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It did reach the point where it became blatant that editorial was fukking with Hickman's run with some of the nonsensical stuff that would occur, like Thanos in Infinity.

Also, I actually think Cap was supposed to be more involved, his descent to crazed obsession with stopping Stark was intended to be fleshed out better. Remember how after the infinity gem traveled him through space/time to meet old hawkeye, adult franklin richards, kang, etc, he was told he had to stop Stark at all costs, and then he remembered that it was the illuminati that brainwashed him?

That issue ended with him gathering all the Avengers and confronting Tony on some :ufdup:

Hickman was about to blow the roof off the house right there, but Marvel still needed the Avengers 'together' for geriatric Steve to happen and the Axis event. So next thing you know, that cliffhanger completely disappeared and those plot points of him traveling deep into the future was essentially dropped. which made steve's obsession with the illuminati later on a bit ridiculous with the multi-verse at stake.. when really, i believe hickman's point was to drive home that Steve thought that the Illuminati (and Stark in particular) would be the ones destined to destroy the universe, not the Cabal nor the incursions.


They fukked up Hickman's world building completely and undermined anything that garnered fan and critic attention that he tried to do.

Everything from his Fantastic Four up to the end of Secret Wars was supposed to be one big story.

I'm not gonna call no names that you guys may be tired of me whining about, but it's easy to go look at the cover of Secret Warriors number 1 look who's listed as the head writer (and who didn't write a fukking word) and see who it was all to the benefit of.

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I never understood that Logan and Storm shyt
I try not to call foul so quick but the shyt is mad suspect

Its like when he gets bored he can always just fukk Storm on some, "well shes here" type shyt.

But at the same time the X-Mansion is the Real World of comic books

Everyones fukkin everyone

Well, in every future scenario, they've always ended up together :manny: But honestly, I think Storm & Forge are the best pairing.
 

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Not for nothing I would not be surprised if this is actually pretty accurate to what is happening behind the scenes..... :francis:
Yea its disgusting. They pretty much use her as his back up smut when Jeanie isn't around.. to make sure they have an excuse for her not to go back to BP.

What's funny is that if Disney ever got the movie rights back (which they wouldn't), the execs would throw that Logan shyt to the bushes and pair Ororo x T'Challa back up with the quickness. X-office would have to lean back as far as that petty shyt in the comics. It's all political.

They fukked up Hickman's world building completely and undermined anything that garnered fan and critic attention that he tried to do.

Everything from his Fantastic Four up to the end of Secret Wars was supposed to be one big story.

I'm not gonna call no names that you guys may be tired of me whining about, but it's easy to go look at the cover of Secret Warriors number 1 look who's listed as the head writer (and who didn't write a fukking word) and see who it was all to the benefit of.

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Oh it was clear Bendis had some petty shyt going on with Hickman.

Putting Dr. Doom in issue 1 of Invincible Ironman was the final fukk you send off. It meant Secret Wars would have to be delay free for it to beat out that first ANAD issue 1 spoiler, which just isn't realistic... something Bendis would know first hand about... but he still put Victor in there.

You could tell with how Hickman and his editor later responded in that CBR interview after SW#9 came out that they didn't appreciate that at all but wanted to take the high road. They insisted that the end of SWs wasn't marginalized despite the Doom leak and was still a great ending.
 

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I wanna read some older ish. Where should I go? Shadowland? AvX? Secret Invasion? Remender's X-Force? What about The 12. Oh yeah, I said I would revisit BP/Storm's F4 tenure.
Xforce the 12 and shadowland. fukk.A vs X
 
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