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Jmare007
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Tom Breevort is taking over the X-Line as it's main editor and he's leaving the Avengers books after 25 years. He said the change will be made after the current Avengers and mutant runs end their "big plans" for this/next year.
Dude seems to be the kind of editor that lets the writer cook, for better or for worse, so it will be interesting to see which writers get to command the post Krakoa era.
Dude seems to be the kind of editor that lets the writer cook, for better or for worse, so it will be interesting to see which writers get to command the post Krakoa era.
Isn't he like anti Spider Man/Mary Jane getting back together??
Dillah810
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Fall of X started with a bang with the 1st two installments, but then fell off a cliff with the next 3. Hellfire Gala and X-Men 25 were fire and actually got me excited about X-Men again, but then Ice-Man, and Immortal X-Men were terrible. Children of the Vault was just okay. Hopefully it the rest of the event as good as the first two issues.
Exodus getting a big push is long overdue...
WhenWeWereKings
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I've been saying from the Krakoa era began that the x writers were sleeping on gold by not pushing Exodus, Selene and other villains.
The villains shoulda been getting a bigger push. Imo they held a better creative narrative seeing them adjust to the new status quo. It was one of the reasons why Hellions was such a great book.
I think the X line took a nosedive once Apocalypse was written out of the lineup. (Among other reasons)
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On the low I think they have given the villains way more character growth than the heroes
Magneto, Apocalypse, Sinister, Mystique, and Destiny, have been the driving force behind a lot of what we seen so far, and they tried to give Sabretooth a book. I think Madelyne Pryor has been given a team as well. Kingpin has become a mutant supporter, and now this with Exodus.
Shaw might have stayed evil, but it made sense since his evil wasn’t based on him being a mutant it was based on his greed.
I also don’t know if it counts but I am pretty sure that Emma Frost is going to run the show in the post Krakoa world. Even if it’s Krakoa but Mutants are more hostile to humans….
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Magneto is gone. I guess Apocalypse is coming back. Im sure Joseph is some kind of heel in disguise...Juggernaut is face again..Selene is capable of alot but not doing nothing. Shaw is still protected to a degree...and I have no idea where this Moira thing ends up.
Where are the rest of the Acolytes? Need more Uniscione and Scanner...lol
Jmare007
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I mean, Sinister has been the main character of the whole line for almost 2 years now, and before him, Apocalypse and Magneto were by far the biggest standouts. Destiny has also been a huge player throughout the whole era. You can't put the limelight on every single villain either. And they have been way more heavily featured than the heroes since the Krakoa era started.
The only "good guys" that have been heavily featured have been Storm (by far the biggest winner of this hole run) and Nightcrawler, and the latter took a huge L before Fall of X so it's already time for a redemption arc
WhenWeWereKings
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I mean, Sinister has been the main character of the whole line for almost 2 years now, and before him, Apocalypse and Magneto were by far the biggest standouts. Destiny has also been a huge player throughout the whole era. You can't put the limelight on every single villain either. And they have been way more heavily featured than the heroes since the Krakoa era started.
The only "good guys" that have been heavily featured have been Storm (by far the biggest winner of this hole run) and Nightcrawler, and the latter took a huge L before Fall of X so it's already time for a redemption arc
Destiny and Apocalypse has been one of the brighter spots of the Krakoan era. Which is my point. When they focused more on the villains the story telling was far more interesting imo.
While Destiny wasn't a full-on redemption arc, she wasn't a full-on villain either. We have gotten alot more depth from her in these few years than we've seen in most of her history.
Which to my point is, we could've gotten more stories about the villains trying to adjust/struggle to the new status. The New Mutants' arc with the Shadow King comes to mind.
Magneto's arc, while interesting, we've seen him try to adjust to Xavier's way before. But, yes, he was also a bright spot.
Sinister, imo was just being full on sinister. It was fun, but one of the weakest points of this era. Everyone with a brain KNEW Sinister would torpedo the whole status quo except for Charles and Eric and it made them look incredibly stupid. (But that's neither here nor there.)
Yes, I know it's a superhero comic and people come for the heroes. However, the same way the writers incorporated Apocalypse, Destiny, Mystique and so forth into different subplots where we got to see them struggle/adjust with their old ways of doing things versus that of the new status quo, I just feel we could've gotten just a little bit more of that, instead of just a lot of full-on superhero stories that we mostly saw.
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Again, this is why I loved Hellions so much. We got to see some villains struggle, with some failing to adjust to the new status quo. To me, it provided far more story telling possibilities, than the straight on superhero clashes we mostly got.
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Jmare007
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I guess but my point Is that you are asking for more of something that we got plenty of and was already an outlier. To me, the villains have been more than fine and were the bright spot of the era. Even Exodus has gotten more of a limelight and character development than most heroes. The biggest weakness of this Era to me has been having so many books with bleh stories for such an intriguing and "playable" concept. And that's were most heroes books failed.
Gillen, Ewing, Duggan and Ayala (and Wells, but dude focused on villains of course) were the only ones that were able to make shyt legit interesting. Spurrier went all in with his concepts and vision but struggled to make it consistently compelling. Tini Howard had the dopest idea of them all with Otherworld but she's just isn't a very good comic book writer. The rest basically fell flat on their face and completely wasted the opportunity Marvel gave them when they stopped Hickman from finishing his project and extended the Krakoa era.
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Everyone getting character assassinations
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They made Daken almost likable. Gorgon was the man early on too, right next to Scott.I mean, Sinister has been the main character of the whole line for almost 2 years now, and before him, Apocalypse and Magneto were by far the biggest standouts. Destiny has also been a huge player throughout the whole era. You can't put the limelight on every single villain either. And they have been way more heavily featured than the heroes since the Krakoa era started.
The only "good guys" that have been heavily featured have been Storm (by far the biggest winner of this hole run) and Nightcrawler, and the latter took a huge L before Fall of X so it's already time for a redemption arc
For the Heroes I would say Kitty, Synch, Kid Omega and Forge had some growth just based on them getting exposure and Beast to extent with them making him evil.