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Still fights like an amateur, wide hooks thrown in flurries like she's still aiming at headgear until they get tied up. I don't see the hype with her at all.
Yeah shyt needs to be tightened up.
Needs a new trainer, doesn't sit on her punches properly nor does she turn them over well.
She needs a lot of work technically.
 

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The Problem With Danny Garcia


By Andreas Hale

On September 14, 2013, Danny Garcia silenced all of his naysayers with a 12-round unanimous decision against Lucas Matthysse. It was a fight that many expected Garcia to lose on a huge stage (Mayweather-Canelo). However, Garcia proved them all wrong by turning back Matthysse’s pressure with a measured attack and a solid jab. It was supposed to be Garcia’s breakout moment.

But it wasn’t.

What has happened since Garcia’s big victory against Matthysse is a head-scratching sequence of events where Garcia’s stock has taken a hit despite winning his next six fights. A combination of lackluster performances and poor matchmaking have hurt the once promising (actually, still promising) 29-year-old Puerto Rican with a record of 33-1 (19 knockouts).

It started with his homecoming of sorts fight when he faced Mauricio Herrera in Puerto Rico six months after beating Matthysse. What was thought to be a showcase fight ended up becoming a near disaster as Garcia escaped with a majority decision that many onlookers thought he lost.

Rather than rebuild his credibility in his next fight as the WBA (Super), WBC, The Ring and lineal light welterweight champion, Garcia opted to face Rod Salka. It was an terrible mismatch that Garcia took advantage of and scored a 2nd round KO. Unfortunately, nobody cared. He stepped up his competition a bit when he squared off with Lamont Peterson — who was stopped in three rounds by Matthysse — the following April. Once again, Garcia squeezed out a victory after Peterson’s movement gave him a great deal of problems early on. If Peterson would have stepped on the gas a round earlier, he may have pulled off a decision.



Things didn’t get better as Garcia teed off on a pair of fighters whose best years were behind them in Paulie Malignaggi and Robert Guerrero. He won both fights and took hold of the vacant WBC welterweight title by beating Guerrero. However, the naysayers were out in full force considering that the likes of Shawn Porter and other quality names had allegedly called out Garcia to no avail. Samuel Vargas was the next overmatched victim who was stopped in seven rounds. But with no place to go, Garcia’s next fight would find him against Keith Thurman in a battle of unbeaten. Thurman controlled much of the fight but eased off on the aggression in the later rounds and nearly gifted Garcia the decision. Judges saw it in favor of Thurman and Garcia’s unbeaten record now had a blemish.

danny-garcia%20(8)_5.jpg


With the Thurman loss in his rearview, Swift’s team decided that it would be best for him to take on Brandon Rios on February 17, 2018. But this isn’t the Bam Bam who plowed through opponents as a lightweight. Rios’ best years are clearly behind him as he’s suffered losses to Timothy Bradley, Manny Pacquiao and Mike Alvarado in his previous six fights. The name is all that matters for Garcia’s team and they will gladly cash another check before taking on tougher opposition.

This may not necessarily be 100% Garcia’s fault, but he has to take a little bit of the blame by way of his matchups or his performances. He’s an excellent counterpuncher with a scintillating left hook that will put just about anybody down. The problem has been that he plays to the level of his competition and doesn’t always look as great as he should against lesser opposition. The other side of this is that he has been challenging names that many would file in the “has been” section of the boxing catalog.

The 147 pound division is stacked with talent and Garcia isn’t going to be able to avoid the more dangerous names much longer. This wouldn’t be as much of an issue if Garcia didn’t say the things he has said in the media.

Recently, Garcia questioned whether Terence Crawford — who many peg as the #1 pound for pound fighter in the world — is a top 10 contender in the welterweight division. And in order to face Garcia, Crawford would first have to take on Errol Spence Jr.



“The fight can always happen. When we fight, we want to make a lot of money,” said Danny Garcia to Fighthype. “You got to build up to that. He still has got to make his way into the division. He didn’t fight nobody in the division yet. You can’t even say somebody is even top 10 if they never fought nobody in the division yet.”

The funny thing about this is that most see Spence as the next pound for pound great and Garcia is suggesting that two top tier talents square off before they face him. It’s utterly ridiculous that Garcia, who just lost to Thurman and is no longer a champion, would say that Crawford needs to fight Spence before facing him. What exactly has Garcia done to elevate himself above either fighter? The Matthysse fight is so far in the rearview mirror that he can no longer hang his hat on that victory.

The truth of the matter is that Danny Garcia needs to start calling out the likes of Shawn Porter, Errol Spence Jr., Terence Crawford and the like in order to gain respect. As a welterweight, he has yet to beat top tier competition and has been called “Cherry (Picker)” Garcia because of it. Brandon Rios is yet another money grab that the Philly fighter is taking rather than accepting a challenge to face Spence.

It’s not that Garcia isn’t a good fighter, but he isn’t acting like one. He’s been matched up poorly and hasn’t executed like he should. The momentum he had after beating Matthysse is long gone and the skeptics are questioning whether he was ever that good to begin with. He can silence the naysayers by challenging the upper crust of the division and performing.

The potential has always been there for Danny Garcia. It’s now time to follow through because nobody is up for entertaining this charade any longer.
 

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The Problem With Danny Garcia


By Andreas Hale

On September 14, 2013, Danny Garcia silenced all of his naysayers with a 12-round unanimous decision against Lucas Matthysse. It was a fight that many expected Garcia to lose on a huge stage (Mayweather-Canelo). However, Garcia proved them all wrong by turning back Matthysse’s pressure with a measured attack and a solid jab. It was supposed to be Garcia’s breakout moment.

But it wasn’t.

What has happened since Garcia’s big victory against Matthysse is a head-scratching sequence of events where Garcia’s stock has taken a hit despite winning his next six fights. A combination of lackluster performances and poor matchmaking have hurt the once promising (actually, still promising) 29-year-old Puerto Rican with a record of 33-1 (19 knockouts).

It started with his homecoming of sorts fight when he faced Mauricio Herrera in Puerto Rico six months after beating Matthysse. What was thought to be a showcase fight ended up becoming a near disaster as Garcia escaped with a majority decision that many onlookers thought he lost.

Rather than rebuild his credibility in his next fight as the WBA (Super), WBC, The Ring and lineal light welterweight champion, Garcia opted to face Rod Salka. It was an terrible mismatch that Garcia took advantage of and scored a 2nd round KO. Unfortunately, nobody cared. He stepped up his competition a bit when he squared off with Lamont Peterson — who was stopped in three rounds by Matthysse — the following April. Once again, Garcia squeezed out a victory after Peterson’s movement gave him a great deal of problems early on. If Peterson would have stepped on the gas a round earlier, he may have pulled off a decision.



Things didn’t get better as Garcia teed off on a pair of fighters whose best years were behind them in Paulie Malignaggi and Robert Guerrero. He won both fights and took hold of the vacant WBC welterweight title by beating Guerrero. However, the naysayers were out in full force considering that the likes of Shawn Porter and other quality names had allegedly called out Garcia to no avail. Samuel Vargas was the next overmatched victim who was stopped in seven rounds. But with no place to go, Garcia’s next fight would find him against Keith Thurman in a battle of unbeaten. Thurman controlled much of the fight but eased off on the aggression in the later rounds and nearly gifted Garcia the decision. Judges saw it in favor of Thurman and Garcia’s unbeaten record now had a blemish.

danny-garcia%20(8)_5.jpg


With the Thurman loss in his rearview, Swift’s team decided that it would be best for him to take on Brandon Rios on February 17, 2018. But this isn’t the Bam Bam who plowed through opponents as a lightweight. Rios’ best years are clearly behind him as he’s suffered losses to Timothy Bradley, Manny Pacquiao and Mike Alvarado in his previous six fights. The name is all that matters for Garcia’s team and they will gladly cash another check before taking on tougher opposition.

This may not necessarily be 100% Garcia’s fault, but he has to take a little bit of the blame by way of his matchups or his performances. He’s an excellent counterpuncher with a scintillating left hook that will put just about anybody down. The problem has been that he plays to the level of his competition and doesn’t always look as great as he should against lesser opposition. The other side of this is that he has been challenging names that many would file in the “has been” section of the boxing catalog.

The 147 pound division is stacked with talent and Garcia isn’t going to be able to avoid the more dangerous names much longer. This wouldn’t be as much of an issue if Garcia didn’t say the things he has said in the media.

Recently, Garcia questioned whether Terence Crawford — who many peg as the #1 pound for pound fighter in the world — is a top 10 contender in the welterweight division. And in order to face Garcia, Crawford would first have to take on Errol Spence Jr.



“The fight can always happen. When we fight, we want to make a lot of money,” said Danny Garcia to Fighthype. “You got to build up to that. He still has got to make his way into the division. He didn’t fight nobody in the division yet. You can’t even say somebody is even top 10 if they never fought nobody in the division yet.”

The funny thing about this is that most see Spence as the next pound for pound great and Garcia is suggesting that two top tier talents square off before they face him. It’s utterly ridiculous that Garcia, who just lost to Thurman and is no longer a champion, would say that Crawford needs to fight Spence before facing him. What exactly has Garcia done to elevate himself above either fighter? The Matthysse fight is so far in the rearview mirror that he can no longer hang his hat on that victory.

The truth of the matter is that Danny Garcia needs to start calling out the likes of Shawn Porter, Errol Spence Jr., Terence Crawford and the like in order to gain respect. As a welterweight, he has yet to beat top tier competition and has been called “Cherry (Picker)” Garcia because of it. Brandon Rios is yet another money grab that the Philly fighter is taking rather than accepting a challenge to face Spence.

It’s not that Garcia isn’t a good fighter, but he isn’t acting like one. He’s been matched up poorly and hasn’t executed like he should. The momentum he had after beating Matthysse is long gone and the skeptics are questioning whether he was ever that good to begin with. He can silence the naysayers by challenging the upper crust of the division and performing.

The potential has always been there for Danny Garcia. It’s now time to follow through because nobody is up for entertaining this charade any longer.

Nothing but truth....
 

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Weak ass article :hhh:


PED = "stepped up competition a bit" for Swift


Swift fights Thurman cuz he had "no where else to go"


The nikka jus attempted to unify against undefeated Keith Thurman...but Swift Needs to fight the upper echelon of Fighters still

Mean while it's :whoa::picard: when the rest are asked to do what weak ass Danny Garcia is expected to do
 

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Weak ass article :hhh:


PED = "stepped up competition a bit" for Swift


Swift fights Thurman cuz he had "no where else to go"


The nikka jus attempted to unify against undefeated Keith Thurman...but Swift Needs to fight the upper echelon of Fighters still

Mean while it's :whoa::picard: when the rest are asked to do what weak ass Danny Garcia is expected to do

I think the point was basically that ever since he beat Matthysse almost 5 years ago he’s lacking an impressive win. Since then he either fought lackluster opponents (and even in these cases he struggled sometimes) or if he stepped up (Peterson, Thurman) he lost or debatably won, either way he didn’t impress anyone...


the other major truth in the article is that Swift’s welterweight resume is dogshyt.
He’s in 147 for 2 years now and he has 3 wins over a shot Guerrero, a Paulie who was brought there from a nursing home and Samuel Vargas, besides that he has a loss to Thurman which is likely only hasn’t ended up being a dominant UD because Thurman did nothing in the last few rounds.

And now he fights Rios, another opponent who is shot/over the hill. Garcia will have 5 fights in 147 without 1 impressive win.
 

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The Problem With Danny Garcia


By Andreas Hale

On September 14, 2013, Danny Garcia silenced all of his naysayers with a 12-round unanimous decision against Lucas Matthysse. It was a fight that many expected Garcia to lose on a huge stage (Mayweather-Canelo). However, Garcia proved them all wrong by turning back Matthysse’s pressure with a measured attack and a solid jab. It was supposed to be Garcia’s breakout moment.

But it wasn’t.

What has happened since Garcia’s big victory against Matthysse is a head-scratching sequence of events where Garcia’s stock has taken a hit despite winning his next six fights. A combination of lackluster performances and poor matchmaking have hurt the once promising (actually, still promising) 29-year-old Puerto Rican with a record of 33-1 (19 knockouts).

It started with his homecoming of sorts fight when he faced Mauricio Herrera in Puerto Rico six months after beating Matthysse. What was thought to be a showcase fight ended up becoming a near disaster as Garcia escaped with a majority decision that many onlookers thought he lost.

Rather than rebuild his credibility in his next fight as the WBA (Super), WBC, The Ring and lineal light welterweight champion, Garcia opted to face Rod Salka. It was an terrible mismatch that Garcia took advantage of and scored a 2nd round KO. Unfortunately, nobody cared. He stepped up his competition a bit when he squared off with Lamont Peterson — who was stopped in three rounds by Matthysse — the following April. Once again, Garcia squeezed out a victory after Peterson’s movement gave him a great deal of problems early on. If Peterson would have stepped on the gas a round earlier, he may have pulled off a decision.



Things didn’t get better as Garcia teed off on a pair of fighters whose best years were behind them in Paulie Malignaggi and Robert Guerrero. He won both fights and took hold of the vacant WBC welterweight title by beating Guerrero. However, the naysayers were out in full force considering that the likes of Shawn Porter and other quality names had allegedly called out Garcia to no avail. Samuel Vargas was the next overmatched victim who was stopped in seven rounds. But with no place to go, Garcia’s next fight would find him against Keith Thurman in a battle of unbeaten. Thurman controlled much of the fight but eased off on the aggression in the later rounds and nearly gifted Garcia the decision. Judges saw it in favor of Thurman and Garcia’s unbeaten record now had a blemish.

danny-garcia%20(8)_5.jpg


With the Thurman loss in his rearview, Swift’s team decided that it would be best for him to take on Brandon Rios on February 17, 2018. But this isn’t the Bam Bam who plowed through opponents as a lightweight. Rios’ best years are clearly behind him as he’s suffered losses to Timothy Bradley, Manny Pacquiao and Mike Alvarado in his previous six fights. The name is all that matters for Garcia’s team and they will gladly cash another check before taking on tougher opposition.

This may not necessarily be 100% Garcia’s fault, but he has to take a little bit of the blame by way of his matchups or his performances. He’s an excellent counterpuncher with a scintillating left hook that will put just about anybody down. The problem has been that he plays to the level of his competition and doesn’t always look as great as he should against lesser opposition. The other side of this is that he has been challenging names that many would file in the “has been” section of the boxing catalog.

The 147 pound division is stacked with talent and Garcia isn’t going to be able to avoid the more dangerous names much longer. This wouldn’t be as much of an issue if Garcia didn’t say the things he has said in the media.

Recently, Garcia questioned whether Terence Crawford — who many peg as the #1 pound for pound fighter in the world — is a top 10 contender in the welterweight division. And in order to face Garcia, Crawford would first have to take on Errol Spence Jr.



“The fight can always happen. When we fight, we want to make a lot of money,” said Danny Garcia to Fighthype. “You got to build up to that. He still has got to make his way into the division. He didn’t fight nobody in the division yet. You can’t even say somebody is even top 10 if they never fought nobody in the division yet.”

The funny thing about this is that most see Spence as the next pound for pound great and Garcia is suggesting that two top tier talents square off before they face him. It’s utterly ridiculous that Garcia, who just lost to Thurman and is no longer a champion, would say that Crawford needs to fight Spence before facing him. What exactly has Garcia done to elevate himself above either fighter? The Matthysse fight is so far in the rearview mirror that he can no longer hang his hat on that victory.

The truth of the matter is that Danny Garcia needs to start calling out the likes of Shawn Porter, Errol Spence Jr., Terence Crawford and the like in order to gain respect. As a welterweight, he has yet to beat top tier competition and has been called “Cherry (Picker)” Garcia because of it. Brandon Rios is yet another money grab that the Philly fighter is taking rather than accepting a challenge to face Spence.

It’s not that Garcia isn’t a good fighter, but he isn’t acting like one. He’s been matched up poorly and hasn’t executed like he should. The momentum he had after beating Matthysse is long gone and the skeptics are questioning whether he was ever that good to begin with. He can silence the naysayers by challenging the upper crust of the division and performing.

The potential has always been there for Danny Garcia. It’s now time to follow through because nobody is up for entertaining this charade any longer.

I remember r adding that al will give u two opps to choose from, a easy fight or a hard fight. I even heard angel say in video on why should u take hard fights when u can just take easy fights and make money.

Broner for the most part clearly fights the bigger names, he even says he don’t want easy fights cuz he knows others do in pbc and how it’s run.

Breaks my heart the Herrera against all odds went to Puerto Rico and whipped his ass and got the L on the score cards.

The hype before the fight and the music that Danny was coming home and Danny talking shyt to Herrera at the wiegh in talking about look at my body and look at his made it that much sweeter that he got his ass whipped, I’m sure he loses sleep about this fight to this day, the people of Puerto Rico were embarrassed that night.
 

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If Shields is gonna be a viable TV product going forward she needs to start laying these broads down. I don't get how she damn near 170 and not laying there jobbers out. These standing stoppages not gonna cut it.


She needs to refine her game as mentioned.
 

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I think the point was basically that ever since he beat Matthysse almost 5 years ago he’s lacking an impressive win. Since then he either fought lackluster opponents (and even in these cases he struggled sometimes) or if he stepped up (Peterson, Thurman) he lost or debatably won, either way he didn’t impress anyone...


the other major truth in the article is that Swift’s welterweight resume is dogshyt.
He’s in 147 for 2 years now and he has 3 wins over a shot Guerrero, a Paulie who was brought there from a nursing home and Samuel Vargas, besides that he has a loss to Thurman which is likely only hasn’t ended up being a dominant UD because Thurman did nothing in the last few rounds.

And now he fights Rios, another opponent who is shot/over the hill.

I remember r adding that al will give u two opps to choose from, a easy fight or a hard fight. I even heard angel say in video on why should u take hard fights when u can just take easy fights and make money.

Broner for the most part clearly fights the bigger names, he even says he don’t want easy fights cuz he knows others do in pbc and how it’s run.

Breaks my heart the Herrera against all odds went to Puerto Rico and whipped his ass and got the L on the score cards.

The hype before the fight and the music that Danny was coming home and Danny talking shyt to Herrera at the wiegh in talking about look at my body and look at his made it that much sweeter that he got his ass whipped, I’m sure he loses sleep about this fight to this day, the people of Puerto Rico were embarrassed that night.

I agree
 
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