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SAS hasn't changed at all. He's always been this way. People just focus on 1 or 2 moments where they don't agree with him and call him a c00n when they don't even know what the word means. This year, he defended Mike Tomlin after the NFL punished him, saying it was too much, he's keeps talking about black QBs and their lack of chances in the furor of Tebow mania, he's defended Cam when someone wrote a racist story/cartoon, He's always on Kobe's side of thinking, defends Lebron/Wade, always says Doc Rivers is the best coach in the NBA.
Yeah but SAS is illogical when it comes to Kobe. He defends Kobe like the man is completely above any kind of criticism or scrutiny. Kobe's the best player of his generation, but if you even question anything, SAS acts like you just committed heresy. That's not a fair and unbiased thing that a writer is supposed to do. Apparently the only one who can even go there is Phi Jackson, because, you know...
I do remember SAS defending Cam Newton though.
 

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Yeah but SAS is illogical when it comes to Kobe. He defends Kobe like the man is completely above any kind of criticism or scrutiny. Kobe's the best player of his generation, but if you even question anything, SAS acts like you just committed heresy. That's not a fair and unbiased thing that a writer is supposed to do. Apparently the only one who can even go there is Phi Jackson, because, you know...
I do remember SAS defending Cam Newton though.
Yeah I know Kobe has SAS on speed dial which is why SAS always has the real scoop on Kobe but I'm only using him as one of the many examples where SAS defends black sports athletes ALL THE TIME. Forget about Kobe, all SAS does is defend Melo/Dwight/Durant/Westbrook etc etc. and sometimes he's wrong. Add on to that he called out the scout that was using those code words when describing Geno Smith. Why would a c00n be defending all these black dudes:stopitslime:
 

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Yeah I know Kobe has SAS on speed dial which is why SAS always has the real scoop on Kobe but I'm only using him as one of the many examples where SAS defends black sports athletes ALL THE TIME. Forget about Kobe, all SAS does is defend Melo/Dwight/Durant/Westbrook etc etc. and sometimes he's wrong but why would a c00n be defending all these black dudes:stopitslime:
Maybe you have a point.

I just think people should be criticized or defended based on logical arguments. Not based on whether a guy is "your boy".
That's all I wanted to really say.
 

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SAS hasn't changed at all. He's always been this way. People just focus on 1 or 2 moments where they don't agree with him and call him a c00n when they don't even know what the word means. This year, he defended Mike Tomlin after the NFL punished him, saying it was too much, he's keeps talking about black QBs and their lack of chances in the furor of Tebow mania, he's defended Cam when someone wrote a racist story/cartoon, He's always defend Kobe/Lebron/Wade, always says Doc Rivers is the best coach in the NBA...
He's also is an advocate for black coaches and the Rooney Rule.
 

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Maybe you have a point.

I just think people should be criticized or defended based on logical arguments. Not based on whether a guy is "your boy".
That's all I wanted to really say.
That works against him also, because the c00n stuff comes up when he says a black coach should be fired or he likes Luck over RG3 or that Jamarcus Russell is an embarrassement. People think because they are black and they should be "his boyz" that SAS can't criticize them objectively without being a c00n...
 

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That works against him also, because the c00n stuff comes up when he says a black coach should be fired or he likes Luck over RG3 or that Jamarcus Russell is an embarrassement. People think because they are black and they should be "his boyz" that SAS can't criticize them objectively without being a c00n...
Ehhhh. I think you're oversimplifying it a bit. I don't think any reasonable person expects that. Most reasonable people (I like to think that I fall into that category) expect fair and unbiased coverage on a player/event. Whether that person is black or not should be irrelevant. The issue arises when SAS seemingly (using the word seemingly because I don't know his actual politics) attacks black athletes/interests to curry favor with his white counterparts. It's happened before with him.
 

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Ehhhh. I think you're oversimplifying it a bit. I don't think any reasonable person expects that. Most reasonable people (I like to think that I fall into that category) expect fair and unbiased coverage on a player/event. Whether that person is black or not should be irrelevant. The issue arises when SAS seemingly (using the word seemingly because I don't know his actual politics) attacks black athletes/interests to curry favor with his white counterparts. It's happened before with him.
What example is there where he didn't criticize a white person the same way he criticize a black one?
 

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Like it or not, these guys will live in infamy and have become the voice of our sports generation... I'm starting to appreciate them now...

They have great chemistry and debates....
 

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man for all the good ESPN did by letting Stephen A. Smith bring the real this morning, ol house nikka Jason Whitlock undid that shyt in about a good 5 minutes on PTI. :pacspit:
 

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Stephen A bout to get suspended by ESPN, he letting his pro black views shine too much for these cacs. LOL
Sad but true. That's why his first show got pulled and when he came back he was tapdancing whenever racial topics came up.
 

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That Cari bytch is a huge bed wench. She's been trying to play down this Sherman hate by saying "it's not racial" or "Thug means everyone not black people", as if she's blind to what's going on.

I'm glad Stephen A is keeping it real though, contradicted that bytch and kept it 100.
 

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Nobody dances the line between house negro and field negro like these Black ESPN personalities...Steven A., Wilbon, Whitlock, Rob Parker..It's like they wake up every morning and make a conscious decision on who they want to be for that day...
I wanna watch the video, before I agree with this--I don't wanna feed those trolls.

But, Screamin' A. has done enough for me to agree with this post.

Though I agree that Rob Parker shouldn't (typo) shouldve been punished for callin' RG3 a cornball for being married to a white woman (no way dude should have got away with that)

ESPN is irresponsible in lettin' so much race-baitin' slide on that show--they created an environment where Rob thought he could "keep it real"

:guilty: I just read Wilbon's Sean Taylor column, today, too (first time)...Bad look, I see why ya'll aren't fans
He's also is an advocate for black coaches and the Rooney Rule.
He also says black people need to earn the right to not be degraded by white people (Gabby Douglas topic) and that black coaches need to earn there way (apparently, moreso than white coaches), because, that Rooney Rule exists (Marvin Lewis)

He also said that the Grambling football team should have just shut up and played, not, protested against the horrible conditions they had to do thru

Stephen A. be rockin' ya'll to sleep

The "pro-black" stuff he says, does not even out the juggling act he does with race issues

Plain, simple, he's the token black guy that, supposedly, is an expert on Black America...:dry: the same Black America that poisoned him and forced him to say "nikka" like 3 times on First Take

Stephen A. is pro-ESPN, nothing else
 
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