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Thanks. Dude whose page that is , is an irresponsible social media user taking advantage of our tendency to believe rumors ....to manipulate people.
fukk him.

The quote, if it exists.....is probably the president telling the citizens and business interests that he will restore law and order.
How is he manipulating people? The statement is so vague that it can be interrupted anyway. Either way the govt has been killing protesters.
 

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How is he manipulating people? The statement is so vague that it can be interrupted anyway. Either way the govt has been killing protesters.
Yes, because the "quote from the president" followed by "ONLY State Murder can STOP Jovenel's Ouster" is vague.

Headline I saw read
" 2 killed.....14 police injured"

If that headline is accurate...does that sound like "govt. has been killing protesters" to you?

I saw peaceful protests yesterday. Criminal element got involved..and things turned ugly right away..
not a coincidence.
 

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I think Jovenel will resign soon.
I think he wants to but too much pressure
 

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I understand brother however you cant tell me after Jean Claude fell Haiti was ready for democracy. We look at Haiti’s history and it’s always the same. There is a period of democracy but then the elites and foreign power interfere then there is chaos and bedlam. And the only times there was any semblance of peace and stability was under dictatorships. But too many people died during those time. My family has Duvalierist elements in it. However we also lost people being accused of being communist and never found again. Smh. At the end of the day an authoritarian government provides stability, gets shyt done, and is self sustaining like Cuba or China. Haitian are an authoritarian people. Very pro law and order. All they want is a job, get their kids to school and stability. Mark my words at some point the people won’t take it anymore and an authoritarian will seize power in haiti. Especially when America completely declines.
I disagree with some of this. My take on it is this:

I understand why many people like yourself are frustrated with the decline of things since Jean-Claude left. You all view it as under JeanClaude the country was peaceful, the economy was strong. There were less violence blah blah blah. And you are correct.

HOWEVER
  1. Totalitarian governments that are successful are few and far between because they depend on having a leader and his cabinet that are acting in the best interest of the people and who puts the people FIRST. Jean-Claude was not that guy. Even Francois who some say accomplished more than Jean-CLaude, was not that guy either. He and his wife stole a lot of money from the country during their reign.
  2. There is always an opposition. Totalitarian governments, in order to stay in power, tend to have to suppress the opposition and often do it using violent means. Said government often have their henchmen that they groom among the people to keep tabs on the opposition so they can "exterminate" them. These henchmen often abuse their power by abusing the general population. It may seem like it' snot that bad to you but it's tough to tell parents that their daughter was killed because some henchman's son made unwelcomed advances to her and she refused and got killed as a result.
  3. The people should be able to elect their own leaders unaffected by outside influences. Non of that "SoAnsSo for life" shyt. Every regime should have a term of specific length after which they must voluntarily step down.
My mother's family lost someone to Duvalier's henchmen. This was in the 60s and they rarely talk about it so i dont remember the details but apparently some makout's daughter shot one of my mom's cousins because they were dating the same man. Dude broke it up with the makout's daughter to be with my mom's cousin and they killed her for it. See that's the misconception people have about these regimes. They think the makouts only target the opposition or people that are involved in politics. Lots of other shenanigans happen like this and there was no justice for these families because these henchmen are protected. Unless you are associated with a higher ranking henchman. Meanwhile, I have an uncle who apparently is a Duvalier supporter. THe guy in the pic below shaking Jean-Claude's hand is my mom's half brother. I had never met him until last year and had only heard my mom mention him once when i was 36. My cousin introduced us at another uncle's funeral last year (october 2017)
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My dad's family in the meantime were victimized by makouts too. As a matter of fact my father left Aux-Cayes and moved to Port-Au-Prince in the late 50s early 60s to run away from a makout he had gotten into an altercation with when he was a teenager. His uncle helped made him change his name completely and he took on his mother's last name and a different first name instead and move to Port-Au-Prince so that they wouldnt find him. Part of it was also because he didnt get along with his dad. He himself always told me "dont ever get involved in politics. You can do business with politicians but never ever get involved, period. Dont even vote. As a matter of fact, if i ever vote in my life i hope the fukking finger falls off." (referring to the red dye they dipped your finger in when you vote in Haiti). To him that was his way of keeping his nose clean and out of the regime's wrath.

But what kinda country do you wanna run when it's citizens are afraid to get involved in it's politics? I agree Haitians arent quite ready for a full blown democracy like others but I'm not sure i trust a totalitarian government either because we've tried that before. And while it had it's benefits in some ways, way too many eggs had to be broken to make that omelette.
 
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For the Haitian american diaspora on the class action lawsuit


Members of the diaspora file a complaint against the Government of Haiti

03/01/2019




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On December 24, 2018, a class action was filed and registered at the Eastern District District Court in Manhattan, NY, by Marcel Denis, a lawyer of Haitian origin, of the Denis Law Group, PLLC. Representing Haitian plaintiffs Odilon S. Celestin, Widmir Romelien, Alexander Goldie Lamothe, Vincent Marazita, against the accused Michel Joseph Martelly, Jocelerme Privert, Jovenel Moïse, Western Union, Caribbean Air Mail inc., Unitransfert USA inc., Digicel-Haiti, Natcom SA and the Government of Haiti, for violation of US federal laws as well as those of the States of New York, Florida and California. The plaintiffs dispute the levies on phone minutes and money transfers, to finance in Haiti the National Fund for Education (FNE).


Recall that the FNE was created under the Presidency Martelly in May 2011 Haiti - Education : Launch of the National Fund for Education (FNE) by Martelly (UPDATE 1h03pm) - HaitiLibre.com : Haiti news 7/7currently financed by the diaspora by a phone fee of US $ 0.05 on each incoming minute and a charge of US $ 1.50, on incoming and outgoing funds transfers, which are collected by the Central Bank (BRH) has been ratified by both Chambers of Parliaments in August 2012 by the Chamber of Deputies Haiti - Education : The FNE becomes progressively legal - HaitiLibre.com : Haiti news 7/7 and in July 2017 by the Senate Haiti - Politics : After 5 years of blocking the Senate votes the law on the FNE - HaitiLibre.com : Haiti news 7/7

This 54-page class action contains 12 counts :
  • Violation of general business law, according to the laws of New York in force (deceptive acts and practices);
  • Violation of New York State Business Law (False Advertising);
  • Violation of Florida law on unfair and deceptive marketing practices;
  • Civil theft under Florida law;
  • Violation of California State legislation on the operation of businesses and professions;
  • Unfair competition under the California State Code of Professional and Business Law;
  • Violation of the California State Law on Consumer Litigation;
  • False statements intentionally made in violation of New York law;
  • False statements intentionally made under the laws of Florida;
  • Conspiracy to defraud Haitian consumers through remittances from the diaspora;
  • Unjustified enrichment;
  • Misrepresentation of the use to be made of additional fees collected from transfer houses and phone companies.

Download the complaint for all the details (PDF) : https://www.haitilibre.com/docs/case-1-18-cv-0734.pdf
 

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The international financial center of the island of Gonâve, who are the real beneficiaries?

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2 years ago 2539 By lenational the gonave, haiti

The creation of the "International Financial Center of the island of La Gonâve" by decree of January 7, 2016 continues to flow ink and saliva in several sectors of national life. If some see an economic opportunity for Haiti, the economist Roland Bélizaire does not go with the back of the spoon. According to him, the Center is not a development project, it will only facilitate transactions between multi-national banks.

LN: Professor, the decree makes La Gonave the "International Financial Center of Gonâve Island". Can you explain to readers what an international financial center is?


First of all, I would like to point out that there are very politicized interventions that do not take into account science that are being made on the Center. They make people dream and are not in line with the laws. Whether in the Constitution or in the laws on banking legislation in the country. On the other hand, there are the interested interventions that seem a little technical, but do not take into account the issues.


People need to understand that there is nowhere where finance equals development. The International Financial Center is not a development project. It is only a matter of international finance. It is a type of banking and financial zone. To get the population out of the illusion, it is important for them to know that this Center will not benefit them. Interventions suggesting that it will connect Haiti to the international financial market are utopian. In reality, this will only facilitate transactions between multi-national banks.


LN: What needs does an International Financial Center meet? Which countries in the region already have financial centers?


A center like this meets a need for capital development of multi-national banks. This does not respond to a need for development of the island of Gonâve or a need for development of the country. As mentioned by Prime Minister Paul Evans, there are foreign businessmen who have a need for a space, a tax haven that can guarantee an extension of their capital, the Haitian state has them all. simply offered. It is an irresponsible act of the Haitian state to allow multi-national banks to exploit the island as they see fit, without any control, without any collection of taxes.


The joke in all this is to listen to the argument of some who say that a Center like this one is established in several countries, why should Haiti stand out? Yet, they forget that the Haitian authorities have deviated from several interesting steps enjoyed by other countries. There are very good universities, very beautiful roads, very good hospitals. Had we followed these tracks? Have we decided to do the same? To say that a financial center exists in other countries is not enough.


This model that we want to implement in Haiti is similar to that of the Virgin Island, Panama and other countries of the world. Unlike those countries where there is a State that closely monitors economic activities, the Bank of the Republic of Haiti (BRH) will have no control over the banking transactions of this Center. The financial authorities of the Center will have to authorize the transactions.


LN: In the case of Haiti, what would be the advantages and / or disadvantages of such a Center?


I will not talk about advantages or disadvantages. Because if there are benefits it will only be for this class of bosses and if there are disadvantages it will only be for the population. I see it as part of a comprehensive plan for land use planning. The important thing is to know if we contacted the local authorities, if the Center comes within the framework of the local development plan of the island. I also see it as a global instrument of economic policy in relation to land law. The Haitian state has simply turned into a state broker since he will not see anything as a recipe. All the profit will be directed to the companies. But this will not prevent the Center's profits from being included in the GDP. We will say that Haiti has a high growth rate while the population is rotting in the dirt.


LN: Considering the current situation of the national economy, do you think this center is an opportunity for the country?


The impact of the Center on the national economy will be very small. Because a bank does not create jobs. There will be small jobs especially in construction. But, it will not be sustainable jobs. The real jobs that the Center will guarantee will be only skilled jobs, highly skilled labor. Will we find these frames on the island of Gonâve? Will we also find in the rest of the country? A question that I do not even have to answer.


I think there is simply a problem of economic policy. A supremacy of politics over science. Have studies been conducted to meet the needs of the population in water, education and health? Is it the population that has shown the need to have a financial center? The Haitian State and international donors have not taken these parameters into account.



Le centre financier international de l’île de la Gonâve, qui sont les vrais bénéficiaires?
 

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Haiti’s Unfinished Revolution Is Still In Effect
By Gina Athena Ulysse | February 19, 2019

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The unfolding events in Haiti are a despairing call for social and economic justice in the absence of rule of law. The folks in the streets who kept Haiti on lockdown since February 7th are clear about their demands. As Miami Herald’s Jacqueline Charles has reported, they want the 58th president, Jovenel Moïse, to vacate his post because they have no confidence in his leadership. Since he took office in 2017, Moise, an outsider to the political machine but with the support of the United States and the CORE Group, has failed to deliver on promises to alleviate the suffering of the nation and his administration is accused of perpetuating the kleptocratic practices of predecessor Michel Martelly, founder of PHTK (Bald Head Party). Both were brought to power by elections contested by Haitian institutions, including an election observer commission, but ultimately validated by the international community.

What is seemingly uniting the protesters is staunch determination to completely uproot the corruption infesting public administration. They seek to put an end to the impunity that continues to protect those who are culpable, and eradicate a state system beholden to the oligarchy and an international community that habitually interferes in Haitian affairs. In that sense, the call to oust this president is a yearning for systemic change with the hopes of addressing an on-going structural crisis that dates back to the Haitian Revolution. This ultimatum, which has been brewing for some time began to erupt volcanically in July 2018. Its most recent spark was the Petro Caribe corruption scandal, involving the disappearance of nearly $4 billion from Venezuela intended for public works and social service projects, which prompted the where did the money go? campaign.

In Woy Magazine, a Kreyòl online venue, filmmaker Etant Dupain adds more context to the unrest. He wrote, “July 5-7, a part of the Haitian population that is frustrated, tired and feel they are neglected took to the streets and caused a lot of damage. People died, people were hurt, property was lost in this spontaneous movement that gave a clear signal. If everyone got the message, it does not seem to have reached Jovenel Moise.” Last year, those who know Haiti intimately issued warnings. They insisted the country was especially ripe for a sociopolitical revolution as organizer, Ilio Durandis proclaimed unless government became proactive, more unrest would inevitably follow as the Institute for Justice and Democracy for Haiti Director Brian Concannon penned. To no surprise, protesters took to the streets again in November and this past historic week. February 7th 1986 marked the end of the Duvalier dictatorship.

As I have written elsewhere, anything you have read about Haiti thus far will remind you of an all too common and limited narrative; the first Black Republic is “the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere.” What almost none of them will mention is that Haiti also has one of the highest numbers of millionaires per capita in the region. Ninety percent of the country’s wealth is held by only 2% of its population. Rapper K-Lib Mapou lyrically meditates on this acute inequality in “PetwoPozisyon (Non).” With a sample of a crooning Edith Piaf, K-Lib remarks; “Ten million people with less than two dollars and just a few hundred holding 3 billion… Doctors and nurses without a salary while their wives and mistresses are giving birth overseas.”

The Haitian business elite, once dubbed “morally repugnant,” remains an indifferent class that pays no taxes, and lives in luxury. Many participate in a patronage system that supports local gangs, which are predisposed to use their poorest compatriots especially during times of unrest in their on-going wrestling match for power amongst themselves. Along with the state machinery, the elite has historically engaged in what is called a “politique de doublure” the exchange and reinforcement of economic and political power for their own benefit at the expense of the masses. Historically, both have had to contend with persistent foreign intervention (U.S. Occupation and MINUSTAH) and relations with international monetary institutions that undermine the republic’s sovereignty.

The disenfranchised majority population remains perpetually caught between this socio-economic extreme with its anti-blackness practices and this predatory state with disdain for restavèk or servant leadership. The state not only refuses a social contract with the nation—government provided-services remain non-existent throughout the country—but abdicated its responsibility to its people, relegating them to Christian and other NGOs. Moreover, in the Haitian diaspora, we know and feel this. Our remittances, which according to a World Bank is one-third of the economy functions as the only social welfare net. This reality is obscured by a façade of calmness that is assumed whenever Haiti is not in the news.

Yet, daily life continues to be expensive. For example, the Haitian Gourde, which had been stable for nearly a decade has been on a downward spiral the last year, plunged earlier this month. Lavi che, the high cost of living, is another Kreyòl expression that explains the desperation of a vulnerable population that must cope with crisis after crisis as a result of both natural and manmade disasters in a global economy that favors the wealthy.

Whether it is hurricanes, earthquakes, botched development projects, excessive waste of resources for carnivals, and abuses by UN peacekeepers #Cholera and or missionaries with impunity, oppressed Haitians routinely express their dissatisfaction. Those in power simply don’t want to hear.

Since Haiti has always been at the avant-garde of debates concerning Atlantic freedom, what we are witnessing in the palatable anger and violence on the streets is perhaps the tipping point of dynamics that go back to the inception of the Republic centuries ago. Simply put, Haiti is in the midst of an ongoing class war. Unlike previous democratic crises (from the fall of the 28 year Duvalier dictatorship or coups against Jean-Bertrand Aristide), the current regime’s opposition—which remains a complex and fragile amalgamation of (im)possible alliances with many grasping for power. It includes an internet-savvy younger population as well as former middle class people who are fed-up with inheriting discontent and hopelessness. Frankly, they know it is structurally impossible for them to make a generative life under these subhuman conditions.

The current manifestations taking place are in part enactments of an oppressed majority’s outright refusal to be casualties of a vampiric system in which they are nothing more than cheap labor if that since unemployment is staggering. It is a system that has rendered the country invivab, unlivable as it continues to dehumanize the majority population and deny youths a future. Pèp la bouke is the saying in Kreyòl. People are tired.

Still, without dismissing historical particularities, this uprising must be understood as part of a global phenomenon of popular responses to an ever-increasing wealth gap that makes a mockery of the gilded-age. Poor people all over the world are revolting against big capital whether it is South Africa, Mexico, Pakistan, Turkey, Venezuela, France or the United States. In that regard, Haiti is no exception.

What we are seeing is the absolute failure of what late Haitian anthropologist Michel-Rolph Trouillot called “The longest neocolonial experiment in the history of the West.” This tumultuous class struggle is a remnant of the unfinished business of the only successful slave revolution in the world. The first Black republic remains at the crossroads.

President Moïse’s response after eight days of silence did little to quell the protesters. Travel advisories are on highest alert as the international community is fleeing. Local journalists are standing firm, denouncing the government’s turn to even more repressive tactics, outright killing protesters who are seeking a hopeful and sustainable life to realize the elusive revolutionary ideals of liberté, fraternité, egalité.

It is difficult to tell what is next for my beloved homeland. It is clear that no concrete change will come unless the path ahead confronts the persistent unequal distribution that characterizes Haitian life. Nou rete nap gade. We wait and we watch.

Haiti’s Unfinished Revolution Is Still In Effect
 
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