Essential The Official Contemporary Haitian Geopolitics/Event thread

[loyola llothta]

 

[loyola llothta]

The real truth he resign to save the Corrupt U.S led Criminal Haitian Government circle (President Jovenel Moise and PHTK Tet Kale Party). The US help them do the same move with the corrupted US Puppets former President Michel Martelly(AKA Sweet Mickey ) and his Prime minister Laurent lamothe. The U.N and the Ambassors make sure the corruption and oppressing keep going as plan

 

[Bawon Samedi]

@loyola llothta

Do you follow Ezili Danto becaue that woman KNOWS her shyt. She makes it CLEAR why the USA has colonized Haiti.

 

[intruder]

@loyola llothta

Do you follow Ezili Danto becaue that woman KNOWS her shyt. She makes it CLEAR why the USA has colonized Haiti.

She's a bit scary at times tho. Every now and then i'll reply to some of her posts on FB. She's one of them borderline extreme militant haitians but not quite over the top like some of the clones i know that be on that extra guerilla shyt
I remember we once got into a back and forth about RAM (the music group) and some of the political songs they made in the past that got them in trouble with the Cedras and Avril regimes. Some of you may be too young to remember the effect of the song "fey" had during all the pro-Aristide protests in the early 90s. I know i was young myself. I later realized what it was about the song that was getting people riled up with that "yon sel pitit gason'm lan" line in the 2nd chorus when the pro-Aristide radio hosts were using it to get the people riled up. Now i understand why that song almost got Richard killed by them goons.

Speaking of of RAM this shyt been playing in my head the last few days.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

She's a bit scary at times tho. Every now and then i'll reply to some of her posts on FB. She's one of them borderline extreme militant haitians but not quite over the top like some of the clones i know that be on that extra guerilla shyt
I remember we once got into a back and forth about RAM (the music group) and some of the political songs they made in the past that got them in trouble with the Cedras and Avril regimes. Some of you may be too young to remember the effect of the song "fey" had during all the pro-Aristide protests in the early 90s. I know i was young myself. I later realized what it was about the song that was getting people riled up with that "yon sel pitit gason'm lan" line in the 2nd chorus when the pro-Aristide radio hosts were using it to get the people riled up.

Speaking of of RAM this shyt been playing in my head the last few days.

Her being an extreme militant is why I love her.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

This comedian telling a heartbreaking story of how colorism has taken over the country and how foreigners don't respect the people there.

 

[get these nets]

This comedian telling a heartbreaking story of how colorism has taken over the country and how foreigners don't respect the people there.

GREAT video.

I was confused at first because I thought he was of Haitian descent...

Stuff he said in the video is 100% real, and I'm just going on what I've seen HERE in the US, with Haitian people interacting among ourselves. You see remnants of it, because whatever power and class dynamics existed in Haiti don't apply in America.
Whites, mulatto children/families of the French slavers, and large middle eastern community are the ones who run commerce in Haiti.....the Black majority is on the bottom for the most part.

When he said he's traveled the world, it puzzles me that this seems to be the first place he's encountered this because it applies to all the former slave colonies....so I don't think he's traveled to English speaking Caribbean or Latin America.

I could see the pain in his face for being ashamed for not defending the Haitian driver from the people insulting him.

 

[get these nets]

update reaction to video

the comedian didn't lie about colorism, but I'm gonna call bs on the video

He & a Haitian comedian have a comedy team called Aba & Preach

here is one of their videos from january 2108..........presumably before this trip he took this year



Not sure if it's from growing up around Haitians, his comedy partner schooling him, or just through his own initiative, but the comedian knows some of the basics about Haitian history.
Either his comedy partner wasn't keeping it real with him about how things are........or he's acting when he says he wasn't prepared to witness the wealth and social disparity in Haiti

The motto on the flag itself, points to how and why the revolution worked..Unity(between the Africans and the mulattoes) makes strength.
How are you partners with another entertainer ?, discuss Haitian topics?, but not know about the history of the island and how that affects the society today?

 

[Fatboi1]

I'm in Haiti right now and man the infrastructure in PAP is really poor but I'm in Petitonville though at the moment and it's really nice. The contrast is stark.

 

[loyola llothta]

America's Awful Treatment of Haiti, According to WikiLeaks

The latest batch of cables released shows U.S. bullied ally

ADAM CLARK ESTES
JUN 7, 2011

This article is from the archive of our partner .

In the wake of this year's many disasters, the flow of bad news coming out Haiti has slowed to a trickle. Last week actually brought some good news that the 2010 quake's death toll might actually be much lower than reported. And then WikiLeaks swoops in with with 1,918 documents from a seven-year period starting 10 months before the coup that ousted President Jean-Bertrand Aristide on February 29, 2004 and ending six weeks after the January 12, 2010 earthquake.

In partnership with WikiLeaks, The Nation and the Haitian weekly newspaper Haïti Liberté are publishing a series of stories that so far highlight how America has been micromanaging and manhandling the Haitian government into aligning their policies with U.S. interests. It is, of course, not news that the United States bullies allies into doing what she wants, but the first couple of scoops are worth itemizing.

America Used Haiti as a Pawn in an Oil War Against Venezuela

René Préval took power after Aristide's ousting and immediately visited the United States to bolster confidence in the two nations' diplomatic relations. According to a March 26, 2006 cable written by U.S. Ambassador Janet Sanderson, Préval wanted "to bury once and for all the suspicion in Haiti that the United States is wary of him," wary because of Préval's ties to Cuba and Venezuela.

Sanderson also said that Préval "stressed to the Embassy that he will manage relations with Cuba and Venezuela solely for the benefit of the Haitian people, and not based on any ideological affinity toward those governments." But American behavior behind the scenes would show how "wary" may have been too gentle a word.

Préval quickly dashed his own hopes for a strong relationship with his northern allies by negotiating a deal with the Venezuelan-based oil alliance PetroCaribe. Recognizing how the deal made sense both for Haiti's strapped budget and poverty-stricken people--the Haitian government "would save USD 100 million per year from the delayed payments" by American embassy estimates--the United States stonewalled the deal for years to come.

American officials apparently helped to enlist Chevron and ExxonMobil, the only U.S. oil companies operating in Haiti, to block their shipments and refuse to transport PetroCaribe oil, a necessary requirement for Haiti to sign the deal.

Despite the American ambassador's recognizing Haiti's lack of interest in anti-American politics--"At no time has Preval given any indication that he is interested in associating Haiti with Chavez’s broader ‘revolutionary agenda,'" she wrote in one cable--Sanderson suggested that the U.S. "convey our discontent with Preval's actions at the highest possible level when he next visits Washington" after Préval visited Venezuela to negotiate a related energy deal that would bring electricity to more homes and save the Haitian people millions.


Chevron ultimately signed the PetroCaribe deal in early 2008, despite U.S. protests, but only after two years of negotiations potentially watered down the benefit to Haiti. However, as The Nation points out, "The extraordinary story that the Haiti WikiLeaks cables tell of the US Embassy’s campaign against PetroCaribe--which provides such obvious benefits for Haiti--lays bare the real priorities of 'Haiti's most important and reliable bi-lateral partner,' as Sanderson calls the United States."

America Wanted to Keep Haiti's Minimum Wage at 24¢ an Hour

Préval's campaign to raise the nation's minimum wage caught the attention of the Obama administration. The bump 37¢ bump seems small by American standards, but considering it would raise wages by 150 percent--from 24¢ and hour to 61¢ an hour--the new rule stood to dramatically affect the lives of poor Haitians.

However, it would also dramatically affect the bottom line of American companies, like Hanes and Levi Strauss who contracted labor in Haiti to sew their clothes. The companies insisted on capping the wage increase at 7¢ an hour, and the U.S. ambassador pressured Préval into a $3 per day wage for textile workers, $2 less than the original $5 a day that Préval had wanted.

The Nation's report* on the negotiations show continued disapproval with the politics of the whole thing:

Still the US Embassy wasn’t pleased. A deputy chief of mission, David E. Lindwall, said the $5 per day minimum “did not take economic reality into account” but was a populist measure aimed at appealing to “the unemployed and underpaid masses.”

Ryan Chittum at the Columbia Journalism Review did a little bit of math to put these figures into perspective. The proposed $5 per day falls well short of The Nation's estimated $12.50 per day needed for a Haitian family of three to make ends meet. But how dramatically will the even lower $3 a day affect the American companies with a stake in the matter?

Zooming in on specific companies helps clarify this even more. As of last year Hanes had 3,200 Haitians making t-shirts for it. Paying each of them two bucks a day more would cost it about $1.6 million a year. Hanesbrands Incorporated made $211 million on $4.3 billion in sales last year, and presumably it would pass on at least some of its higher labor costs to consumers.

Chittum notes that Hanes's CEO Richard Noll could cover the losses with just one sixth of his $10 million compensation package. That makes American Apparel and their no sweatshop policy look angelic, sex-crazed CEO Dov Charney and all.

*The Nation pulled their report on the minimum wage dispute after publishing it briefly in accordance with a publishing schedule agreement with Haïti Liberté. CJR snatched a summary while it was briefly online and The Nation will publish its full report tomorrow.

link:
America's Awful Treatment of Haiti, According to WikiLeaks

 

[mson]

America's Awful Treatment of Haiti, According to WikiLeaks

The latest batch of cables released shows U.S. bullied ally

ADAM CLARK ESTES
JUN 7, 2011

This article is from the archive of our partner .



link:
America's Awful Treatment of Haiti, According to WikiLeaks

Devil shyt passed off as "our best interests".

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

America's Awful Treatment of Haiti, According to WikiLeaks

The latest batch of cables released shows U.S. bullied ally

ADAM CLARK ESTES
JUN 7, 2011

This article is from the archive of our partner .



link:
America's Awful Treatment of Haiti, According to WikiLeaks

Will read. America is the Great Devil.

 

[loyola llothta]

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New York City Council approves co-naming street in honor of former Haitian leader

Discussion published by Marlene Daut on Friday, August 10, 2018


New York City Council approves co-naming street in honor of former Haitian leader

Updated Aug 9, 2018

Jean-Jacques Dessalines. Image via Cana News, 9 August 2018. ▲


NEW YORK, Aug. 9, CMC – New York City Council on Wednesday approved a proposal from Caribbean American Council Member Jumaane D. Williams for the co-naming of a street in Brooklyn in honor of Jean-Jacques Dessalines, the first leader of independent Haiti.

Williams – the son of Grenadian immigrants, who represents the 45th Council District in Brooklyn, said a section of Rogers Avenue in Brooklyn will be co-named Jean-Jacques Dessalines Boulevard.

He said Jean-Jacques Dessalines Boulevard will span along Rogers Avenue, from Farragut Road to Eastern Parkway, within the Little Haiti Business and Cultural District.

Last month, the New York City Council ceremonially designated a section of Flatbush, Brooklyn as “Little Haiti” “in recognition of the profound impact and continued presence of Haitian culture in the area,” said Williams, who is also a candidate for New York State Lieutenant Governor.

link:
New York City Council approves co-naming street in honor of former Haitian leader | H-Haiti | H-Net

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Current News outside of Haiti:


New York City Council approves co-naming street in honor of former Haitian leader

 

[mson]