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Same reason athletes of other sports feel the same way. Guys like DR J paved the way for michael, shaq, kobe, lebron etc.. but they never get any credit and are often overlooked in the big picture of things.
And got 10% of the $$$
 

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One thing that Dr J said that is slept on...
The league is more diluted now. Imagine how tough it was to stand out when every team is stacked. Take all the players who didn't make the playoffs and add them to the playoff teams.
The '70s was the weakest time in NBA history. That's a fact. The talent was split.


And let's just be honest: most players today are better than most of them in that era. We only remember the standouts. Darryl Dawkins wasn't some great player. Neither were most of Dr J's teammates.
 

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Why would he? The old heads (Big O, Wilt RIP, Russell etc.) usually keep it 100 about Mike. There is some salt thrown in at times but they often provide insight that is contrary to the popular narrative.

i don't blame them, if you watch espn you would think the nba began with jordan:heh:
 

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The talent pool gets deeper each year but a lot of people don't realize this because they're blinded by nostalgia. Sure there are some generational players that would be great in any era but what I'm saying is the average player now is a lot better than the average player in the 70's or 80's.

The same shyt people in this current era say about Russell, Wilt, West, etc. about how "They dominated against watered-down competition" 30-40 years from now, people from the next era will be saying that about Magic, Bird & Kareem.
 

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Skip is on some bullshyt this morning. They are speaking on the Ray Rice fight with his wife. Skip said although Ray Rice's wife hit Ray first in the elevator, Ray should have never put his hands on her :comeon:

Skip went on to say that under no circumstances is a man supposed to hit a woman, even if that man is being assaulted. Skip said the man should restrain himself or flee if he is being hit :rudy:

Stop absolving women of any responsibility from assaulting men
 

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So, Ray Rice should get a 8 games suspension. But a white quarterback that was accused of 3 sexual assault only gets a 4 games suspension. Which is way worse than what Ray Rice did.

Skip GTFOH.:camby:
 

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Skip is on some bullshyt this morning. They are speaking on the Ray Rice fight with his wife. Skip said although Ray Rice's wife hit Ray first in the elevator, Ray should have never put his hands on her :comeon:

Skip went on to say that under no circumstances is a man supposed to hit a woman, even if that man is being assaulted. Skip said the man should restrain himself or flee if he is being hit :rudy:

Stop absolving women of any responsibility from assaulting men
And that's bullshyt?

So if your mom hit a nikka on a fukking football team for calling her a bytch. You'd be perfectly fine with him knocking the living fukk out of her???

Unless a woman has some life threatening weapon on her, you don't have to punch her like a man. You can restrain her, grab up her arms, he'll smack her or push her hard as fukk. She's a fukking woman. Then go get your sister to beat her ass

But you will never be no type of tough guy or have any wins by hitting a frail ass woman so hard that she's knocked unconscious


Funny how nikkas can't stop themselves from hitting a woman. But let a nikka say "I'm 15" and suddenly you start thinking bout that "assaulting a minor" charge and slow your ass down
 

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So, Ray Rice should get a 8 games suspension. But a white quarterback that was accused of 3 sexual assault only gets a 4 games suspension. Which is way worse than what Ray Rice did.

Skip GTFOH.:camby:
Accused. Not convicted. Matter of fact not even charged

Damn let me find out y'all really are hard on hoes lol
 

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And that's bullshyt?

So if your mom hit a nikka on a fukking football team for calling her a bytch. You'd be perfectly fine with him knocking the living fukk out of her???

Unless a woman has some life threatening weapon on her, you don't have to punch her like a man. You can restrain her, grab up her arms, he'll smack her or push her hard as fukk. She's a fukking woman. Then go get your sister to beat her ass

But you will never be no type of tough guy or have any wins by hitting a frail ass woman so hard that she's knocked unconscious


Funny how nikkas can't stop themselves from hitting a woman. But let a nikka say "I'm 15" and suddenly you start thinking bout that "assaulting a minor" charge and slow your ass down

Ok first off, the women in my family don't go around hittin grown men. Secondly you sound just like many others, that absolve women from any accountability for hitting men.

You're over there making up bullshyt scenarios to somehow support your argument. I'm not saying that men should steal off on women, but it's not ok for a woman to hit men either. That's where nikkaz like you and skip fail to acknowledge
 
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