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[reservoirdogs]

We've all seen him fight...and he's not basic. He's not elite, but he's not basic either. Especially in compairison to Indoungo, who yall Champion without ever seeing him win a fight on American soil



And by the way, you've backed your way into being the "go to guy" for when Indougo proves how weak he really is for the rest of his career Because Ima definitely make sure I tag you when Im talking down on him in the future




I cant believe yall fell for the "Charles Manyuchi of 2017" hype

Indongo blew out the water the same or higher level of opponents Lipinets just scraped through last Saturday

I´m fine with you tagging me if Indongo loses to Lipinets

just as I´m gonna have a field day here if Joshua KOs Wilder and it won´t even be close after all the talk and ridicule toward Joshua from Wilder and his fans. The bigger the talk the harder the crash to the concrete will be if he loses

Spoiler

I´m not even trying to talk up Indongo just really don´t think much of Lipinets

 

[merklman]

And this is exactly what I mean....the man said he was never offered anything or ever had discussions about any fight for Wilder, but yet you're believing Wilder wants a 50/50 split? How? He's never said anything about the purse and they've never discussed any purse






Fall for anything Team Joshua says, even if it contradicts the statements in the same article brehs:dead2:

It says the 50/50 split in the same article you posted . . . .

FYI Hearn is negotiating with team Parker . . .

 

[reservoirdogs]

He's not right



Since when does the B-Side dictates the splits & terms to the A-Side? Can you a provide an example of this happening in Boxing?

so let me understand this

Wilder crying on soc media that he wants to fight Joshua this spring, Joshua´s side more cool on it, they don´t necessarily want it in March or so, they are okay with summer or whatever they just want all the belts by the end of 2018
So... why is he the one who should initiate it...?
send them an offer and they can send a counter offer, etc... it´s not impossible just because it´s unusual

 

[reservoirdogs]

waiting for the new comments about how this also means they ducking Wilder

 

[merklman]

waiting for the new comments about how this also means they ducking Wilder

@Newzz

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

He's not right



Since when does the B-Side dictates the splits & terms to the A-Side? Can you a provide an example of this happening in Boxing?

Fight looking awfully similar to Canelo-GGG. There is a clear A-side that needs to B-side to maximize their fight potential and the B-side doesn't have the power to make the fight, but enough power to stand up in negotiations. The A-side is pushing blame on negotiations onto the B-side, when the B-side says just give us an offer and we will take it as long as it is fair (ie, an offer that shows you actually want to fight). The B-side is doing all the pre-fight marketing and calling out, while the A-side is doing all the excuses. The A-side has some serious stamina issues and would be facing their toughest test to date.



We all know this fight is up to Joshua and Hearn. Make a real offer and put the pressure on Wilder. We all saw what happened with GGG-Canelo. They are hard to negotiate with, we gave them a fair offer...who took longer with the contracts?

People will learn, GGG and Wilder are two guys who aren't fukking around. They are two guys who want to be stars, but also aren't dummies willing to get rolled over.

 

[reservoirdogs]

People will learn, GGG and Wilder are two guys who aren't fukking around. They are two guys who want to be stars, but also aren't dummies willing to get rolled over.

they are 2 B side fighters in big fights who behave as B sides usually... push harder for the fight on social media and etc. than the A side

if Wilder would be the A side now you would probably see Joshua calling him out and etc... while Wilder being more cool on it
It depends on the personalities too but more so on the structural positions imo

also it´s not the same situation, with Canelo vs Golovkin they marinated it way longer than they will do now that´s why I don´t understand the anger against Joshua here, they are well in time

 

[Newzz]

It says the 50/50 split in the same article you posted . . . .

FYI Hearn is negotiating with team Parker . . .

Again...Joshua himself said he's never heard a word of any negotiations. There's never been an offer. They've never discussed anything.



How someone can just assume Wilder wants a 50/50 split, without ever talking to anyone affialited with team Wilder or PBC is and another way to add obstacles.

 

[Newzz]

Can you read or nah bruh???





While bum squad shouting on instagram making no moves

100% Guaranteed that bumsquad ducks the offer coming his way from A-Side AJ Already know the built in excuses

UKasuals

 

[Newzz]

Indongo blew out the water the same or higher level of opponents Lipinets just scraped through last Saturday

I´m fine with you tagging me if Indongo loses to Lipinets

just as I´m gonna have a field day here if Joshua KOs Wilder and it won´t even be close after all the talk and ridicule toward Joshua from Wilder and his fans. The bigger the talk the harder the crash to the concrete will be if he loses

Spoiler

I´m not even trying to talk up Indongo just really don´t think much of Lipinets

Your spoiler alone tells me you don't believe in Indongo. However, you already talked yourself into a corner.



You riding or dying with that tall bum located in the sub-sahara brushes

 

[Newzz]

so let me understand this

Wilder crying on soc media that he wants to fight Joshua this spring, Joshua´s side more cool on it, they don´t necessarily want it in March or so, they are okay with summer or whatever they just want all the belts by the end of 2018
So... why is he the one who should initiate it...?
send them an offer and they can send a counter offer, etc... it´s not impossible just because it´s unusual

Again.....please advise me an occasion where the B-Side draws up a contract and determines the terms, conditions, splits, and venue to the A-Side?




i'll wait. you didn't answer the 1st time, so I'll allow you a retake.

 

[Newzz]

waiting for the new comments about how this also means they ducking Wilder

@Newzz

He scheduled a meeting is all yall want?







Again, make the FIGHT



I don't care about a meeting.....you prove you're not ducking by getting in the ring, not talking about maybe fighting

 

[Newzz]

Fight looking awfully similar to Canelo-GGG. There is a clear A-side that needs to B-side to maximize their fight potential and the B-side doesn't have the power to make the fight, but enough power to stand up in negotiations. The A-side is pushing blame on negotiations onto the B-side, when the B-side says just give us an offer and we will take it as long as it is fair (ie, an offer that shows you actually want to fight). The B-side is doing all the pre-fight marketing and calling out, while the A-side is doing all the excuses. The A-side has some serious stamina issues and would be facing their toughest test to date.



We all know this fight is up to Joshua and Hearn. Make a real offer and put the pressure on Wilder. We all saw what happened with GGG-Canelo. They are hard to negotiate with, we gave them a fair offer...who took longer with the contracts?

People will learn, GGG and Wilder are two guys who aren't fukking around. They are two guys who want to be stars, but also aren't dummies willing to get rolled over.

#Facts


And then, people who say this in reverse, cannot even point to a time in history where the B-Side is the one who gets to determine the terms & conditions, but because they are grasping for anything like Urkel before he falls, they would type that ridiculous notion........and when asked to provide just 1 single other time in history where this has occurred (the B-Side determining the particulars of the fight), they go all

on us

 

[merklman]

Again...Joshua himself said he's never heard a word of any negotiations. There's never been an offer. They've never discussed anything.



How someone can just assume Wilder wants a 50/50 split, without ever talking to anyone affialited with team Wilder or PBC is and another way to add obstacles.

Wilder and Parker are both hoping to land 50-50, if not close to equal purses for the contest, although judging by Joshua and promoter Eddie Hearn's media responses either are unlikely to get anywhere near that for a UK Pay-Per-View blockbuster.

This is written in the article you posted . .. Bumsquad got your mind in knots with the ducking and dodging

Half of that quote is accurate because Parkers promotor was on UK radio this morning saying they want closer to 50-50 but know a fight in the UK will give AJ the lions share . . .

What we do know is Wilder turned down 4X the payday he got against that Bum Stiverne at the weekend, by avoiding "Peasant" Whyte . . . So if its not about the money for Wilder, i better not hear you citing inadequate money when bumsquad ducks the AJ offer

You know what it is, Wilder knows what the plan is - thats why he's barking on social media and not doing a damn thing about it. Parker > Wilder > Fury . . .

Wilder 40 fights in and been feasting on bums, and STILL feasts on bums . . . Then starts barking when he knows Parker will be getting it next.

Now that he's got AJs attention, we'll start hearing the bumsquad excuses . . .

 

[merklman]

He scheduled a meeting is all yall want?







Again, make the FIGHT



I don't care about a meeting.....you prove you're not ducking by getting in the ring, not talking about maybe fighting

Wtf do you expect them to do other than have a civilised meeting with the bumsquad promotor? Get hearn on Instagram to send a video to Haymon? I guess if thats the Bumsquad negotiating tactic, no wonder Wilder's only fought scrubs his whole career