The Official Debunking Hebrew Israelites Thread

[Czar]

This shyt again. Free Speech is becoming a version of H.L. @Czar Do you not have anything else to talk about kid? I can tell you are limited in your subjects. Bring some other topics homie....if you black, then there should be alot to talk about in here other than trying so hard to prove Blacks weren't Hebrews and the White man isn't Esau. With all the shyt going on in the world today fam.....really?

I deal with this topic cause it's personal with me. I got caught up in that cult and I know alotta young brothers who are getting caught up in it as well. If that bothers you,

c00n train is coming

And you're driving it nikka.

 

[MostReal]

Lol Japheth couldn't have been black if ALL the indio-European and Aryan nations descend from him. Greeks (Jovan), Romans (Kittim), Germans (Ashkenaz), Turks (Togarmah) etc.


All of current mankind descends from Ham, Shem and Japheth. You admitted some mixing (more like ALOT) occurred with them and non-black people which makes absolutely no sense since you just got finished saying they were all black


But I already know you're going to use the Nephilim theory again, mentioning Numbers 13:32–33 while trying to tie that together with Enoch 105:1-4.

At the end of the day, you're opinion is essentially irrelevant, since all mankind has fallen short and has been demonic. Not because of skin color, but because of sin. Point blank.

You can 'debunk' whatever you want it won't change what's true. I don't subscribe nor believe what cacs have stated about the bible because of how twisted they used it & mainly for what the bible says. You can say my opinion is 'irrelevant' but we all know that isn't true because if it was you wouldn't have tagged me to begin with.

The 'theory' that I've stated is scripture & science driven and if it was so irrelevant I wouldn't be seeing all of these white moses/jesus movies. Its very relevant which is why you are in here continuing on the same topic over and over again. You are nothing more than an agent that has been paid to do such. Your post history proves this. Just about everyone of your topics is on this subject. What did the BHI's do to you?

Sooner or later you will come around just like you did on the description of ruddy/red that I sonned you with. I don't really care what you believe because the word is true & it can't be shaken when told right. I don't even have to do all of this 'proving'...The bible stands on its on.


thanks for pointing out Numbers. Hopefully more black folks will realize the truth about that verse, Genesis and a number of others

 

[Kilgore Trout]

And you're driving it nikka.

Black people are getting killed everyday by white supremacy and you're spending your time on this. You're a scared c00n. Keep it up and ill have you banned from here.

 

[Dez]

 

[Czar]

You can 'debunk' whatever you want it won't change what's true. I don't subscribe nor believe what cacs have stated about the bible because of how twisted they used it & mainly for what the bible says. You can say my opinion is 'irrelevant' but we all know that isn't true because if it was you wouldn't have tagged me to begin with.

The 'theory' that I've stated is scripture & science driven and if it was so irrelevant I wouldn't be seeing all of these white moses/jesus movies. Its very relevant which is why you are in here continuing on the same topic over and over again. You are nothing more than an agent that has been paid to do such. Your post history proves this. Just about everyone of your topics is on this subject. What did the BHI's do to you?

Sooner or later you will come around just like you did on the description of ruddy/red that I sonned you with. I don't really care what you believe because the word is true & it can't be shaken when told right. I don't even have to do all of this 'proving'...The bible stands on its on.


thanks for pointing out Numbers. Hopefully more black folks will realize the truth about that verse, Genesis and a number of others

Lol Notice you didn't post those verses from Enoch after I told you I'd debunk em? I wonder why that is....

The only way your theory works is if we use a ton of conjecture and read into verses. Or in this case, use pseudographical writings which are not even verified by scripture itself.

But I guess you believe the angels were white people and Phanuel is in charge of repentance, since those are some of the things Enoch talks about

And who mentioned anything about C*cs? I even posted a video of some 'Hebrew Israelite' brothers with common sense who disagree with you too.

And what exactly did you "son". You had no idea what Admoni/Adom was until I taught you months ago. You didn't even know what THE HAMITIC HYPOTHESIS was until I broke it down for you, yet you claim to be a student of Africa? You were dapping people up all throughout the other HI thread who support it. c00nery at it's finest. Yet I'm supposedly an agent? nikka didn't even know who Dr Clarke was until a few months back. Never even read a book by Dr Ben, and probably doesn't even know who that is unless he googles it.

Talking about white portraits of Jesus. Anyone with even a little common sense knows those portraits are based on Roman templates, such as Cesare Borgia. Jesus wasn't white.

But someone like you would build straw man arguments to deflect the fact that you stay gettin this work from me.

 

[Czar]

Black people are getting killed everyday by white supremacy and you're spending your time on this. You're a scared c00n. Keep it up and ill have you banned from here.

So lemme get this straight... a cult which claims Africans aren't actually black people and are going to be destroyed is good in your book? Or are brothers and sisters only exclusive to this country for you?

Nah bruh, you can wear that c00n hat if you'd like, I'm not with the shuckin and jivin.

And you keep it up and see if you don't meet that fate first. Learn what's being discussed before jumping to conclusions.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

So lemme get this straight... a cult which claims Africans aren't actually black people and are going to be destroyed is good in your book? Or are brothers and sisters only exclusive to this country for you?

Nah bruh, you can wear that c00n hat if you'd like, I'm not with the shuckin and jivin.

And you keep it up and see if you don't meet that fate first. Learn what's being discussed before jumping to conclusions.

Nope you just feel safer going after other blacks. I understand, a lot of you suffer from this.


The white posters will give you a pat on the back for it.,

 

[Czar]

Nope you just feel safer going after other blacks. I understand, a lot of you suffer from this.


The white posters will give you a pat on the back for it.,

You are utterly clueless.

But since you brung up white supremacy and brothers going after other brothers, allow me to school you.

HAM (Heb. hām, perhaps hot)

The youngest son of Noah, born probably about ninety-six years before the Flood, and one of the eight persons to live through the Flood. He became the progenitor of the dark races—not the Negroes, but the Egyptians, Ethiopians, Libyans, and Canaanites

^This entry is from the Zondervan bible dictionary, which Hebrew Israelite claim is 'proof' that only they are negros/black people.

Ironically (and unbeknownst to them) they are actually AGREEING with a Eurocentric theory known as the Hamitic Hypothesis, which claims the ancient people of Kemet and other Hamitic groups were supposedly 'dark skinned Caucasians'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamitic#Hamitic_hypothesis

In the mid-19th century, the term Hamitic acquired a new meaning as a few European writers claimed to identify a distinct "Hamitic race" that was superior to "Negroid" populations of Sub-Saharan Africa. The theory arose from early anthropological writers, who linked the stories in the Bible of Ham's sons to actual ancient migrations of a supposed Middle-Eastern sub-group of the Caucasian race.

http://www.cui-zy.cn/Recommended/Nature&glabolization/HamticAfrica.pdf

^Read this whole PDF. It'll explain much more in depth.

Step your knowledge up and know what's being discussed first before talking crazy.

 

[thekingsmen]

I deal with this topic cause it's personal with me. I got caught up in that cult and I know alotta young brothers who are getting caught up in it as well. If that bothers you,





And you're driving it nikka.

So you were caught up in one cult got out and now you are in another. All that mess you speak about still leads back to Africa.

 

[LionofJudah]

So you were caught up in one cult got out and now you are in another. All that mess you speak about still leads back to Africa.

He was never an Israelite. He makes up that lie and pretends he's Black to give his lies validity. He posts videos from people of color who claim to be Hebrew Israelites when it serves his purpose, because he knows the source will look shady otherwise. He gets all his information from, or he actually is this guy here.

https://www.youtube.com/user/CrazyFavVideos/videos

Anything else, he learns from watching Hebrew Israelite videos. He's the definition of a serpent.

 

[Czar]

He was never an Israelite. He makes up that lie and pretends he's Black to give his lies validity. He posts videos from people of color who claim to be Hebrew Israelites when it serves his purpose, because he knows the source will look shady otherwise. He gets all his information from, or he actually is this guy here.

https://www.youtube.com/user/CrazyFavVideos/videos

Anything else, he learns from watching Hebrew Israelite videos. He's the definition of a serpent.

Lol this is how you know @LionofJudah is desperate at this point. He'll make up anything to try and discredit what I've been saying cause he has no answers for any of it.

But observe the following @thekingsmen

1. Anytime ANYONE disagrees with him he automatically calls them a devil, white, esau, agent etc. It's every online HI defense mechanism when they can't refute what you're saying.

2. I've never posted a video from that user, EVER. If LionofJudah had any common sense he shoulda said I get all my stuff from the TAKclassics, YHWHhasSpoken sosoreal2 and to a lesser extent (because they're agnostics) Rebel Alliance Media when they have interviews with former members, seeing as they too are former members. But why should I limit the information I post just because HE disagrees with it? If it's false, prove it to be false. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 says to prove all things.

3. I could easily post the same information myself, which I've done in the past. But some of these brothers present things in a way that hits much, much harder.

4. As he pointed out, I've posted videos from brothers who adhere to his belief concerning the ancient Hebrews, but do NOT adhere to the erroneous teachings of the old UPK. Those are the best ones to use, cause he can't call bias there. Especially when they stay within scripture and cut up the false doctrines he subscribes to.

5. Truthfully, I really don't need to post their videos either, cause we have dudes on here like @iLLaV3 who also disagree with @LionofJudah concerning his stance on who can or can't be saved.

6. By contrast, LionofJudah actually embodies everything he accuses me of. He's never been a member of any camp, so all the information he parrots comes straight from the various YT street preachers he watches. Which is hilarious, cause most of the camps he mimics actually hate one another & disagree on key doctrinal issues.

7. Whenever he posts a poorly put together argument (based on something he's parroting) and gets hit with a strong rebuttal dude gets flustered and runs. Particularly when you expose the true context of the verses he reads into, delve into history or breakdown passages using the languages of the bible. It's those sorta advantages that helps one see thru the mist of false teachings.

In short, he hates that I expose his ignorance at every turn. Case in point.

Not to hijack this thread, but I never got a chance to touch on this in the Hebrew-Israelite thread and found it to be humorous.

@LionofJudah doesn't believe Hamites (Ethiopians, Egyptians, Cushytes etc) were negros/black people. He believes they are going into slavery or going to be destroyed along with white people.

Yet...

Check this out this conversation between Arabs and Israelites from the movie The Message made in 1976. Take notice of the color of the Israelites.

The idiot posted up a clip from an old movie (The Message) about Muhammad, where the Muslims are having a conversation with Abyssinians(Ethiopans) IN ETHIOPIA, who coincidentally were christian during that time (just look at the crosses they're rocking). Talkin bout "The Israelites"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_Empire

Whole reason why I go at him so hard is cause he's the biggest promoter of extreme Hebrew Israelite teachings on the-coli. He's also the least receptive to criticism when it comes to his unsound belief system.

If he had true knowledge, he'd stand his ground and refute what I'm saying with concrete evidence to prove me unlearned. because by ignoring me, he's actually proving me right every time.

 

[Czar]

So you were caught up in one cult got out and now you are in another. All that mess you speak about still leads back to Africa.

What cult do I belong to? @thekingsmen

 

[LionofJudah]

@Czar Well, how about this? YOU make a video about whatever topic you want whether it's Esau being the white man, or the Israelites being Black, and i'll debate you on it. Here's the kicker, YOU have to expose your face on the video AND YOU have to reference The Coli and your screen name and I'll respond within 72 hours to what ever bullshyt you post and post MY FACE along with the video. And I don't want to hear that you can't do a video because you were trying to clown me for not using cellphones awhile back, so you should have a cell phone capable of video recording. If you choose not to do this, you're the white devil I've always called you out to be. Also, YOU get banned from the site, and if I don't respond with a video, I'll be banned.

@iLLaV3
@Disciple of the Projects
@Sambow

 

[Czar]

@Czar Well, how about this? YOU make a video about whatever topic you want whether it's Esau being the white man, or the Israelites being Black, and i'll debate you on it. Here's the kicker, YOU have to expose your face on the video AND you have to reference The Coli and your screen name and I'll respond within 72 hours to what ever bullshyt you post and post MY FACE along with the video. And I don't want to hear that you can't do a video because you were trying to clown me for not using cellphones awhile back, so you should have a cell phone capable of video recording. If you choose not to do this, you're the white devil I've always called you out to be. Also, YOU get banned from the site.

What's the purpose of making videos? To confirm to one another that we're both black?
Nah breh, you can respond to me in here in text. My reading comprehension skills are quite good. I don't post pictures on message board, and I definitely don't make personal videos for other males.

 

[LionofJudah]

@Czar Well, how about this? YOU make a video about whatever topic you want whether it's Esau being the white man, or the Israelites being Black, and i'll debate you on it. Here's the kicker, YOU have to expose your face on the video AND YOU have to reference The Coli and your screen name and I'll respond within 72 hours to what ever bullshyt you post and post MY FACE along with the video. And I don't want to hear that you can't do a video because you were trying to clown me for not using cellphones awhile back, so you should have a cell phone capable of video recording. If you choose not to do this, you're the white devil I've always called you out to be. Also, YOU get banned from the site, and if I don't respond with a video, I'll be banned.

@iLLaV3
@Disciple of the Projects
@Sambow
@thekingsmen

@Czar
@Czar
@Czar

Don't p*ssy out now. Here's your chance to destroy the Hebrew Israelite doctrine once and for all.