That suit is fly
Yall will never understand that Midwest flash
Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago....we just have a different "glow" when we see an outfit. We real loud with our outfits when we trying to show out
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That suit is fly
Yall will never understand that Midwest flash
Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago....we just have a different "glow" when we see an outfit. We real loud with our outfits when we trying to show out
Why do you say that?
After the Garcia fight, it was known Broner will still be at 140...he's not fighting above that.
Secondly, AB is THEE biggest payday at 140 and, like I had told yall, the Champs are going to be looking to face him for that payday.
Third, :abyoumad:?
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The Boxing media finally coming aboard the "Joshua needs to fight Wilder and quit playing" train
Now Is The Time To Make Joshua vs. Wilder
By Corey Erdman
The impact of Deontay Wilder's first round knockout over Bermane Stiverne came to light in my Instagram DMs on Sunday morning.
A close friend of mine, who appreciates boxing but isn't a rabid fan, sent me a video capture of Wilder folding Stiverne up unconscious, with the message: “WHO IS THIS GUY?!”
To the readers of this website, the knockout win may not be all that exciting. It can easily be played down—Stiverne was coming in on short notice, he'd lost to Wilder before, he was fighting at a career heaviest weight, he'd most recently struggled against Derric Rossy. All of those things are indeed true, but for the purposes of selling a potential fight against Anthony Joshua, they're utterly irrelevant.
The fact that the victory was so violent, so emphatic, and maybe most critically, so brief that it can be jammed into an Instagram video or a few short GIFs is what's really important. Wilder's performance is easily shareable—it's quick, it's jarring, it's impressive. The folks like my friend may not schedule their lives around fights every Saturday, but they'll sure find a minute or two to watch someone get knocked out.
No matter how “overrated” die hard boxing fans may declare Wilder or Joshua to be, no matter how badly they suggest they'd get thumped by their favorite golden era heavyweight, very few of those people don't tune in when either man fights, and none of them would miss it if they fought one another. Now, the casual fans who have seen the one round demolition job Wilder turned in are likely in that same category.
If he didn't before, on the heels of this victory, Wilder now presents the ultimate and perfect rival for Joshua.
“A king don’t chase the peasants. A king takes kings. I want Joshua. If he don’t give me the fight, we have other plans. The world want Joshua, the world want Wilder. I want Joshua. Joshua, come and see me, baby. No more dodging, no more excuses. Make the date, don’t wait,” said Wilder following his victory over Stiverne on Saturday. “I’ve been waiting on that fight for a long time now. I declare war upon you. Do you accept my challenge? I’ve been waiting for a long time. I know I’m the champion. I know I’m the best. Are you up for the test?”
Joshua's popularity in the United Kingdom is hard to overstate. His last two fights have drawn north of 160,000 fans total, and those tickets were sold in a matter of minutes. When he fought Wladimir Klitschko, who numerically and monetarily may be the greatest live gate draw in the history of boxing, it was thought that perhaps ticket sales were aided by him. But whatever drawing power Klitschko brought to the table that night, it's now obvious that Joshua either matched it, or has inhereted it. For his most recent fight in Wales, 70,000 people bought tickets to see him face what they thought would be Kubrat Pulev but wound up being Carlos Takam. Needless to say, neither man impacted the gate in any way.
There are only a handful of events that could even possibly draw 90,000 people in North America. There's certain college football teams that are able to do it, but university athletics benefit from a special kind of indoctrination and loyalty. NASCAR seldom approaches those numbers anymore, though the organization never officially releases attendance figures anyway. Music festivals can potentially do it, but only with a lineup of the biggest and most popular artists in the world. Aside from that, only special one-off sporting events may have a chance to draw that kind of a crowd. That's to say that if Joshua were to keep up his prodigious drawing power, he could become the greatest live gate draw in boxing history, and one of the world's biggest live gate attractions period.
Wilder may not be as phenomenally popular as Joshua—and indeed, much of that is due to boxing's popularity in American in comparison to the UK—but he's certainly no slouch. The Bronze Bomber has been a consistent draw in his home state of Alabama, and on Saturday he drew nearly 11,000 at Barclays Center on the same night as the biggest UFC card of the year at Madison Square Garden. And while the ratings have yet to be released for his most recent fight, his first bout with Stiverne is the highest rated Showtime telecast of at least the past decade.
"I was really interested to see the weight of Deontay Wilder on the scales. I texted that to Anthony today. I shouldn't really tell you the reply, but it was 'I'll eat him.'” Joshua's promoter Eddie Hearn told Sky Sports. “Joshua has told me we want all the belts and that means taking on all the champions. The gentleman over there sitting ringside, Tyson Fury, he's in the plans for 2018 as well. Joseph Parker as well. I had a text from his promoter tonight, asking if we fancy making that fight next. Everybody wants to fight Anthony Joshua and you will see him fight everybody."
Joshua's braintrust can be forgiven if they want to go after, say, Parker, first before worrying about Wilder. He's proven that he can fill a stadium while facing a nondescript Bulgarian or an aging, little known veteran from France. But the fight with Wilder will never be bigger than it would be if it were to be made right now.
While Wilder's knockout of Stiverne is still on highlight reels and still making the social media rounds, his buzz is the most palpable it's ever been.
The question is no longer “who is this guy?” It's “who is the man” in the heavyweight division?
Now Is The Time To Make Joshua vs. Wilder - Boxing News
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Now Is The Time To Make Joshua vs. Wilder
By Corey Erdman
The impact of Deontay Wilder's first round knockout over Bermane Stiverne came to light in my Instagram DMs on Sunday morning.
A close friend of mine, who appreciates boxing but isn't a rabid fan, sent me a video capture of Wilder folding Stiverne up unconscious, with the message: “WHO IS THIS GUY?!”
To the readers of this website, the knockout win may not be all that exciting. It can easily be played down—Stiverne was coming in on short notice, he'd lost to Wilder before, he was fighting at a career heaviest weight, he'd most recently struggled against Derric Rossy. All of those things are indeed true, but for the purposes of selling a potential fight against Anthony Joshua, they're utterly irrelevant.
The fact that the victory was so violent, so emphatic, and maybe most critically, so brief that it can be jammed into an Instagram video or a few short GIFs is what's really important. Wilder's performance is easily shareable—it's quick, it's jarring, it's impressive. The folks like my friend may not schedule their lives around fights every Saturday, but they'll sure find a minute or two to watch someone get knocked out.
No matter how “overrated” die hard boxing fans may declare Wilder or Joshua to be, no matter how badly they suggest they'd get thumped by their favorite golden era heavyweight, very few of those people don't tune in when either man fights, and none of them would miss it if they fought one another. Now, the casual fans who have seen the one round demolition job Wilder turned in are likely in that same category.
If he didn't before, on the heels of this victory, Wilder now presents the ultimate and perfect rival for Joshua.
“A king don’t chase the peasants. A king takes kings. I want Joshua. If he don’t give me the fight, we have other plans. The world want Joshua, the world want Wilder. I want Joshua. Joshua, come and see me, baby. No more dodging, no more excuses. Make the date, don’t wait,” said Wilder following his victory over Stiverne on Saturday. “I’ve been waiting on that fight for a long time now. I declare war upon you. Do you accept my challenge? I’ve been waiting for a long time. I know I’m the champion. I know I’m the best. Are you up for the test?”
Joshua's popularity in the United Kingdom is hard to overstate. His last two fights have drawn north of 160,000 fans total, and those tickets were sold in a matter of minutes. When he fought Wladimir Klitschko, who numerically and monetarily may be the greatest live gate draw in the history of boxing, it was thought that perhaps ticket sales were aided by him. But whatever drawing power Klitschko brought to the table that night, it's now obvious that Joshua either matched it, or has inhereted it. For his most recent fight in Wales, 70,000 people bought tickets to see him face what they thought would be Kubrat Pulev but wound up being Carlos Takam. Needless to say, neither man impacted the gate in any way.
There are only a handful of events that could even possibly draw 90,000 people in North America. There's certain college football teams that are able to do it, but university athletics benefit from a special kind of indoctrination and loyalty. NASCAR seldom approaches those numbers anymore, though the organization never officially releases attendance figures anyway. Music festivals can potentially do it, but only with a lineup of the biggest and most popular artists in the world. Aside from that, only special one-off sporting events may have a chance to draw that kind of a crowd. That's to say that if Joshua were to keep up his prodigious drawing power, he could become the greatest live gate draw in boxing history, and one of the world's biggest live gate attractions period.
Wilder may not be as phenomenally popular as Joshua—and indeed, much of that is due to boxing's popularity in American in comparison to the UK—but he's certainly no slouch. The Bronze Bomber has been a consistent draw in his home state of Alabama, and on Saturday he drew nearly 11,000 at Barclays Center on the same night as the biggest UFC card of the year at Madison Square Garden. And while the ratings have yet to be released for his most recent fight, his first bout with Stiverne is the highest rated Showtime telecast of at least the past decade.
"I was really interested to see the weight of Deontay Wilder on the scales. I texted that to Anthony today. I shouldn't really tell you the reply, but it was 'I'll eat him.'” Joshua's promoter Eddie Hearn told Sky Sports. “Joshua has told me we want all the belts and that means taking on all the champions. The gentleman over there sitting ringside, Tyson Fury, he's in the plans for 2018 as well. Joseph Parker as well. I had a text from his promoter tonight, asking if we fancy making that fight next. Everybody wants to fight Anthony Joshua and you will see him fight everybody."
Joshua's braintrust can be forgiven if they want to go after, say, Parker, first before worrying about Wilder. He's proven that he can fill a stadium while facing a nondescript Bulgarian or an aging, little known veteran from France. But the fight with Wilder will never be bigger than it would be if it were to be made right now.
While Wilder's knockout of Stiverne is still on highlight reels and still making the social media rounds, his buzz is the most palpable it's ever been.
The question is no longer “who is this guy?” It's “who is the man” in the heavyweight division?
Now Is The Time To Make Joshua vs. Wilder - Boxing News
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Anthony Joshua ‘ducking’ Deontay Wilder? Don’t be stupid - talkSPORT Opinion
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As soon as Deontay Wilder blew away his frankly woeful mandatory challenger Bermane Stiverne on Saturday night in New York, you could just tell this was going to happen.
A hyped up Wilder would inevitably call out Joshua, a hyped up American crowd would inevitably get behind him and some of the hyped up US media would inevitably come out with a fair bit of rubbish as a result.
The stupidest of this rubbish (which I have since heard from both fans and journalists) is the suggestion that unified WBA and IBF heavyweight champion of the world Anthony Joshua is ‘ducking’ WBC king Deontay Wilder.
Joshua’s team - particularly his promoter, Eddie Hearn - have made their position on the situation quite clear. They WILL fight Deontay Wilder, they’re quite happy to do it in fact, but they want to wait until next summer.
And that’s FINE.
Yes we’d rather see the fight now, of course we would. But the reality is that, outside of the Canelo-Golovkin rematch, this is the biggest fight that can be made in boxing today. It needs to be handled correctly.
Joshua-Wilder, needs the biggest venue, build-up and purses it can possibly acquire in order to do it justice as the true super-fight that it is.
However this does not mean it’s ok for us to wait several years for this match-up. If it gets delayed to 2020, 2019 or even the back end of 2018 without very good reason, then we should start kicking up a fuss.
If Wilder continues to call Joshua’s name and the Brit repeatedly swerves him, then fans and media alike should start to get on AJ’s back.
This hasn’t happened yet.
Right now, we’re in a situation where Anthony Joshua’s promoter wants one more fight for both men next spring, before putting together their mega-fight with a crowd of 90,000 people at Wembley Stadium in the summer.
You can’t be ducking someone if your plan is to fight them in seven months.
And let’s not forget, in Anthony Joshua’s 19th fight, he overcame long-reigning ruler of the division Wladimir Klitschko, despite being inexperienced at the time.
Charles Martin didn’t turn out to be up to much, but even that fight seemed a big jump in class for Joshua at the time he took it.
Not many fighters go straight from British level to world level and not many fighters jump straight from the likes of Eric Molina to the likes of Wladimir Klitschko.
So let’s stop claiming all this ‘ducking’ nonsense and afford Anthony Joshua a little bit more of the respect he deserves, eh?
Read more at Anthony Joshua ‘ducking’ Deontay Wilder? Don’t be stupid - talkSPORT Opinion
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Bigblackted4
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He’s actually a great mid boxer. Because he doesn’t use his jab as much he’s great mid range going to the body (a potential Wilder weakness) and throwing hooks and uppercuts from a distance. All Wilder has to really do his use his jab and feet but if Jousha pressures he could work the body and Slow Wildier down.Dillian Whyte & Andy Ruiz is ranked #3 & #4 by the WBC (behind Stiverne & Ortiz) but instead of having them fight for a mandatory position, they make #6 ranked Dominic Breazeale the mandatory for beating #12 ranked Eric Molina?
No head/upper body movement, his only defense is blocking with the high guard. He has no jab, and no effective offense at mid-to-long range to keep Wilder honest. Slow feet, can't cut the ring off, no gas tank...Wilder is gonna box circles around him and stop him mid-to-late rds.
If Joshua pressures, he's going to gas even faster imo
I swear, if Joshua slows down, Wilder's going to put him to sleep......period
The fight is a great matchup to me, because EITHER can KO the other. That's what make
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Bigblackted4
Superstar
It’s truly what the division has missed. Your right about Jousha slowing he can’t get tired like he did against Klitschko. He needs to slim down like 15 lbs to come in his best.If Joshua pressures, he's going to gas even faster imo
I swear, if Joshua slows down, Wilder's going to put him to sleep......period
The fight is a great matchup to me, because EITHER can KO the other. That's what make
I don't know why he insists to come in so heavy, but hopefully he's 260+ on fight night vs Wilder
MoroccanBoy
Madness
Wilder also pulls straight back from punches and leaves his chin hanging. Joshua will be the biggest most explosive fighter wilder would have faced.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
well UFC is a brand itself so their champions get more push than a top boxer usually
many of those followers follow the brand not the fighter himself in my opinion. I have no proof but I can absolutely see dudes just following UFC champions because they are UFC champions not really knowing anything else about them.
boxing works differently .
We hear many times how in MMA the best really fights the best (as I heard more and more rarely thou) and that there's only one champion and etc... and those are really things which makes it easier to casuals to buy into it however boxing can't work the same way because it's a lot older than MMA.
In MMA the hierarchy is clear so far at least on the top. UFC has the most prestige and power and it's considered the pinnacle of the sport and it's a promoter and belt organization at the same time like MMA orgs usually are. So far so good right? But MMA only exists for 20-30 years or so...
I'd bet it won't look the same a couple of decades later maybe even the next decade.
Whenever someone with enough money and connections will grow up as a legit rival for the UFC it will be possibly even worse for MMA fans cause while in boxing a belt organization and a promoter are not the same thing in MMA they are with exclusive contracts so the best fighters across the different organizations won't be able to face each other.
MMA has one UFC and one Dana White as the undisputed boss, boxing has multiple Dana Whites and UFCs with similar power to each other so this is why it's more chaotic for casual fans and this is why boxing hasn't got an easily recognizable and accessible brand for casuals such as UFC for MMA. but wait a few years and MMA probably will go down the same road as boxing if it even survives so much time in the light as boxing.
also MMA has less weight classes but I heard they already started to include new ones too, as it's getting older these things just gonna happen to a combat sport. More and more fans find out how unhealthy amounts of weight these guys cut, how dangerous it, more and more fighters gonna protest against the big steps between divisions and the natural next step is the emergence of new divisions.
So MMA's better transparency and UFC as a well recognized brand are all exist pretty much because of the sport's young age. It had no time to get so atomized as boxing, boxing didn't become like this from day one to day two either.
MMA also started to go down that route already it's only a matter of time
broner vs lipinets...why is this even being discussed? didnt broner lose a damn one sided decision to mikey?..lipinets is going to lose but let it be to an actual mandatory or somebody who is actually doing something at 140
Yep. Both have flaws that can be exposed.
Fight is ending in devastating KO fashion
So, it's not okay for Lipinets to get a career high payday and the most exposure in his career?
You'd rather see Lipinets vs Maurice Hooker?
Interesting
Jeff Horn vs. Gary Corcoran Secured By ESPN, December 13 - Boxing News while overhyped Lucas "The Brides Maid" Matthysse gotta sit around and hope someone throws him a life line because he aint ever been a Champ, wont ever be a Champ, and nobody cares about him ever since Danny Garcia tossed his orbital bone into the bushes and Postol made him quit:abyoumad:
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ChocolateGiddyUp
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Id like to see Prograis fukk up Postol, Then Imam, then get AB 
Id like to see Prograis fukk up Postol, Then Imam, then get AB
Prograis just might be that dude at 140....he has my vote, out of all the young fighters at 140, to potentially be "next"
He seems to be nice with the hands and the power is
