Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - We are SO back, the Premier League returns!

Black Nate Grey

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Disprove it.


Before I end your joke of an argument with the player stats lets address the fallacy that the Premier league is a better league then La Liga.
Need I remind you Every single one of the last 12 European and International club trophies have been won by a Spanish Team? (Europa League, Champions League, UEFA Super Cup and Club World Cup.)
Lets look at the data from 2010 on. As that is around the time Neymar and Hazard began to pop up. Their choice of club would also be influenced by this data as well. Even if we do it from 2000 on it'll look worse for the premiership lol.

Champions League:
-La Liga: Winners x4, Finalists x6
-Premiership: Winners x1, Finalists x1
Of the top 10 goal scorers in Champions league history; 8 have played in La Liga while 4 played in the Premier league.
Of the top 10 appearances in Champions league history: 7 have played in La Liga while 3 played in the Premier league.

Europa League:
-La Liga: Winners x5, Finalists x6
Premiership: Winners x0, Finalists x2

I'm not gonna do Balon d'or winners or FIFpro XI because those are popularity contests. Though it would once again destroy the premier league.

There literally isn't enough data out there that can present the BPL as better than La Liga. All you can do is argue with your "but-but competitiveness".
If you want to argue its more competitive, fine. But La Liga has the superior players, superior football, wins Continental trophies/competitions more often, and is flat out higher quality. La Liga has been dominant since 08-09.
Imo The Bundesliga is better than the Premier League as well but I don't have the numbers to back it, so it remains an opinion and not fact.

Don't take my word for it though:
Scholes
Bale
Ronaldo
Guardiola

Heres the data of head to head Spanish teams vs English teams from 1957-2013

Arsenal just got beat 10-2, three 5-1 games in a row by Bayern Munich.
Premier League is basura. Oh, I'm sorry competitive basura.
 
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No he's not the best. He needs to do what he did tonight consistently. Playing with Messi and Suarez he's going to always overshadowed, but he did his thing tonight. MSN all scored tonight. Can't say they didn't put in work.

You can tell though that Neymar was up to the challenge and was playing with all the confidence.

Besides the Penalty Messi did fukk all, Suarez popped in and out. Only Neymar put in work both legs.
But I agree he needs to be more consistent.
 

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Besides the Penalty Messi did fukk all, Suarez popped in and out. Only Neymar put in work both legs.
But I agree he needs to be more consistent.

Messi had a quiet game besides the PK and the free kick that just missed going in. Suarez had only the goal, but he was involved a lot in the box and did draw the 2nd PK. You can tell Neymar did take the game to PSG.
 

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Disprove it.
Since his arrival in the BPL:
Eden Hazard:
236 Games, 66 Goals

Since his divine incarnation to bless the football plebs in Europe with samba:
NeyGOD
174 Games, 97 Goals

"But Kaiser, BPL > La Liga" I already disproved that above but I'll give you the continental stats.

Hazard: 39 games 7 goals
Jesus Christ: 37 games 19 goals

International:
Hazard: 76 games 17 goals
Neymar: 75 games 50 goals

GTFO
I'm not even gonna bring up titles won both team and individual, or the fact he was joint top goalscorer of CL with Ronaldo and Messi.
 
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Messi played different role this game dropping deep into midfield hence why he wasnt as visible as he normally is in big games. Neymar was a pain in PSG ass in both games tho. Only player that actually was good in the away game from Barca side.
 

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Hazard's talent is elite. Top 3 dribbler in the game, easily, and harder to strip than Messi and Neymar. But he's too inconsistent to compare with those guys.


And :salute:to Pulisic.
 
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Hazard's talent is elite. Top 3 dribbler in the game, easily, and harder to strip than Messi and Neymar. But he's too inconsistent to compare with those guys.


And :salute:to Pulisic.
He's just not a finisher
His goal tally is minuscule compared to them and they assist more. Hazard does play in a different more def is very team but the gap in G/A shouldn't be that huge

I'd take Robben over him also
Rues is nasty too but both can't stay healthy for shyt
 

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PSG with the biggest bottle job in Champions League history. :dame:



They had already lost before kickoff. They came into it with the aim of not losing by 5. Deserved what they got. How the fukk do you blow what is effectively a 6-0 lead with the away goal? :skip:




PSG fans should wait outside the airport with rotten tomatoes ready to launch at the team bus. :francis:



They're lucky I ain't the owner. The level of punishment I would dish out would be unprecedented in it's severity :


Ban on social media for all first team players :hhh:


100% wage fines :hhh:


Economy class flights for the rest of the season :hhh:


1000 word apologies from all the players to the fans :hhh:


I would make them watch the game tape at least once a week for the remainder of the season :hhh:


9pm curfew for all players and coaches :hhh:



All meals to be eaten in complete silence :hhh:


No talking on the bus on matmatchdays :hhh:



Training now starts at 6:30am anybody more than 10 mins late gets docked 10% of their wages :hhh:



Players now have to pay for parking :hhh:


Players now have to pay for tickets they give family members :hhh:


No videogames in the players lounge :hhh:


In fact, no more player's lounge. It's being converted into a library that will be stocked with self-help books. Players must spend 6 hours a week reading books and listening to tapes on their off days:hhh:
 
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