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[MenacingMonk]

Y'all never learn with these mini-series events.

I dropped a lot where I'm glad I didn't waste my time because everyone was shytting on them as it went on.

 

[teacher]

starling seems like a decent 'character female falcon i guess, we need a new iconic villain.

 

[nightwing2016]

The New Issue is Out

You jivin me

Nah, Breh go pick up that latest issue before they disappear and you have to go second market

 

[MenacingMonk]

Last Knight was all right, but I'm tired of all this "end of the world" shyt. I'm not gonna continue it.

 

[Woodrow]

A deep dive into Wally West fragile psyche would have been a welcome story but to use a very shallow view of the psychosis of grief as part of a shytty murder mystery plot gave us the failure that was HiC.

This all feels familiar to the pushback I saw to people who didn't like the handling of Daenerys on the final season of Game of Thrones.
My issue was never with Daenerys going crazy, it was always with how poorly her journey to madness was handled.
Similarly I am not bothered by where Wally ended up in HiC, my problem was with how terribly Tom King handled the journey of Walky going crazy.

i agree with you. 110%.

EVERY SINGLE ISSUE i have with the story pertains to execution. not the story itself, and not what happened to wally. king and DC made some mistakes on the execution end, and they have to own those. that's why i made sure to lay out my issues in my original post.

imo the two biggest issues were the cliffhanger formatting, and the marketing dept. selling this as a murder mystery. the "mystery" was probably the least important part of the story, and the story treats it as such.

if people have an issue with it on the ground of execution, i can't argue it. my problem is the people who act like satan just crawled out of a hole in the ground because they dont like the direction king chose for wally.

to them i say: get over it.

writers do this all the time, and if you don't like it now, eventually another writer will take the helm and move the character back towards a direction that's more to your liking.

on the flip side... not even a year ago, i remember watching a video of a kid. had to be somewhere around 4th-6th grade. the kid was sitting in class, he pulled out a handgun, started shooting kids in class, and as the kids he didn't shoot are running out of the room for their lives, he put the gun in his own mouth and pulled the trigger.

he was so nonchalant about all of it my blood went cold.

that's the world we live in now. so when i see a story like this, i think of kids who are hopefully still reading comic books, finding stories that hopefully help explain some of the craziness in the world around them. or maybe if we're really lucky, even helping them deal with some of the things they struggle with in their day-to-day lives. i'm not saying that's guaranteed to happen because of this story. but if HiC helps one kid make sense of some of the issues he or she is struggling with... well, i could give a fukk about a fanboy's crying and complaining. buy a collected edition of your favorite wally west story and stfu.

again. just my opinion. for whatever it's worth.

 

[blankstairz]

Last week when Tom King was announced to be leaving Batman, I thought that was sad. Even though I wasn't a fan, I thought he at least should have been able to finish his run (I know he's getting the Batman/Catwoman book, but that'll still be short of his planned 100-issue epic).

After Heroes in Crisis #9, I don't blame them. Tom King needs to go. If this is how he ends one controversial book, I don't even want to know bad he botches the end of his Batman run.

fukk everybody at DC Comics for this bullshyt. fukk Tom King for being a one-trick pony who can't write about anything but PTSD even when it makes no sense, fukk Dan DiDio and Bob Haras for approving and mandating this shyt, fukk Geoff Johns for leaving and allowing DiDio to go full retard, fukk Gary Frank for taking 20 years to finish Doomsday Clock which necessitated this bullshyt, and fukk Jim Lee too, just because.

This is the worst comic book of 2019. Unless the rest of the year is full of garbage, you cannot tell me otherwise.

I'd don't blame you for feeling that way, breh

on Frank though. His artwork in Doomsday is

And only thing good about HIC is Clay Mann's artwork too.

 

[richaveli83]

Well, it was rumored before HiC started that Wally was gonna join the Suicide Squad. It's looking about 90% right now

 

[AquaCityBoy]

I'm still struggling to figure out what Heroes in Crisis was even trying to say.

The previous issue had Wally saying, "therapy is bullshyt and talking about your problems is pointless," but in this issue Booster says something to the effect of, "it's ok to talk about your problems"? Plus Superman's speech in issue three once Sanctuary is exposed was, "Heroes have problems too." Was it supposed to point out the flaws in the anonymous system and camera recordings of Sanctuary? That flies in the face of the 'safe space' concept Sanctuary was supposedly set up to be. If that's the case, why even set Sanctuary like that at all? It was purely a Tom King creation. He could have had it be anything he wanted. That was my biggest problem with the book from the beginning: nothing about Sanctuary was earned. We got a little info here and there about it, mostly in Batman and Flash, but there was nothing about Sanctuary that made the reader feel like it even mattered before they went and started killing everybody in it. Did Sanctuary even help anybody at all? This makes Batman look like a complete idiot, since he was the one who spearheaded Sanctuary. You would think he would have done enough research to know it would have been ineffective.

Further proving my point that Tom King forces characters to fit his will, every single character in this book is written poorly. Wally's character is completely assassinated (and, no, PTSD is not an excuse). Harley Quinn is completely OP. Batgirl talks about shyt that never happened. Booster Gold's previous character development is completely contradicted to force him into this story. Lois is completely callous (both for not divulging the info about the leak and for begging Superman for some dikk while he's having an emotional breakdown about a mass murder). Superman is an idiot. The entire Trinity look like doofuses, and they're completely irrelevant for the second half of this book. Batman and Flash's friendship is ruined over this. Barry Allen looks like a complete a$$hole for not being an actual friend to Wally, which proves Batman's entire point at the end of The Price. Who ended up looking good at the end of this? Blue Beetle?

I just don't get what the point of any of this was, other than "fukk you, Geoff Johns, and fukk DC Rebirth," since it goes out of its way to shyt on everything that Rebirth was trying to set up.

 

[BXKingPin82]

Boobi is ALWAYS thinking about me!!

 

[MenacingMonk]

I’ve been adding the Road To/Death/Return of Wolverine saga to my collection. Collecting them because I’m a Wolverine fan and I fukks with his entourage (Daken, Laura, Sabretooth, etc) when they’re together.

 

[Legal]

I’ve been adding the Road To/Death/Return of Wolverine saga to my collection. Collecting them because I’m a Wolverine fan and I fukks with his entourage (Daken, Laura, Sabretooth, etc) when they’re together.

I was surprised by the ending of Death of Wolverine. I wasn't expecting to care, but those last couple of pages were pretty touching. I was legit okay with never seeing that Wolverine come back.

 

[MenacingMonk]

I was surprised by the ending of Death of Wolverine. I wasn't expecting to care, but those last couple of pages were pretty touching. I was legit okay with never seeing that Wolverine come back.

Was it ever explained how his healing factor returned? I don’t remember reading about it in the “Return” series.

 

[Legal]

Was it ever explained how his healing factor returned? I don’t remember reading about it in the “Return” series.

Not that I remember.

But as I understood it from Death of Wolverine, it wasn't necessarily gone, just exhausted from the virus he had. He basically needed to go take an extended break somewhere, but never had the chance to.

So, I guess Kitty getting him out of the shell when they buried him did it?

 

[Young Bishop]

shyts is going for like $80+ right now.

I'm not surprised, Spider-Man and Mary Jane 2 pack still going for 100

 

[FooFighters]

Well, thanks to this thread, I feel I'm caught up between the clutterfukk of both DC and Marvel. I haven't touched any comic book because of One More Day, Cry For Justice, Civil War, Teen Titans/Young Justice: Graduation Day. The only thing I've thought about reading is Invincible.

From what I've read, there's still decent amount of bs.

Is there anything worth picking up?