Essential The Official Coli Horror Film Thread: Discussion, Recommendations And Murder.

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I never understood why black folks were so scared of horror movies. It always boogled my mind.
Lol. Idk. I guess it’s a fear of the unknown or actually facing your fears manifested; most of my family and friends are not into them. My father and a couple of my brothers are- that’s how I became interested. I know my mom was concerned about my horror movie fixation coming up - I’ll sit there playing with my strawberry shortcake doll playset with a movie like Pumpkin Head, Freddy or Amityville Horror playing in the background. She didn’t get the concept. My father loved Jason- Friday the 13th. I have about 2 others friends who watch without pushback but that’s sporadic and it’s usually if it’s a popular movie.
 

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Yes that chick from Sweetheart was looking good as fukk! Too bad shes gay IRL.

Anyone have a link to Horror Noire documentary that was on Shudder? They're always playing ads on YouTube
I don’t think you’re going to find it without getting a shudder subscription -

I came across a podcast discussion about the documentary movie. But you still need to watch the actual movie, Horror Noire in order to understand the background of what they talk about.
 

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I bet every pitch will have a workaround to Freddy being "The b*stard Son of 100 Maniacs" so that they can avoid having his mom be the victim of a prolonged gang rape.

" While we don’t know exactly what the estate’s plans are – or if they have any distributor/financial deals in place – we have heard that they are looking for both feature film pitches and also concepts for a possible HBO Max series"
omg - that has to go through. they need to make this happen.

Girl you haven’t seen nightmare 3 and 4? They go into detail. Not vivid detail but they show his mom being accidentally locked in a spot with “1000 maniacs” for a weekend and imply she was raped by each and every single one of them

Ehhh you don’t have to say it anymore lol. Just like they workaround the fact Freddy is a pedophile

I vaguely remember Nightmare 3 and 4. Without googling - the last impressionable memory that I have of Nightmare was the one where Freddy morphed into a worm. Which one was that? and of course, Wes Craven's New Nightmare along with the 2000s era that was a remake/reboot from the original. But that part about his mother being brutally assaulted like that, maybe it just didn't register in my head. keep in mind, that I'm a little older than yall and I saw them as a younger girl, when the movies were on tv, years after the theater releases, so the hype died down and I wasn't around people that talked about it; how I probably processed what happened is different that what boys who are less shielded from the directness of it all. The only Nightmare that I officially rewatch over the years is Nightmare the first one.

Like Jello said, I interpreted it as the son a maniacs, as just what it is - bc my perspective is not wanting to visualize her being individually attacked like that. Idk. Does that make sense?? In my 10 yr old mind, I'm just adapting to horror movies but not fully understanding the nuances of it all. and I'm watching horror movies with my older brothers to keep up with them, but at the same time, they're not going to explain or go into details with me about that. They would send me out the room for a few mins and tell me to come back in if it got too much lol- so I was trying to connect the pieces. When I saw Jello write that, I was legit shocked- it clicked just then what the deal really was- like 15 yrs later. That shyt hits wayyyy different bc I understand what that means.
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and there it is again :damn::damn:!! I thought he just kidnapped kids in retaliation for how their parents treated him; I thought the parents were the evil ones for accusing him of doing things he didn't do, that he wasn't guilty of what they were saying, but he was really violating those kids??
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@Sccit here’s details about the Craven background - just do a search in this thread^^^
 

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@Sccit here’s details about the Craven background - just do a search in this thread^^^

WAIT U MAD AT ANOES CUZ FREDDY WAS A CHILD KILLER?

HE WASNT A PEDOPHILE HE JUST TORTURED KIDS ..... WHICH OF COURSE GOES IN LINE WIT HIM BEIN AN EVIL MANIAC, AND WAS KNOWN FROM THE VERY BEGINNING

DOESNT MAKE ANOES ANY LESS OF A CLASSIC OR CRAVEN ANY LESS OF A GOAT
 

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WAIT U MAD AT ANOES CUZ FREDDY WAS A CHILD KILLER?

HE WASNT A PEDOPHILE HE JUST TORTURED KIDS ..... WHICH OF COURSE GOES IN LINE WIT HIM BEIN AN EVIL MANIAC, AND WAS KNOWN FROM THE VERY BEGINNING

DOESNT MAKE ANOES ANY LESS OF A CLASSIC OR CRAVEN ANY LESS OF A GOAT
I wasn’t mad- it was more surprise bc I didn’t know those details.
 

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Ehhh you don’t have to say it anymore lol. Just like they workaround the fact Freddy is a pedophile

NAAH

HE WAS A CHILD KILLER WHO TORTURED KIDS

THERE WAS NO IMPLICATION OF PEDOPHILIA UNTIL THE NIGHTMARE REMAKE WHICH WAS AWFUL
 

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HE WAS A CHILD KILLER WHO TORTURED KIDS

THERE WAS NO IMPLICATION OF PEDOPHILIA UNTIL THE NIGHTMARE REMAKE WHICH WAS AWFUL
Craven said he was. There’s your implication lol. That was the original conceit. They just hinted at it since there were actual child pedophile cases going on at the time and new line didn’t want the heat.
 

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Craven said he was. There’s your implication lol. That was the original conceit. They just hinted at it since there were actual child pedophile cases going on at the time and new line didn’t want the heat.


WHERE HE SAY THAT?

THE ACTUAL MOVIES NEVER TOUCHED ON IT
 

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WHERE HE SAY THAT?

THE ACTUAL MOVIES NEVER TOUCHED ON IT
Check the documentary “never sleep again”

And here’s a quote from Robert Englund:

Robert Englund recalls: “Wes wrote the most evil, corrupt thing he could think of. Originally, that meant Freddy was a child molester. Right while we were shooting the fist Nightmare, there was a huge scandal based around an area of single parent yuppies in California known as South Bay. Child molesters had descended on this unsupervised flotsam of seventies leftover Me-generation American children. On the spot we changed the script from child molester to child murderer, mainly so Wes wouldn’t be accused of exploiting the South Bay case.”


Also according to some film CSI types, and I’d have to check this to be sure, there’s a blink and you’ll miss it newspaper headline in part 5 that says he’s a child molester. And I’m sure that flashback in freddys dead hints at some shyt.
 

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Some recent watches

“Tigers Are Not Afraid” AKA its much-less hokey Spanish title “Vuelven”
- Short and sweet Mexican indie cinema (I say that with a caveat, as its funding came from a Mexican government filmmaking grant, so I wonder how much whichever board that provided the funding combed or altered this movie's runtime) about a group of kids fleeing and simultaneously fighting back against low-level Cartel thugs. It was extremely bittersweet, as it had tons of endearing moments but also, naturally, a lot of very grim content about children faced against human trafficking and brutal deaths. It's hard to swallow a narrative that tries to balance such dark matters with fairy-tale escapism, but the director did stay committed to her vision so kudos in that regard I guess. I am not sure if it's just being a privileged and very soft American boy that holds me back from loving this, or if it's more to do with my skepticism at the effectiveness of the movie overall... Art is important but at what point are some of the world's worst horrors worthy of a dramatic narrative? I can't really put my finger on my exact feelings about it.

"Wounds"
- I haven't seen Under the Shadow but I've heard good things, and in this movie the director definitely has a few ideas about his opinions of the average young American's environment, especially those who are not white-collar careerists. The plot doesn't have a super firm direction which make the scares and tension looser than they should be, but I still enjoyed a lot of this. Roaches are probably the grossest things on earth to me, so the barf factor definitely got to me easily. Armie Hammer is a tool but he is a solid actor, a lotta people give him crap on lbxd but I suspect it's more to do with the fact that most of them were bullied by people who resemble him. That's fair :biggrin:

"Sweetheart"
- Great creature-feature, doesn't change the world with its message but more importantly it doesn't try to turn a simple thriller into a graduate thesis. Its main message (tying-in quite obviously with the title) about gaslighting and silencing women is woven into the story without being very glaring (not to say that it's perfectly subtextual, but it does capture exactly what Midsommar tries to say without having its head all the way up its ass like, ahem, Ari Asster). Definitely not a perfect movie but it's a relief that some filmmakers are biting off as much as their movie can chew and delivering a good thriller with it.
 
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