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I don't think this is strictly a race problem, it's an American media problem. That hulu Monsters show wasn't race trauma porn, but it was poverty trauma porn. I look at La Llorona which revisits a horrific genocide, but takes the perspective of people who choose ignorance as bliss and forces them to come to terms with realities of what was inflicted on those discriminated peoples. That movie managed to thread the needle well...it's also a slow burn, subtle scares, subtitled, foreign film that would never get a budget to be filmed in America. Our media doesn't reward that approach nearly enough. I don't think they trust a white audience to accept it and they don't trust any audiences to appreciate subtlety any more.

...also shout out to South American horror, color me biased but I love some of what we've gotten from Latin filmmakers.
Disagree with several of your points but I’ll leave it at that. I don’t feel like getting into it right now.
 

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#Alive (Netflix - Korean) v #Alone (AP - American) v American version. But the same script writer for both.
:jbhmm:

Alone is catered to more of an American audience. And of course, the American one had to show unnecessary nudity sighhhh. This is basically the same exact movie except for a few subtle differences - hour into Alone and so far I think the Korean version is better acting, action-oriented, I feel like Alone is going a little ohdee with the CW treatment character development fluff stuff. They left out the drone sequence - (it’s like the writer is implying that American audiences aren’t smart enough to come up with some of the technological survivalism gadgets and tools so scrap that and put in a baseball, rope, and a lacrosse stick along with paper and markers”
:mjlol::deadrose:

Both pretty good movies though. I still need to see how they handle the Alone ending v Alive.




Alone had the random intro appearance from the actor off Cousin Skeeter, House of Wax, who was in a lot of teen shoes Back in the day
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Great article

‘Black trauma porn’: Them and the danger of Jordan Peele imitators
Black trauma porn’: Them and the danger of Jordan Peele imitators
The true horror of the superficial Amazon show lies in bombarding the audience with scenes of gratuitous, racist violence without having anything interesting to say.

There is an inherent difficulty in producing thoughtful art that comments sensitively on racial violence, dishing up that viscous bigotry as entertainment. In a 2020 Art in America essay, the academic Zoé Samudzi wrote: “Where Blackness is en vogue and atrocity images are a hot commodity, it becomes difficult to produce a commentary or satire that does not read almost identically to the quotidian flows of violence.” The art is, in essence, a continuation of the violence it seeks to represent.
This part from the article hit the nail on the head for me:

But the Amazon Studios series Them has no time for such complexity, its creators less like artists struggling to strike a delicate balance between aesthetic, political, and welfare considerations, and more like sadomasochists. The horror anthology, which started with a 10-episode run earlier this month, simply indulges in cheaply exhibiting extremes of Black suffering. It is just the latest effort in what is being described as the “race horror” genre.

Them lacked nuance in almost every aspect of it's delivery.
 

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#Alive (Netflix - Korean) v #Alone (AP - American) v American version. But the same script writer for both.
:jbhmm:

Alone is catered to more of an American audience. And of course, the American one had to show unnecessary nudity sighhhh. This is basically the same exact movie except for a few subtle differences - hour into Alone and so far I think the Korean version is better acting, action-oriented, I feel like Alone is going a little ohdee with the CW treatment character development fluff stuff. They left out the drone sequence - (it’s like the writer is implying that American audiences aren’t smart enough to come up with some of the technological survivalism gadgets and tools so scrap that and put in a baseball, rope, and a lacrosse stick along with paper and markers”
:mjlol::deadrose:

Both pretty good movies though. I still need to see how they handle the Alone ending v Alive.




Alone had the random intro appearance from the actor off Cousin Skeeter, House of Wax, who was in a lot of teen shoes Back in the day
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I really enjoyed #Alive, I tend not to mess with American remakes
 

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#Alive (Netflix - Korean) v #Alone (AP - American) v American version. But the same script writer for both.
:jbhmm:

Alone is catered to more of an American audience. And of course, the American one had to show unnecessary nudity sighhhh. This is basically the same exact movie except for a few subtle differences - hour into Alone and so far I think the Korean version is better acting, action-oriented, I feel like Alone is going a little ohdee with the CW treatment character development fluff stuff. They left out the drone sequence - (it’s like the writer is implying that American audiences aren’t smart enough to come up with some of the technological survivalism gadgets and tools so scrap that and put in a baseball, rope, and a lacrosse stick along with paper and markers”
:mjlol::deadrose:

Both pretty good movies though. I still need to see how they handle the Alone ending v Alive.




Alone had the random intro appearance from the actor off Cousin Skeeter, House of Wax, who was in a lot of teen shoes Back in the day
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I liked Alone but it isn't as good as #Alive.

The two most glaring issues were: 1. that it obviously didn't have the budget that #Alive had so the actually zombie encounters were fewer and far less impressive.
2. The female lead was underwhelming as hell and had much less agency than her Korean counterpart.
 

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#Alive (Netflix - Korean) v #Alone (AP - American) v American version. But the same script writer for both.
:jbhmm:

Alone is catered to more of an American audience. And of course, the American one had to show unnecessary nudity sighhhh. This is basically the same exact movie except for a few subtle differences - hour into Alone and so far I think the Korean version is better acting, action-oriented, I feel like Alone is going a little ohdee with the CW treatment character development fluff stuff. They left out the drone sequence - (it’s like the writer is implying that American audiences aren’t smart enough to come up with some of the technological survivalism gadgets and tools so scrap that and put in a baseball, rope, and a lacrosse stick along with paper and markers”
:mjlol::deadrose:

Both pretty good movies though. I still need to see how they handle the Alone ending v Alive.




Alone had the random intro appearance from the actor off Cousin Skeeter, House of Wax, who was in a lot of teen shoes Back in the day
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Added to my previous comment since I finished watching. ^^The ending of ALONE killed this movie for me. Final verdict- Alive >>>> Alone. Not even close.
 

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I liked Alone but it isn't as good as #Alive.

The two most glaring issues were: 1. that it obviously didn't have the budget that #Alive had so the actually zombie encounters were fewer and far less impressive.
2. The female lead was underwhelming as hell and had much less agency than her Korean counterpart.
Agreed on all parts. It started out with what I thought was a contender but these actors brought absolutely nothing of substance to the movie. The role playing was horrible because you could tell they were playing a role. I was waiting for something to set it apart but it was extremely underwhelming compared to the counterpart. Part of the reason I liked Alive is because the female friend actually had relevance to the role and was useful, intelligent, savvy, not scared and held her own. Like I mentioned above - couldn’t figure out if this was dumbed down on purpose or if this was made for the CW teen scene.
 

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Agreed on all parts. It started out with what I thought was a contender but these actors brought absolutely nothing of substance to the movie. The role playing was horrible because you could tell they were playing a role. I was waiting for something to set it apart but it was extremely underwhelming compared to the counterpart. Part of the reason I liked Alive is because the female friend actually had relevance to the role and was useful, intelligent, savvy, not scared and held her own. Like I mentioned above - couldn’t figure out if this was dumbed down on purpose or if this was made for the CW teen scene.
The chick in Alone was basically Random White Girl in A Horror Movie right down to her falling down the first time she had to run from some zombies.
 

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I agree on the ending for Alone. It's like they ran out of money or something.
It was the same writer so I wonder if he was told by these Hollywood executives to alter his original bc this was so far off the mark compared to his Asian version. Idk - or maybe he wasn’t as inspired. Movie lost steam at the end, I wasn’t expecting the end credits - I was like, this movie can’t be over like this.
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The chick in Alone was basically Random White Girl in A Horror Movie right down to her falling down the first time she had to run from some zombies.
Right :laff::laff:just useless. This movie should have been marketed as a parody of ALIVE, with every stereotype trope used in the filming of those scenes.

this movie was not connecting for me at all -
:wtf:
as older as that lady looked, why was she not more effective than that in this movie - why was she so goofy acting?? Bytch you are at least 35; why are you acting like a helpless hapless teen? Macgyver up something- she had over 30 days to do so
:wtf:
 
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