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from the home of coca-cola, i'm not referring to s
When did they ever sell the Salka fight as anything but a Showcase:stopitslime:
I didn't say he did or didn't... but you got nikkas acting like Garcia didn't chose to fight dude and wanted to fight someone else instead.. like it was all Brother Al idea, and Swift had no control over his opponent and is forced to follow Als guidance :stopitslime: :camby: fighting Salka aint doing shyt for your career but then he makes that dumb ass statement about fighting IBF 140 champ Lamont Peterson..
 

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I didn't say he did or didn't... but you got nikkas acting like Garcia didn't chose to fight dude and wanted to fight someone else instead.. like it was all Brother Al idea, and Swift had no control over his opponent and is forced to follow Als guidance :stopitslime: :camby: fighting Salka aint doing shyt for your career but then makes that dumb ass statement about fighting IBF 140 champ Lamont Peterson..
Nobody is saying Swift was forced to fight it and that he has no control. All that's being said is that Danny doesn't call out or actively seek any opponent to fight. He's said plenty of times he lets his team pick his opponents and then he gives the ok, regardless of who the opponent is.

Like I've said before, some fighters don't play to the politics. They just go out there and fight, they don't give a fukk who their opponent is.

You of all people should know this...

 

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dont forget about austin trout this friday on fnf...


Boxer Austin Trout looking to reclaim his contender status


By Kevin Iole Yahoo Sports

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It's difficult for a lot of fight fans to understand how someone who looked so good, so dominant, so complete as Austin Trout did against Miguel Cotto could then, a year later, look as feeble as Trout did in a one-sided defeat to Erislandy Lara.

Trout, who after his Dec. 1, 2012, victory over Cotto at Madison Square Garden was near the top of the sport, didn't have his heart into his bout against Lara and suffered a severe beating.

Lara dominated Trout at the Barclays Center in the New York borough of Brooklyn on Dec. 7, 2013, knocking him down in the 11th round to punctuate a surprisingly one-sided match. Two of the judges gave Lara nine of the 12 rounds and the third gave him 10 of the 12.

To be honest, it probably wasn’t that close..
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Trout hasn't been seen since, but he'll return to the ring on Friday when he takes on Daniel Dawson at the Pechanga Resort in Temecula, Calif., in a match televised on ESPN2.
His promoter for Friday's bout, Dan Goossen, comes from a long line of boxing siblings. His younger brother, Joe, is one of the sport's finest trainers.

And so Dan Goossen has a great perspective on what ailed Trout.

"We're being selfish if we think a fighter, any fighter, who is having personal issues, particularly when it involves family, can get in there and perform the same way," Goossen said. "When it involves death and sickness, you just can't turn a blind eye on that and the impact it can have on a fighter."

Life doesn't stop just because a fighter has a bout scheduled. Trout's grandmother, whom he was very close to, died last year, not long before he had to fight Lara.

Trout, who was coming off a defeat to Canelo Alvarez that may have oddly boosted his stock, simply was in no frame of mind to fight.

But he had a contract and he went forward with the bout.

"I was an emotional wreck going back into Brooklyn, which was her hometown," Trout said. "Being there and not seeing her, man, I can't tell you how many times I broke down and just cried my heart out."

The character, the courage and the fortitude that had marked Trout in his previous fights, including his wide victory over Cotto and his disputed defeat to Alvarez, was absent in the fight against Lara.

Trout wanted to be anywhere but in the ring that night, and it showed in his performance.

It's a part of the game the media and the public often overlook. Fighters are human, too, with the same kind of emotions that other people have.

But because they're so stoic in the ring, it's often easy to forget how personal issues can get in the way of performance.

"We're treated like racehorses by the promoters, and the fans, in a sense, treat us the same way," Trout said. "It's like [they say], 'I don't care what you're going through. You've got to show up and perform.' Boxing is 90 percent mental, and I can tell you this: If you're mind ain't right, it don't matter what you do, it ain't going to happen in there."

The Lara loss hurt, not only because it was so one-sided but also because it was his second in a row.

Goossen correctly noted that losses don't hurt a fighter as much now as they did a few years ago, but without a victory in nearly two years, it's high time Trout gets back to the winner's circle.

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"I feel like when I'm clicking, I'm still one of the best out there," Trout said. "Look what I did with Cotto. That was me when I'm focused and ready and prepared and mentally into it. That Lara fight, he's a tricky fighter and a very smart fighter, and I don't want to take anything away from him, but in a sense, I think you have to throw it out. I wasn't on my A game. I didn't want to be there. It was the worst night I ever had with boxing gloves on."
A win, particularly an impressive one, should put him back into the mix. Dawson is 40-3-1 with 26 knockouts, though he's not on the same level as guys like Cotto, Alvarez and Lara.

But he'll be a good barometer for where Trout stands.

"Dawson is one of those really good gatekeepers who will provide us some answers about Austin," Goossen said. "This fight is an important one for him because he has a lot of questions to answer. He has to answer the questions that a lot of former world champions had to answer before him. Can he get back to the heights he once reached, or is he incapable of getting there any more? I think we'll have a much better idea after Friday night."

Trout believes he can do so, and hopes to show enough that he'll be able to land rematches with both Alvarez and Lara.

He said he'd also be willing to jump to middleweight to fight former champion Sergio Martinez, who lost his belt to Cotto on June 7, if Martinez is interested.

Trout hasn't lost his confidence and is convinced that 12 good rounds will bring back his mojo.

"I put in the work and I think that's going to show," he said. "This is just the beginning for me to show what I can do."
 

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from the home of coca-cola, i'm not referring to s
Nobody is saying Swift was forced to fight it and that he has no control. All that's being said is that Danny doesn't call out or actively seek any opponent to fight. He's said plenty of times he lets his team pick his opponents and then he gives the ok, regardless of who the opponent is.

Like I've said before, some fighters don't play to the politics. They just go out there and fight, they don't give a fukk who their opponent is.

You of all people should know this...



And thats my only problem.. "Regarless of your opponent??" :why: when they're offering to feed the ranked #456 contender to you, you're supposed to put your foot down and refuse. Especially when you have the WBC protesting it... Pac wouldn't have taken that fight... fukk you btw :pacspit:
 

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That means Stephen Espinoza and the entire Showtime network is counting on Adrien Broner aka AB aka About Billions aka The Problem aka The Can Man, cause anybody CAN GET IT aka Alotta Burberry aka About The Beard aka Still Mr. HBO even though I fight on Showtime aka Mr. Fresh, Fly, Flashy aka The 3x Champion at 3 different divisions to do what he does best...bring in a milli more:wow:
And that is why I am hoping nobody but us in The Ring watch this card and it has nothing to do with my hatred of Broner either. I just think boxing as a sport will be better off if Showtime gives Espinoza the boot and takes away Haymon's ability to orchestrate these bullshyt match-ups for his clients that net them crazy cable/PPV money.
 

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I actually don't criticize Haymon as much as most people these days do. Like I said before, his methods are terrible for the fans, but great for his clients. But at the end of the days, his clients are the only ones he has to answer to, not us. It's his job as an advisor to maximize his fighters earning profits.If anything, I gotta give him some props for that. Boxing has historically been a sport where it's athletes have been ripped off and fukked over countless amount of times.

If anybody should be held accountable for this bullshyt, it's the networks for giving the ok to air these bullshyt fights. Espinoza is Haymon's bytch, and we should all hope he gets axed sometime in the near future
 

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I don't shyt on GGG though. He's a casualty of the network wars, plus people in his division (*cough Cotto*) don't want anything to do with him.

It's unfortunate he's been fighting the Bull Buchanons and Balls Mahoneys of the world, but there's not much he can do about that. It's not on him :manny:
 
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