The Official Early(pre-1950s) Haitian History Thread

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Michel S. Laguerre: Haiti's Military Created by US As Tool of Repression


US Imposed Military Occupation of Haiti For 19 yrs creating predecessor of brutal Haitian military 2 stamp out revolt.

Important 2 note US military's first use & experiment w/combined air & ground forces was against rebels with Charlemagne Peralte.

 
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Where can I watch the 1804 movie for free? I'm finna just pay if I cant find a free link or something and is it worth watching? I know the history is good but did they do a good job?
I didnt watch it but i heard from other haitians it was good but most likely wont go deep as the information i post in this thread when comes to the US shaping the current politics of Haiti
 

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Just read through this whole thread. I always tell people I talk to whenever Haiti is brought up about early haitian history starting from 1804~present.

A LOT of folks don't know what the fukk is going on or happened. They just see Haiti's condition and think it's just simply because Haitians are incompetent and unable to govern themselves and NEED US intervention. I heard someone say once they should just let the US take Haiti, I wanted to roll my eyes to the back of my skull. Can't believe some of the comments I've heard coming out of the mouths of some Haitians. it's even worse when you got DR next door seemingly looking better overall and full of other people :mjpls:
Those people never cared anyway. Fuk them
 

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@Jesus is my protector , can we get a ban for people posting misinformation in this thread?
:mjlol:Yeah. Who? you hoe ass nikka. You went from not knowing Haiti was occupied by the US and the current proxy occupation of US to posting like another fake haitian intellectual.

Now you using my same link to act like you knew anything about haiti you goofy


Also i see you stealing information from lipstickally or that could be you posting misinformation on that site you weirdo
 

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:mjlol:Yeah. Who? you hoe ass nikka. You went from not knowing Haiti was occupied by the US and the current proxy occupation of US to posting like another fake haitian intellectual.

Now you using my same link to act like you knew anything about haiti you goofy


Also i see you stealing information from lipstickally or that could be you posting misinformation on that site you weirdo
:mjlol:
 

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I'm still researching it but for now I believe @loyola llothta source on Dessalines buying ADOS slaves and setting them free maybe authentic for now. For one we have a primary source on it. I don't fukk with "Reparations for Haiti" on twitter because to be honest that dude is a full blown weirdo but the person he/she quoted the source from is Orlando Aurélien who I follow on twitter. And she/he posts a lot of good and authentic material on Haitian history. Again for now we DO have a primary source this but.... I'm doing some more digging. Either way this doesn't warrant a ban. If you feel its incorrect then just correct it.
 

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I'm still researching it but for now I believe @loyola llothta source on Dessalines buying ADOS slaves and setting them free maybe authentic for now. For one we have a primary source on it. I don't fukk with "Reparations for Haiti" on twitter because to be honest that dude is a full blown weirdo but the person he/she quoted the source from is Orlando Aurélien who I follow on twitter. And she/he posts a lot of good and authentic material on Haitian history. Again for now we DO have a primary source this but.... I'm doing some more digging. Either way this doesn't warrant a ban. If you feel its incorrect then just correct it.
Reparations for Haiti just repost other people stuff. That was also in tariq 1804 film I believe

You know Reparations for Haiti ?
 

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I'm still researching it but for now I believe @loyola llothta source on Dessalines buying ADOS slaves and setting them free maybe authentic for now. For one we have a primary source on it. I don't fukk with "Reparations for Haiti" on twitter because to be honest that dude is a full blown weirdo but the person he/she quoted the source from is Orlando Aurélien who I follow on twitter. And she/he posts a lot of good and authentic material on Haitian history. Again for now we DO have a primary source this but.... I'm doing some more digging. Either way this doesn't warrant a ban. If you feel its incorrect then just correct it.
Why wasn't I tagged for a comment that it directed toward me?

I made a reference in my last post about reasons for putting people on ignore.

I logged out and read the past few posts to see what / who you two were responding to.
Logged out, you can see every post
The social media post you responded to is FALSE.

The first red flag is the $40 USD price. In the time the letter was written (1804) the price for enslaved adult in the US was way more than 40 dollars.

Dessalines was putting up that money to secure passage for Haitian Blacks and gens de couleur who were stranded in America, to return back.
The enslaved were taken there by whites fleeing the Revolution. Some of the mulattoes enslaved and free had fled or been taken there for the same reasons
The words of the decree spell it out if you read it again.

Haitian leaders made a lot of overtures to other groups of Blacks since independence, but this was not one of them.
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The original decree was posted here.Will look for the actual ads that appeared in the American cities where the St.Dom./Haitians ended up and formed communities when the decree /ad was written
AGAIN.......the amount of money mentioned in the ad is what Dessalines guarantees to pay for ship captain for the coast of transporting Haitians BACK.That was what the money was for, and why the ad was addressed to seamen/captains.

The amount of money to purchase an enslaved person from the United States at that time was more than that amount, and if that overture was being made, the decree would be addressed to American statesmen.


The facts will bear out that the ads were placed in newspapers in cities where there were enclaves of St. Dominguans/Haitians., and that the decree was for their repatriation.
 
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I didnt watch it but i heard from other haitians it was good but most likely wont go deep as the information i post in this thread when comes to the US shaping the current politics of Haiti
Word I'll keep a eye on this thread
 
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