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Great article

‘Black trauma porn’: Them and the danger of Jordan Peele imitators
Black trauma porn’: Them and the danger of Jordan Peele imitators
The true horror of the superficial Amazon show lies in bombarding the audience with scenes of gratuitous, racist violence without having anything interesting to say.

There is an inherent difficulty in producing thoughtful art that comments sensitively on racial violence, dishing up that viscous bigotry as entertainment. In a 2020 Art in America essay, the academic Zoé Samudzi wrote: “Where Blackness is en vogue and atrocity images are a hot commodity, it becomes difficult to produce a commentary or satire that does not read almost identically to the quotidian flows of violence.” The art is, in essence, a continuation of the violence it seeks to represent.

stuff is cheap and I said in the Them thread that everything about the marketing seemed like a Dollar Tree Peele product.

it’s wild you dont see any “revenge” horror from a black perspective if folks want to do time pieces to highlight racism via a horror lens.

i wonder if the new Candyman will use that angle, being that the original films had a racial element in His origin but not his motives.
 

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Great article

‘Black trauma porn’: Them and the danger of Jordan Peele imitators
Black trauma porn’: Them and the danger of Jordan Peele imitators
The true horror of the superficial Amazon show lies in bombarding the audience with scenes of gratuitous, racist violence without having anything interesting to say.

There is an inherent difficulty in producing thoughtful art that comments sensitively on racial violence, dishing up that viscous bigotry as entertainment. In a 2020 Art in America essay, the academic Zoé Samudzi wrote: “Where Blackness is en vogue and atrocity images are a hot commodity, it becomes difficult to produce a commentary or satire that does not read almost identically to the quotidian flows of violence.” The art is, in essence, a continuation of the violence it seeks to represent.
More critically, what has emerged from these reactions is a question of whether the film and television category of “racial horror” should exist in the first place. It’s a question that has deep complications for what we consider to be the constructions of the horror genre itself. Wes Craven, the creator of A Nightmare on Elm Street said in 2007 that horror movies are “the disturbed dreams of a society”, and that the horror genre depends on our fears being “manipulated and massaged”. This speaks to the purpose of horror as tapping into the most primal, Freudian fears: the unknown, the dark, grief, death. But how can the spectre of racism and racial violence be reduced to the arena of “fear” when it persists as a force for violence and social death against the Black audiences who are watching?

In his essay on Them, the author Brandon Taylor writes that the imagination cannot make space for racism as unrealised fear through the horror genre when these acts of violence are realised daily: “I don’t understand how you make a horror if you are never safe. How do you make something to terrify a people who have lived for generations in a state of constant besiegement? The worst thing short of death that could happen to Black people in America has already happened.” These words are particularly heavy in the month that 20-year old Daunte Wright was killedby a white female police officer during a traffic stop just 11 miles from where George Floyd was murdered last year in Minnesota. Taylor further argues that creative licence is stifled in this genre, as the “horror” can only ever be so many degrees from reality. As such, “paranormalising” racism falls flat.
 

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stuff is cheap and I said in the Them thread that everything about the marketing seemed like a Dollar Tree Peele product.

it’s wild you dont see any “revenge” horror from a black perspective if folks want to do time pieces to highlight racism via a horror lens.

i wonder if the new Candyman will use that angle, being that the original films had a racial element in His origin but not his motives.
This is true - you said it right here. Even slavery movies are done from
The white perspective for white audiences. Look at Free State of Jones, The Good Lord Bird etc etc
Not horror but the point still stands. Last time I recall was Nate Parker and we see how they did him, and tried to stall that movie. There hasn’t been an authentic movie about black American history since then. Tired of the inaccuracies and glorification for profit.

I heard the new Candyman was kind of brutal too, we shall see.
 

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Urge - Amazon prime video

A weekend getaway takes a dangerous turn when a mysterious nightclub owner introduces a group of friends to a dangerous new designer drug.
ems.ZW1zLXByZC1hc3NldHMvbW92aWVzLzkzMTg4ZGE3LThlZTYtNGYyNS1iMmE0LWY0YjhmM2IzMTA2NC53ZWJw
Has anyone on this thread ever took a vacation to an island where the only way to have access on or off the island is a boat?? No plane, no cabs, nothing.
I can’t see it- not having a secondary mode of transportation, depending on one boat to take you back and forth from what is literally your life. Idk .let me see where this movie goes- fyre island vibes,
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agreed lol
you know whats funny about movies like this?

is you'll watch the shyt (and especially if youre watching at night) and you'll wait for some ill twist or turn.
and it doesnt happen.

like youre genuinely engaged cause its slow.
so youre off top expecting some shyt to go down!

nah!

fukk this movie!

and fukk time as a whole just because!
 
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you know whats funny about movies like this?

is you'll watch the shyt (and especially if youre watching at night) and you'll wait for some ill twist or turn.
and it doesnt happen.

like youre genuinely engaged cause its slow.
so youre off top expecting some shyt to go down!

nah!

fukk this movie!

and fukk time as a whole just because!
Yea it seemed like it had potential but it seemed they just tried too hard to make it different. I literally said “what the fukk just happened?” out loud at the end lmao
 

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More critically, what has emerged from these reactions is a question of whether the film and television category of “racial horror” should exist in the first place. It’s a question that has deep complications for what we consider to be the constructions of the horror genre itself. Wes Craven, the creator of A Nightmare on Elm Street said in 2007 that horror movies are “the disturbed dreams of a society”, and that the horror genre depends on our fears being “manipulated and massaged”. This speaks to the purpose of horror as tapping into the most primal, Freudian fears: the unknown, the dark, grief, death. But how can the spectre of racism and racial violence be reduced to the arena of “fear” when it persists as a force for violence and social death against the Black audiences who are watching?

In his essay on Them, the author Brandon Taylor writes that the imagination cannot make space for racism as unrealised fear through the horror genre when these acts of violence are realised daily: “I don’t understand how you make a horror if you are never safe. How do you make something to terrify a people who have lived for generations in a state of constant besiegement? The worst thing short of death that could happen to Black people in America has already happened.” These words are particularly heavy in the month that 20-year old Daunte Wright was killedby a white female police officer during a traffic stop just 11 miles from where George Floyd was murdered last year in Minnesota. Taylor further argues that creative licence is stifled in this genre, as the “horror” can only ever be so many degrees from reality. As such, “paranormalising” racism falls flat.

I don't think this is strictly a race problem, it's an American media problem. That hulu Monsters show wasn't race trauma porn, but it was poverty trauma porn. I look at La Llorona which revisits a horrific genocide, but takes the perspective of people who choose ignorance as bliss and forces them to come to terms with realities of what was inflicted on those discriminated peoples. That movie managed to thread the needle well...it's also a slow burn, subtle scares, subtitled, foreign film that would never get a budget to be filmed in America. Our media doesn't reward that approach nearly enough. I don't think they trust a white audience to accept it and they don't trust any audiences to appreciate subtlety any more.

...also shout out to South American horror, color me biased but I love some of what we've gotten from Latin filmmakers.
 

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I don't think this is strictly a race problem, it's an American media problem. That hulu Monsters show wasn't race trauma porn, but it was poverty trauma porn. I look at La Llorona which revisits a horrific genocide, but takes the perspective of people who choose ignorance as bliss and forces them to come to terms with realities of what was inflicted on those discriminated peoples. That movie managed to thread the needle well...it's also a slow burn, subtle scares, subtitled, foreign film that would never get a budget to be filmed in America. Our media doesn't reward that approach nearly enough. I don't think they trust a white audience to accept it and they don't trust any audiences to appreciate subtlety any more.

...also shout out to South American horror, color me biased but I love some of what we've gotten from Latin filmmakers.
America is purely a pain=profit business. It’s journalism 101: if it bleeds it leads.

That and Hollywood’s general copycat attitude with everything, which isn’t helpful either.
 
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