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[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Again....it's business. Andrade has CONSTANTLY stated that he wants someone who's last name begins with "C" and ends with "O", and that Lara is a last resort because:






Result: Business 101. He would pick Lara last out of the Charlos, Cotto, Canelo because it would be the least paying/least entertaining matchup out of the 5 names.



Why you lose all business sense when it comes to discussing Andrade beats me, but it's not going to bode well for you in 2017 after Andrade beats Lara and Charlo




8 months?


That's funny, because I could've swore Andrade fought in June, the WBA didn't order him to fight Culcay until July 2016, and it's only December 2016 right now. That seems to only be 5 months by my math



You know what else is even funnier though, Lara hadn't fought since May and didn't get an opponent until December 13th 2016......so, by MY math, it seems it took Lara 7 months to get a fight done with a Rabbi



If Lara wanted the fight, he had an almost 2 month window ( May 22nd - July 15th) where he could've had his team negotiate a deal with Andrade's to make the fight



He didn't even TRY to fight Andrade at all.....but yet you're claiming he wants the fight though



Like, yall don't even realize how crazy this is all gonna look when I re-up these posts sometime in 2017 after Andrade beats these guys















First, you say James Kirkland is a draw and now you're saying Erislandy Lara is one



The random stuff Andrade haters say

Compared to Andrade...Kirkland N Lara are draws...because thats what we are discussing...let that sink in


You wanna disagree show some receipts...ticket sales, TV numbers, main events... Show me how Andrade gets the TVs N puters Putin


You wanna talk business why Andrade fightin Culcay.... But can't wrap your mind around why the actual champs are telling Mr 5 figures...get on TV first


For one its "bu bu bu but its a duck, they scary"


For the other its

 

[Newzz]

Compared to Andrade...Kirkland N Lara are draws...because thats what we are discussing...let that sink in


You wanna disagree show some receipts...ticket sales, TV numbers, main events... Show me how Andrade gets the TVs N puters Putin


You wanna talk business why Andrade fightin Culcay.... But can't wrap your mind around why the actual champs are telling Mr 5 figures...get on TV first


For one its "bu bu bu but its a duck, they scary"


For the other its

Keep digging your hole

 

[Newzz]

Lara's mandatory, Charlo's mandatory, Canelo's mandatory....all of these nikkas losing to Andrade in 2017 (if they don't try and vacate) & I'm taking 2 week avi AND sig bets on all 3 of those match ups


I expect @((ReFleX)) (Canelo vs Andrade), @ChocolateGiddyUp (Jermell Charlo vs Andrade), and @Black_Jesus (Lara vs Andrade) to accept the bets with no hesitation....since yall so confident that Andrade can't beat them

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Lara mandatory, Charlo mandatory, Canelo mandatory....one of these nikkas losing to Andrade in 2017 & I'm taking 2 week avi AND sig bets on all 3 of those match ups.


I expect @((ReFleX)), @ChocolateGiddyUp, and @Black_Jesus to accept the bets with no hesitation....since yall so confident that Andrade can't beat them

.....I aint bettin on nobody except canelo. I never once said andrade CAN'T beat them. just that it wouldn't surprise me if he lost to em all either. I mean the guy got a split decision victory over vanes martirosyan. yea he deserved a UD, but it was still a really competitive fight in which he got knocked down off a flush left hand square on the chin. he gets hit like that by a charlo/canelo right hand, there's a good chance he's going to sleep. it's just funny that you act like he's in a league of his own or something. all these guy's definitely have the tools to beat him, just like he MAY have the tools to beat them as well. but he's unproven. and that's what people are trying to tell you. you also implied canelo wanted no problems with j rock either. and as we found out, he ended up having that amir khan chin. that's why I could care less about how great a fighter looks vs average opponents. he's not legit to me until I see him look great vs the top guys.



if canelo ever made a comment saying andrade is a last resort, you would be shytting on him non stop callin him a shook one. andrade goes hard as fukk on the charlo's, but when it comes to lara it's "yea that's possible. maybe"....it's pretty obvious he knows lara is the toughest fight out there for him. he's not tryin to fukk up his hype train before it even takes off.

 

[Big Boss]

This catfish and okra

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Yessssir! I left after I the #BeterBeast fight to get in my ex demons sugar walls.

Still the right decision brehs.

 

[THE MACHINE]

Arms too short to box with the god...

Takam was giving him that work at range for about 2/3rds of their fight until got stupid (or tired).

Chambers was boxing him up too in their fight with the jab, simple 1-2's and some side to side movement...

Wilder was all wrong for Povetkin. I maintained that Wilder should took that fight anyway...roids or not...Povetkin wasn't beating him.




This fight still trip me out...to see someone who dominated our local amateur scene (and the national scene in some respects) so effortlessly since he was a youngin...get dismantled and toyed with just as effortlessly

It should have been a draw and I'm sticking to it

 

[Newzz]

.....I aint bettin on nobody except canelo. I never once said andrade CAN'T beat them. just that it wouldn't surprise me if he lost to em all either. I mean the guy got a split decision victory over vanes martirosyan. yea he deserved a UD, but it was still a really competitive fight in which he got knocked down off a flush left hand square on the chin. he gets hit like that by a charlo/canelo right hand, there's a good chance he's going to sleep. it's just funny that you act like he's in a league of his own or something. all these guy's definitely have the tools to beat him, just like he MAY have the tools to beat them as well. but he's unproven. and that's what people are trying to tell you. you also implied canelo wanted no problems with j rock either. and as we found out, he ended up having that amir khan chin. that's why I could care less about how great a fighter looks vs average opponents. he's not legit to me until I see him look great vs the top guys.



if canelo ever made a comment saying andrade is a last resort, you would be shytting on him non stop callin him a shook one. andrade goes hard as fukk on the charlo's, but when it comes to lara it's "yea that's possible. maybe"....it's pretty obvious he knows lara is the toughest fight out there for him. he's not tryin to fukk up his hype train before it even takes off.

Ok

 

[The axe murderer]

Funny how on esb there were hundreds of threads bytching about floyd and the IV use, Joshua being on the juice, Marquez on the juice for the 4th pacquiao fight despite not getting caught but the moment their golden boys like povetkin gets busted they be like ''every top athlete juices''
''its an Al Haymom conspiracy''
''this is a political move meant to descredit russia
WOAT boxing forum on the net

 

[mr. smoke weed]

That's exactly how it's going to go

Who do you predict is going to say that pat and @Newzz and everyone that dapped that post?

Triple G isn't Floyd. He will get props when he beats Jacobs, and it will be his first legit good win. Also his first fight against a natural MW that isn't a bum.

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Save up that check you just got


Drinks on pat

Henny White of course

Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit everything on @patscorpio ! Pat for that

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Lara's mandatory, Charlo's mandatory, Canelo's mandatory....all of these nikkas losing to Andrade in 2017 (if they don't try and vacate) & I'm taking 2 week avi AND sig bets on all 3 of those match ups


I expect @((ReFleX)) (Canelo vs Andrade), @ChocolateGiddyUp (Jermell Charlo vs Andrade), and @Black_Jesus (Lara vs Andrade) to accept the bets with no hesitation....since yall so confident that Andrade can't beat them

I aint no damn Jermell Charlo Stan...I'm one of the first nikkas to call him the bad Charlo


I want Andrade to fight Lara...I want Andrade to fight Mell Charlo...So Jermall can whoop the holy shyt outta boo boo who thinks he can bully Jermall...youll get your bet then


I want the muhfukker on TV....don't tell me business this business that...then get in your feelings when the Charlos or Canelo or Cotto pull the business card on Mr 5 figures...foolish

 

[The axe murderer]

Funny how on esb there were hundreds of threads bytching about floyd and the IV use, Joshua being on the juice, Marquez on the juice for the 4th pacquiao fight despite not getting caught but the moment their golden boys like povetkin gets busted they be like ''every top athlete juices''
''its an Al Haymom conspiracy''
''this is a political move meant to descredit russia
WOAT boxing forum on the net

I ain't kidding

Spoiler: esb al haymon

The Povetkin situation smells like an Al Haymon conspiracy

@Newzz @patscorpio

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Who do you predict is going to say that pat and @Newzz and everyone that dapped that post?

Triple G isn't Floyd. He will get props when he beats Jacobs, and it will be his first legit good win. Also his first fight against a natural MW that isn't a bum.

I give credit to GGG for the Murray fight...hell get credit for Jacobs...more credit for Jacobs then any other 160 out there BJS, Lee, Eubanks

 

[Black_Jesus]

Not sure if posted

Canelo Alvarez named
mandatory challenger for Billy Joe Saunders
10:36 PM ET

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  Dan RafaelESPN Senior Writer

Canelo Alvarez was awarded middleweight mandatory challenger status by the WBO on Tuesday, setting him up for a possible fight with world titleholder Billy Joe Saunders this spring.

On Dec. 10, Golden Boy Promotions, Alvarez's promoter, requested the position for Alvarez.

Alvarez is the reigning WBO junior middleweight titleholder, but he intends to move up to middleweight to fight at least once more before an expected September 2017 megafight with unified middleweight world titleholder Gennady Golovkin, as long as each boxer wins an intervening fight.

The WBO awarded Alvarez the requested position over Avtandil Khurtsidze, whom the organization ranks No. 1. On Dec. 8, Khurtsidze also requested the mandatory position to fight Saunders, who was well over the time limit to make a mandatory defense, which is every nine months, per WBO rules.

In its resolution on Tuesday, the WBO wrote that the organization's championship committee had to "decide, per WBO regulations, and in the best interest of the sport, which of these fighters will be designated the mandatory challenger."

Khurtsidze (32-2-2, 21 KOs), 37, a native of the former Soviet Republic of Georgia and based in New York, is coming off a 10th-round knockout victory against then-undefeated Antoine Douglas in his biggest win on March 5.

But in naming Alvarez the mandatory challenger, the WBO cited his extensive résumé against top-flight opponents, including wins against Miguel Cotto, Erislandy Lara and Austin Trout.

The WBO said Alvarez has become "a boxing fan's idol" and is a "crowd favorite, with more than 52,000 fans present in his recent bout against Liam Smith in Dallas. He is the top pay-per-view fighter on HBO, [and] his presence has given that category a renewed interest in boxing. At this moment, [he] will give boxing the maximum required exposure.

"In view of the facts presented above, in accordance with the WBO regulations, and weighing the merits to be considered, the championship committee has decided that, in the best interest of boxing, Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez should be the mandatory challenger."

The Khurtsidze camp has 10 days to appeal the ruling.

Alvarez, 26, was the former middleweight world champion -- albeit fighting those bouts at a contract weight of 155 pounds -- but he vacated his title and moved down to junior middleweight in September, before knocking out Smith in the ninth round to win a world title.

Alvarez (48-1-1, 34 KOs), of Mexico, suffered an avulsion fracture in his right thumb against Smith, forcing him to give up a Dec. 10 date for his next fight. There is a chance Alvarez could return in February, but that is unlikely, according to Golden Boy president Eric Gomez.

Instead, Alvarez likely will wait for his first 160-pound fight on May 6 -- Cinco de Mayo weekend -- and it could come against Saunders.

"We haven't decided yet what we want to do," Gomez told ESPN. "We'll make a decision after the holidays. It's looking more and more like we're going to wait for Canelo's next fight until May. We don't want to take any chances with his hand. You have to be careful. We want to make sure it's 100 percent. The doctor hasn't given him clearance yet. He'll go see the doctor after Christmas.

"If we don't pursue the mandatory with Saunders, there are a couple of other options."

One of the options is a possible all-Mexican catchweight showdown between Alvarez and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. (50-2-1, 32 KOs) at around 164 pounds. The camps have been talking about the fight in recent weeks.

Of course, if Alvarez faces Saunders in May and wins, it would set up the Golovkin bout as a unification fight.

Golovkin is scheduled to fight Daniel Jacobs in a match between the top two 160-pound boxers in the world on March 18 on HBO PPV at New York's Madison Square Garden. That fight was announced on Saturday.

Saunders (24-0, 12 KOs), 27, of England, outpointed Andy Lee to win the belt last December. Saunders did not fight again until making his first defense on Dec. 3 in a very shaky unanimous decision win against Artur Akavov in Paisley, Scotland.[/quote]
Canelo named mandatory challenger for Saunders