Essential The Official Coli Gun Owners Thread
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Waste of time and money. You can dry fire at home with your real firearms if you order a laser round in the caliber of your gun.
There's something about the pop, the recoil, the loud noise, the smell of shooting it actually releases a lot of stress.
east
Screwed up... till tha casket drops!!
laws vary greatly from state to state but generally there's no such thing as a permit to own and yes, you can walk down the street and buy a gun. if you're buying from a store then you need to pass a federal background check (takes like 5 mins), if you're buying from a person then you just give them money. to carry guns, around 45 states either require a license which they have to give when requested, or don't require a license at all. the remaining few claim to issue licenses but either 1/ don't grant at all 2/ grant depending on where in the state you live 3/ grant only to retired cops/judges/politicians or 4/ grant to whites only.
i thought guns weren't that hard to (legally) get in the uk btw, iirc u can get stuff like enfield-sniders or mannlichers without any sort of license, or long-barreled 12-gauges with little effort. the pistols with the long ass wire stocks are cute too, those are unheard of in america but idk how much effort they take to get haha. then again most british gun owners i talk to don't give a fukk and still have their dad's/grandpa's shyt from before prohibition hidden away.
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laws vary greatly from state to state but generally there's no such thing as a permit to own and yes, you can walk down the street and buy a gun. if you're buying from a store then you need to pass a federal background check (takes like 5 mins), if you're buying from a person then you just give them money. to carry guns, around 45 states either require a license which they have to give when requested, or don't require a license at all. the remaining few claim to issue licenses but either 1/ don't grant at all 2/ grant depending on where in the state you live 3/ grant only to retired cops/judges/politicians or 4/ grant to whites only.
i thought guns weren't that hard to (legally) get in the uk btw, iirc u can get stuff like enfield-sniders or mannlichers without any sort of license, or long-barreled 12-gauges with little effort. the pistols with the long ass wire stocks are cute too, those are unheard of in america but idk how much effort they take to get haha. then again most british gun owners i talk to don't give a fukk and still have their dad's/grandpa's shyt from before prohibition hidden away.
Thanks man - I've gathered from doing a little research and the replies to my initial post that it pretty much differs from state to state.
As far as guns in the UK - from my understanding you can only obtain a shotgun or rifle license but you have to prove to the police that you have good reason to own one - basically you have to be white, upper class and live in a rural location. But even that will probably change now because some crazy Trump worshipping cac went on a shooting spree not too long ago. You used to be able to get a license for handguns decades ago but there was a mass shooting at a school in Scotland (Dunblane - the UK's version of Sandy Hook) so after that they were scrapped altogether.
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Think if I ever moved to America this would be my first purchase...
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thank god i reload
I took a Shivworks ECQC class this weekend with Craig Douglas.
Craig retired from law enforcement after 21 years of service with the bulk of his career spent in narcotics and SWAT.
Since 2003, Craig has been teaching globally under the ShivWorks brand and has conducted coursework on entangled shooting skills in nearly 40 states and nine foreign countries. He has taught for federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies, and to three branches of the U.S. military.
The ECQC (Extreme Close Quarters Concepts) course is 2.5 days of instruction to deal with altercations that occur at 0 - 5 feet.
As mentioned on the site this course is designed to instill core concepts of seamless integration and provide the platform for aggressive problem solving during a life or death struggle at arm’s length or closer.
Friday was a half day focusing more around criminal assessment and identifying threats. Identifying how to mitigate threats through your language by giving commands, framing your body to establish space between you and an unknown person, conflict resolution, and identifying tell tell signs of malevolent intent.
Much of the day Saturday was spent between 30/40/30 Shooting/Grappling/Force on Force.
Shooting encompassed shooting from a single armed draw with low retention, shooting from compressed ready, and shooting backwards away from a target while gauging distance.
The base of grappling is mostly Greco-Roman wrestling to control the altercation via the clinch to employ your weapon in a defensive scenario. Basic arm pulls, wrist control, taking the back, or getting in a position where the clinch is advantageous for you to get your weapon.
The day ended with a force on force scenario in which you're fighting on the ground with an opponent. If you are on the ground then things REALLY got bad and you have to mitigate the problem. You got INSTANT feedback since you're using Blue guns with simulation (paintball) rounds.
Finally - Sunday started with shooting and learning how to frame your non-dominant arm to protect yourself in close quarters scenario (think less than 3 feet or at arms length of an assailant) then moving back.
We did a brief drill on shooting from a confined space. Think if you're in a crowd, in a car, or sitting somewhere next to loved ones or people around you. How would you take a shot without flagging or endangering your loved ones?
Later in the day we did numerous force on force drills. Craig gave unique situations for everyone. This was more of a series problem solving exercises within each scenario on how to mitigate the issue. Not all of these required the use of a gun. Some required mediation, some required some sort of situational awareness. He also sometimes added a third person to add to the problem solving.
The scenarios ranged from dealing with people of different sizes, mental states, intent. There were some unique situations which involved domestic abuse, someone disabled, or differences in race of individuals. Again - not all required the use of a firearm, but others did and in that case you used the grappling and shooting knowledge you learned in the course.
Later in the day we did some weapons retention work - how to avoid someone from taking your gun out of your holster and how to break their hand free of it.
Finally, another force on force drill. In this case two opponents - each with a gun. You had to combine all of your grappling skills and weapons retention knowledge you accumulated.
I REALLY liked this class. Mainly because of how interdisciplinary this coursework was. Craig assumes you already know fundamental marksmanship so he doesn't waste time trying to teach people this. You should be decent at shooting your handgun to take this course.
You also have to have a certain level of fitness as well as some experience in martial arts is something that is good to be successful in the course.
If you want to test yourself self defense skills I HIGHLY recommend a force on force class. 100% recommend Craig Douglas' ECQC course. He is a very detailed oriented instruction and you get a plethora of stuff to take home. You also learn from other participants and their scenarios.
Next class I want to take with him is his vehicle course which is more along the lines of carjackings, road rage, etc.
Craig retired from law enforcement after 21 years of service with the bulk of his career spent in narcotics and SWAT.
Since 2003, Craig has been teaching globally under the ShivWorks brand and has conducted coursework on entangled shooting skills in nearly 40 states and nine foreign countries. He has taught for federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies, and to three branches of the U.S. military.
The ECQC (Extreme Close Quarters Concepts) course is 2.5 days of instruction to deal with altercations that occur at 0 - 5 feet.
As mentioned on the site this course is designed to instill core concepts of seamless integration and provide the platform for aggressive problem solving during a life or death struggle at arm’s length or closer.
Friday was a half day focusing more around criminal assessment and identifying threats. Identifying how to mitigate threats through your language by giving commands, framing your body to establish space between you and an unknown person, conflict resolution, and identifying tell tell signs of malevolent intent.
Much of the day Saturday was spent between 30/40/30 Shooting/Grappling/Force on Force.
Shooting encompassed shooting from a single armed draw with low retention, shooting from compressed ready, and shooting backwards away from a target while gauging distance.
The base of grappling is mostly Greco-Roman wrestling to control the altercation via the clinch to employ your weapon in a defensive scenario. Basic arm pulls, wrist control, taking the back, or getting in a position where the clinch is advantageous for you to get your weapon.
The day ended with a force on force scenario in which you're fighting on the ground with an opponent. If you are on the ground then things REALLY got bad and you have to mitigate the problem. You got INSTANT feedback since you're using Blue guns with simulation (paintball) rounds.
Finally - Sunday started with shooting and learning how to frame your non-dominant arm to protect yourself in close quarters scenario (think less than 3 feet or at arms length of an assailant) then moving back.
We did a brief drill on shooting from a confined space. Think if you're in a crowd, in a car, or sitting somewhere next to loved ones or people around you. How would you take a shot without flagging or endangering your loved ones?
Later in the day we did numerous force on force drills. Craig gave unique situations for everyone. This was more of a series problem solving exercises within each scenario on how to mitigate the issue. Not all of these required the use of a gun. Some required mediation, some required some sort of situational awareness. He also sometimes added a third person to add to the problem solving.
The scenarios ranged from dealing with people of different sizes, mental states, intent. There were some unique situations which involved domestic abuse, someone disabled, or differences in race of individuals. Again - not all required the use of a firearm, but others did and in that case you used the grappling and shooting knowledge you learned in the course.
Later in the day we did some weapons retention work - how to avoid someone from taking your gun out of your holster and how to break their hand free of it.
Finally, another force on force drill. In this case two opponents - each with a gun. You had to combine all of your grappling skills and weapons retention knowledge you accumulated.
I REALLY liked this class. Mainly because of how interdisciplinary this coursework was. Craig assumes you already know fundamental marksmanship so he doesn't waste time trying to teach people this. You should be decent at shooting your handgun to take this course.
You also have to have a certain level of fitness as well as some experience in martial arts is something that is good to be successful in the course.
If you want to test yourself self defense skills I HIGHLY recommend a force on force class. 100% recommend Craig Douglas' ECQC course. He is a very detailed oriented instruction and you get a plethora of stuff to take home. You also learn from other participants and their scenarios.
Next class I want to take with him is his vehicle course which is more along the lines of carjackings, road rage, etc.
Some classes and focal points for me next year with my training:
- Red Dot Acquisition. I need help with sight alignment more. May just get a private class with a buddy to help tweak my marksmanship a bit.
- Defending from vehicle. Think car jacking or a road rage incident. All plausible.
- Room clearing. To be honest though I've done a low light course and defensive pistol courses so I'm somewhat confident with my room clearing skills.
After the ECQC class I may get back into BJJ or Wrestling and integrate it in my fitness routine
- Red Dot Acquisition. I need help with sight alignment more. May just get a private class with a buddy to help tweak my marksmanship a bit.
- Defending from vehicle. Think car jacking or a road rage incident. All plausible.
- Room clearing. To be honest though I've done a low light course and defensive pistol courses so I'm somewhat confident with my room clearing skills.
After the ECQC class I may get back into BJJ or Wrestling and integrate it in my fitness routine
sold out
east
Screwed up... till tha casket drops!!
this is aluminum case but it's no tax outside la/ships free at $100sold out
CCI Blazer 9mm Luger 115 Grain Full Metal Jacket 50 Rounds Per Box - 3509
east
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brass is best. aluminum can't be reloaded as much but if you leave your trash at the range who cares lol. steel is harder on the extractor and might fail to extract at all in some guns.
“aluminum can't be reloaded as much but if you leave your trash at the range who cares lol.“
What do you mean I’m sorry if I’m buggin
east
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nah breh ur good haha... reloading is when you pick up your spent cases and recycle them to make more ammo... so if u don't do this then there's not much difference