -10 43
17 Genoa 38 11 9 18 50 69 -19 42
18 38 8 12 18 40 56 -16 36
19 38 7 11 20 35 65 -30 32
20 38 4 10 24 24 60 -36 22
Last updated: May 13, 2012 9:52pm

Italy Serie A 2010/11
# Team Pl W D L F A GD Pts
1 AC Milan 38 24 10 4 65 24 41 82
2 Inter Milan 38 23 7 8 69 42 27 76
3 Napoli 38 21 7 10 59 39 20 70
4 Udinese 38 20 6 12 65 43 22 66
5 Lazio 38 20 6 12 55 39 16 66
6 Roma

Italy Serie A 2009/10
# Team Pl W D L F A GD Pts
1 Inter Milan 38 24 10 4 75 34 41 82
2 Roma 38 24 8 6 68 41 27 80
3 AC Milan 38 20 10 8 60 39 21 70
4 Sampdoria 38 19 10 9 49 41 8 67
5 38 18 11 9 59 47 12 65
6 Napoli

i can keep going bruh stop it. Napoli have not been the second best team in italy for the last 10 years

well and if they brought ancelloti to win the league that was a terrible decision in winning the league specially in italy aint all that hot
this nikkas only manage to win the league once WITH THAT MILAN TEAM

ONLY THING i agree is the chocking part but i did say that in my previous post
they dont have the mentality

you posted all that for nothing. When I said 2nd best team in Italy over this decade.

You bring up tables, but with years missing.

Napoli have had 6 top 3 finishes since 09/10. Half of those top 3 finishes have been 2nd. You can argue Roma have more 2nds with 4, but they have no silverware and failed to get to the group stages in Europe 3 times.

2 Coppa wins joint with Inter, whose last one was in 10/11 and have played in Europe the past 9 seasons, secondly only to Juve.


Now tell me, which one of us is fully of shyt.


So just so I understand.

2 Coppa wins
2nd x 3
3rd x 3
Europe Competition for 9 years straight

And the only team to better than that this decade is Juve.

This wouldn't make them the 2nd best team this decade, non?

 

[bigdaddy88]

you posted all that for nothing. When I said 2nd best team in Italy over the last decade.

You bring up tables, but with years missing.

Napoli have had 6 top 3 finishes since 09/10. Half of those top 3 finishes have been 2nd. You can argue Roma have more 2nds with 4, but they have no silverware and failed to get to the group stages in Europe 3 times.

2 Coppa wins joint with Inter, whose last one was in 10/11 and have played in Europe the past 9 seasons, secondly only to Juve.


Now tell me, which one of us is fully of shyt.


So just so I understand.

2 Coppa wins
2nd x 3
3rd x 3
Europe Competition for 9 years straight

And the only team to better than that this decade is Juve.

This wouldn't make them the 2nd best team this decade non?

i skip those other years because those they finished second, my point was to show they have not been the second best team in the league over the last 10 YEARS. that's whay u said. its been between them and roma for the most part. the league is the bread and butter for these teams. Like for example in the last ten years i would say chelsea and city have been the best they have actually won the league. roma and napoli have done well to compete with Juve but neither one have won the league in the last 10 years, both came close but no cigar.

But my initial statement was not to brush off napoli as if arsenal are on top of the league or something. that is all

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

i skip those other years because those they finished second, my point was to show they have not been the second best team in the league over the last 10 YEARS. that's whay u said. its been between them and roma for the most part. the league is the bread and butter for these teams. Like for example in the last ten years i would say chelsea and city have been the best they have actually won the league.

But my initial statement was not to brush off napoli as if arsenal top of the league or something. thats all

Serious breh do you have cataracts or conjunctivitis?

I clearly said in Italy and you bold and quoted it too and you still saying I said league.

 

[BlackBall]

 

[bigdaddy88]

Serious breh do you have cataracts or conjunctivitis?

I clearly said in Italy and you bold and quoted it too and you still saying I said league.

Ohh so when we say who is the best team in a country we dont mean the league anymore?

cup competitions anybody can win them , teams that finish in 4th or 6th can win a cup lol that dont make them a great. cup games have alot luck involve, teams usually field weaker team etc. relegated teams can win a cup my man

u can win all the copas, fa cups in the world . but if dont compete in the league then and both roma and napoli have done reasonably well taking into considerations their budgets. so they both have been the best teams in italy outside of juve. roma fell off cuzz their deference is atrocious.

 

[Switch]

Worried about Napoli, cause our away form is still suspect.

 

[nyknick]

They're all idiots, only a country like England would prop them up and empower them. Add Carragher to that mix as well. They're all their to whip up the AFTV type fans.

Scholes is particularly mean spirited and biased.

You could tell Scholes would do even worse than Henry, just a joyless c*nt. Again it's a perfect explanation for their continual failure at tournaments and player development.

Remember how Mourinho hated press conferences in Italy because they would actually ask him to explain his tactics, subs, adjustments. In England he could just pass with some 'mind games'.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Ohh so when we say who is the best team in a country we dont mean the league anymore?

cup competitions anybody can win them , teams that finish in 4th or 6th can win a cup lol that dont make them a great. cup games have alot luck involve, teams usually field weaker team etc. relegated teams can win a cup my man

u can win all the copas, fa cups in the world . but if dont compete in the league then and both roma and napoli have done reasonably well taking into considerations their budgets. so they both have been the best teams in italy outside of juve. roma fell off cuzz their deference is atrocious.

Anyone can win domestic cups you say? Recent history says otherwise. Apart from in Germany, out of the top 5 leagues the last 4 years disagree with you.

France - PSG have won the last 8 cups.
Italy - Juve have won 4
Spain - Barca have won 4
England - Chelsea, Arsenal x 2 and United won the FA. City x 2 (excluding this season) Chelsea and United won the League Cup.
Germany - Frankfurt, Dortmund, Bayern and VW won the last 4 German cups. But either Bayern and Dortmund have been in the final the last 7 years.

All those relegation teams winning

Wigan, which is just a one off. What other relegation teams have won domestic cups in the last decade.

 

[TobiOT]

Anyone can win domestic cups you say? Recent history says otherwise. Apart from in Germany, out of the top 5 leagues the last 4 years disagree with you.

France - PSG have won the last 8 cups.
Italy - Juve have won 4
Spain - Barca have won 4
England - Chelsea, Arsenal x 2 and United won the FA. City x 2 (excluding this season) Chelsea and United won the League Cup.
Germany - Frankfurt, Dortmund, Bayern and VW won the last 4 German cups. But either Bayern and Dortmund have been in the final the last 7 years.

All those relegation teams winning

Wigan, which is just a one off. What other relegation teams have won domestic cups in the last decade.

Birmingham against the Gooners...Obafemi Martins haunting Arsene Wenger once again






But that was also a one-off

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Birmingham against the Gooners...Obafemi Martins haunting Arsene Wenger once again






But that was also a one-off

2 out of 70 cup finals.

 

[bigdaddy88]

Anyone can win domestic cups you say? Recent history says otherwise. Apart from in Germany, out of the top 5 leagues the last 4 years disagree with you.

France - PSG have won the last 8 cups.
Italy - Juve have won 4
Spain - Barca have won 4
England - Chelsea, Arsenal x 2 and United won the FA. City x 2 (excluding this season) Chelsea and United won the League Cup.
Germany - Frankfurt, Dortmund, Bayern and VW won the last 4 German cups. But either Bayern and Dortmund have been in the final the last 7 years.

All those relegation teams winning

Wigan, which is just a one off. What other relegation teams have won domestic cups in the last decade.

yes u right recent history does show that big team is more likely to win. still in a cup, small teams do have a chance to win,and have also won. they also have much better chance to get to finals, than compare to a champions. it stil doesn't negate the fact that they have won and can win. Ur acting like its some type of anomaly for small teams to win it or even reach the finals

Arsenal have won a few cups recently, nobody would say they were the second best team in england, not even delusional arsenal fans would say that. United won under Van gaal again nobody in their gotdamn mind would say that team was one the best that year. shyt chelsea won the champions in 2012, and in that year they were not the best or 2nd best , neither was liverpool in 2005. nobody would say they were the best in their country, because the standings showed them not even been good enough to qualify from the league standings.

this whole thing started with me saying that napoli have been the 2nd best team in italy the last 3 years, and the TABLE would back me up. u said the last 10 years. i showed based on the league that was not true. you argued that them winning domestic cups during that time period made them the 2nd best i countered with that lesser teams have won in the past domestic cups, dont meant they are the 2nd or 3rd best, they just happened to beat other teams that sometimes were better than them in a one off. Again arsenal have won 2 domestic cups recently nobody on gods greens earth looking at their league form would say they were the second best team in the league. maybe 4th best same with Man U

If liverpool ( andy carrol) had beaten chelsea in that fa cup nobody would say they were the 3rd or fourth them nikkas were 8th and chelsea 6. these two were not better than city, united arsenal ,spurs and even newcastle THAT YEAR DUE TO THE STANDINGS ON THE TABLE. they were rubbish

 

[Jean toomer]

Birmingham against the Gooners...Obafemi Martins haunting Arsene Wenger once again






But that was also a one-off

My lord Koscielny was wretched in that first clip...and the mush at the end was just...